The story so far...

[Matt]

Hello friend, just checking to see that the process is continuing.
Happy new year

[Joachim]

It is. Cya in 2012.









And thanks for checking. :-)

[Joachim]

Happy New Year!

In my view, "sensations" and "thoughts" are two descriptions of raw, impersonal, non-locatable data.
So perhaps impersonal sensations, thoughts, descriptions, stories, and even the image of the fictional Joachim character, can all continue without a real person behind the scenes. Thoughts continue, without a thinker. What do you say?

I agree. Life goes on unmolested when the fictional character ceases to exist. And it was unmolested the whole time because the fictional character never had any chance of influence. It just thought it had because of its identification with thoughts.

One guy on our Facebook site said there's sort of a mathematical formula: add to life the belief in an individual self, and everything is subtracted and depleted. Subtract from 'life' the superimposed belief in the 'individual', and everything is added—wholeness and freedom, etc. So who knows, living free with a cozy story could actually be better than ever.

There was a fear that after the falling away of the character the story would collapse too because there wouldn't be a "driving force" behind it. The fear was that the whole construct of "my life" would be blown to smithereens. And that would really suck, because I love "my life" (Question arises: Then why are you doing this? Answer: Don't know, it's just life playing itself out.)

Who is concerned with protecting a pleasant story (that is happening to nobody)?! :-))
Do you find someone who is afraid to drop a story?
Isn't the idea that "you" have to "drop" or protect a story, just another organic thought appearing out of nowhere?
Rather, by nature, the story is already seen through; there is just life living, impersonally seeing itself. Look and see if this is true or not.
If fear-sensations or fear-thoughts arise, they arise until it subsides. It's completely natural, like the contractions of an animal in labor, or the condensation and vaporization of mist in the air. And fear is already seen through, from the very start. Look, and see if this is true or not.

True. Fear is just an emotion. It has no substance and no consequences. Only if it's identified with, it can make one's life experience miserable.

Who would drop a story?
Who would "get there"?
Can a dividing line between 'non-liberated' and 'liberated' be found anywhere?
What's the truth?
Inquire, look, go for it, simmer for a while if you want, and give us a rant!
Looking forward,
M

There is no story to be dropped. There is no one to drop a story. There is no one to get anywhere. "Liberated" is the state of mind that is free from the idea of liberation.

The truth is life, the universe and everything in the now, meaningless, pointless.
All else is shadows and dust, equally meaningless and pointless.

/J

[Matt]

Thank you J.,
Wonderful words.
And yes, fear is quite normal, and there are lots of people who have passed through the 'Gate' who can listen and discuss those issues if you're interested. I'll invite you to the 'aftercare' Facebook site if you want.
For now, let's confirm that there are no doubts:
1) Do you exist in any sense of the word?
2) How does it feel to be liberated? :-)
Loving respect,
Matt

[Joachim]

Thank you, Matt.
I'd be grateful for your invitation. Please send it to facebook@crashmania.de.
To answer your questions:
1) There's no me in existence. There's an illusion of a me. It has no substance and no meaning.
2) I feel grateful that I can now understand that all my previous fears and doubts were gratuitous. All is well.

Matt, I thank you from the bottom of my heart.

/J

[Matt]

Awesome! Welcome. This is freedom.

[Matt]

Thanks, Joachim, it's been a pleasure!
Hope to see you on the "Unleashed" aftercare site: http://www.facebook.com/groups/200033776715393/
We're turning your name blue here. You're welcome to go to Unleashed and ask how to help guide others. We need people to help liberate, and you're very clear.
Best,
Matt Openspace