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[otterrivers]

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.
3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.
4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?
5) Do you decide, intend, choose, control events in Life? Do you make anything happen? Give examples from your experience.
6) Anything to add?

[Choki]

I’d love to hear more about the camping trip, but anyway….to pretend, to play the game…

I will pretend as if I’ve never seen these questions before or the answers I might have given in a previous life ; )

1. There is no separate ‘I’ that can be found. The only time that exists is now, so it can’t have ever existed, apart from in an imagined past.

2. The illusion of a separate self only exists in time, which is created to perpetuate the illusion, to stop me from really seeing and being real. It exists to keep us small, ‘safe’, as if in control – but unable to accept that there is nothing to be in control of. It is only a thought, and thoughts aren’t reality.

3. To see this feels very liberating, expansive, freeing. The difference since before starting the dialogue was the memory of feeling trapped, constricted, limited – and now, there are no limitations.

4. The bit that pushed me over and made me look – well, I guess looking just happened, hard to pin it down and say it was any one thing, maybe more of a gradual unfolding or a thinning of the veils…

5. There is no ‘me’ to choose. Events just happen. Feelings still exist, reactions still exist, some are more pleasant than others, but it is all just happening. It feels like there is more choice, more freedom, to do one thing or another, but the results of the choices aren’t within my control. For example, there is a memory of choosing to go for a cycle ride the other evening, getting to the beach in time to see the sunset, and racing back before it got dark as I didn’t have lights on my bike – it was a decision whether or not to go for the cycle ride, and it seems there were lots of choices but it could have only been as it was, it couldn’t have been any other way. As it is in the past, the past was as it was, so how could it have been different? My experience is of the memory, it is not happening now, the only real experience is of sitting here and typing.

6. Feeling less daunted by the questions now… they’re not so scary any more.

[otterrivers]

ok choki. we have to start all over now. bad answers.

[otterrivers]

just playing a little my friend. I didn't want to tell you but I was having some other guides take a good look at our conversation to make sure we didn't miss anything. that's why I haven't replied for a couple days.
i'm happy to confirm that you are welcomed through "the gate". of course you see it's just a metaphor. there is no gate. and what a nothing it is huh? just this!
No fireworks, no celebrations. Just a simple look at what's true. It couldn't be any more ordinary, right?

life goes on. even feelings of disappointment or doubt may still show up but are they belonging to anyone or just feelings happening with no real meaning? I think you get it.

of course fireworks may happen sometimes but that's not the awakening, that's just fireworks. (funny to say that as we just had our big july 4th fireworks all over America yesterday).

i'll be sending you some info when I get some more time on the internet. a little confirmation present. ;)

of course we can still talk any time, but we're done with this conversation which was for the sole purpose of making sure you have seen through the illusion of self. i'll talk to you soon choki. :)

[Choki]

Well, I did wonder.... had a feeling the other guides were carefully picking over all my answers - and then to say 'bad answers, you'll have to start again!' - which sounds very familiar... and I can see that there are old habit patterns that get repeated, old beliefs that create 'my world', an illusion of what is. And then there's freedom......

Thank you for being there.

[otterrivers]

perfect. :)

[otterrivers]

here you go. :) Click it.

http://liberationunleashed.com/nation/v ... ?f=6&t=696