Bangaroo, are you ready?

[Ilona]

are you light? are you soul? are you atma? what are you?

[bangaroo]

namaste dear Ilona,

really appreciate your help so far.

am feeling a great need to be quiet and retreat into solitude.
i'm off facebook and everything. just need to rest and take a break.

in case i'm not back, phir milenge in some other cosmos,

much much love, your friend Zero

[Ilona]

My great friend zero. Looking forward to hear your report after the going deeper into silence.

Much love.

[bangaroo]

namaste dear Ilona,

hope you are fully recovered :)

unable to be 'silent' for very long i'm afraid lol lol

i think i've cracked the mystery of life Ilona,
but putting it into words is tough ;) wish i
could be more humble, but what to do i'm soooo gooood ;)

i think i'm a bit dazed right now, so what to do ??

phir milenge Ilona, your good friend Zero

[Ilona]

Oh wow. So let's see, start putting it all in words. How is it all happening? Was there ever a separate entity me running the show? How is the illusion created?

Much love.

[bangaroo]

namaste dear Ilona,

hope you are 100% fine :)

its all happening
on its own.
we dont have a
choice but to
go along with life

illusion is created
by the body and
thoughts. i would
prefer to call it
a dream. i mean
a toothache or a
job loss can be
too painful to
be dismissed as
an illusion. a dream
explains it better.
as long as we are
in the dream it
all is real for us.
that huge bear
chasing us is
real in the dream.
the trick it to
wake up. wake up
from the waking dream !!
that sounds pretty funky
no ? dont get impressed
i just read it somewhere,
but it expresses well
what i'm trying to say :)

breathe well, drink lots of water Ilona, phir milenge, your great friend Zero

[Ilona]

its all happening
on its own.
we dont have a
choice but to
go along with life

First thing is right- yes it's all happening on its own.
Second isn't. There is no we to go along with life. There is only life expressing as us. Can you see this subtle difference? Life is not happening to us, but as.

It's not a dream that you are stuck in. No.
There is this illusion that mind created about the thinker/ doer and it's locked in place until its questioned. You are not seeing it yet, there is still you in there that thinks its a dream. It does not matter how you call it- dream, illusion, confusion, delusion, whatever, unless you see through it, no theory is gonna fix your life.

If you can today, get outside into nature, park, sit for a while watching it all move, wiggle, watch it and see if your body is any way outside this picture or is it part of the totality that is manifesting as everything.

Report back when ready.

Much love.

[bangaroo]

namste dear Ilona,

not been able to go to nature
or park yet. but will go soon.
its an amazing coincidence
but a couple of days ago
my mother told me to do
the same thing in a different
context, just to relax that is :)

ok i think i got your point.
life is expressing THROUGH
us and is not us. hmm..
oh thanks for that Ilona :)

its like i'm just a brush
stroke in someone's painting
and i've been thinking that
i'm this hot shot red splat !!!!!!!!!!!!
cooooooooooooooooool :)))))))))

you stay cool, phir milenge Ilona, your friend, Zero

[Ilona]

Hahaha! No you did not get my point! Life is not expressing through us, life is all there is. Us is just an image in the mind, a story that mind keeps telling itself on automatic.

Ok, time to go the nature. Speak to you after :)

[bangaroo]

namaste Ilona,

hope you are fine :)

i did go to the park
last evening, but
couldnt focus on
the job. the babes
were too distracting
and i ended up at a
food stall eating
'paani puri' which is
a yummy indian snack ;)

any tips on how to
stay focussed on the One
without appearing a snob ??
i mean the babes get offended
if i dont give them an admiring
look. man, talk about obstacles
on the way to freedom !!!!!

will try again this evening :)

take a mental break once every 40 minutes, your friend forever, Zero

[Ilona]

ok, try again. find a place where you can just sit on your own and observe. by the way, nature is everywhere, including babies and your reaction to them. all is just happening.

[bangaroo]

namaste Ilona

hope you are fine :)

i know everything
is 'just happening'
my blood circulates
by itself, food digests
by itself, the sun
rises by itself, breathing
happens by itself

babes and babies are
both nature and i prefer babes ;)
and my reaction to Babes hmmm..

ok :)

see Ilona, i've been with a Perfect Master
for almost 17 years. so i know what you
are saying. i did observe things in
a different setting. btw i do this all the
time. i suspect that we are having
'word' problems. its tough translating
experience into words. life is happening
through us not as us is perhaps what
you are trying to say. which i am aware of.

i think i'm interested in step 2 and you
are perhaps pointing me at step 1 :)

here is a thought for YOU to
ponder over : WHAT THE CHRYSALIS
CALLS THE END OF THE JOURNEY
(FOR EXAMPLE - ENLIGHTENMENT)
THE MASTER CALLS A BUTTERFLY (just a step in the forward journey)

cheers, your awesome friend, Zero

[Ilona]

Hmmm, you are looking for step 2? This is no 20 step program..
You are saying that you saw, that there is nothing behind word I. And this conversation was for entertainment purposes only? Or are you just trying to avoid going deeper?

It might be just words, through, as..let's see, if you look at a flower, how would you describe it- life is expressing itself as flower or through flower?

If you did see step one, as you say, convince me. :) give me an account how, when, what happened. You know, tell the story. I'm listening.

Much love.

[bangaroo]

namaste Ilona,

hope you are fine :)

its a holiday in india today
as it is our republic day (jan 26)

no this conversation is not for
entertainment. i really was
struggling for many years
with the 'who am i' inquiry,
and was immediately attracted
to your direct pointing method.:)

i thought i 'saw' it during our talk,
but you probably thought i was joking.
while talking to you somewhere on this
thread i typed "i am just a brush stroke
on the canvas of life, who thinks its a
hot shot red splat" - that was when i 'saw',
thats when clarity hit me.thats all !!
there were no angels playing harps,
or the gods showering flower petals
on me or even you acknowledging. i was
just feeling cool. that was it for me.

flower. oh flower. lovely flower is
god smiling through a flower :))))
or as a flower what does it matter ??

blue skies, white clouds
wind blowing in green trees,
bird high up in the sky,
pink flower winking at me,
ooops me ?? what me ??

go window shopping Ilona, phir milenge, much love from your genius friend Zero :)

[Ilona]

Great! I was just testing you. :)
Here are few more questions, to clarify that you have crossed the line with both legs :)

Please answer in full when ready :


1) Is there a you, at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form?

2) Explain in detail what the self is and how it works.

3) How does it feel to be liberated?

4) how would you describe it to somebody who has never heard about no you. 



Have a great day!
Much love.