I Need Guidance

[vinceschubert]

So is it other thoughts, that make thoughts about a 'self', more special than those others ?

[Noobstorm]

Yes, other thoughts (believed to be thought by the self) make some thoughts seem they are coming from the self.

[vinceschubert]

other thoughts (believed to be thought by the self) make some thoughts seem they are coming from the self.

..and why are those thoughts credible ?

[Noobstorm]

..and why are those thoughts credible ?

Because they affect reality.

[vinceschubert]

Because they affect reality.

Aren't we going in circles here. Even thoughts of Santa affected reality. All thoughts have a physical expression. Called emotion, even though some is subliminal.

[Noobstorm]

Aren't we going in circles here. Even thoughts of Santa affected reality.

Seeing the self does not exist is not as simple as seeing that Santa does not exist.

I feel it the self will always (be believed to) precede experience(namely control & thoughts). I don't think this inquiry will work for me.

[vinceschubert]

Seeing the self does not exist is not as simple as seeing that Santa does not exist.

It is for some.

I don't think this inquiry will work for me.

Perhaps another guide might be better able to point you to a better portal.
Would you like me to ask ?

[Noobstorm]

Perhaps another guide might be better able to point you to a better portal.
Would you like me to ask ?

Yes, I will appreciate that :)

Thank you trying to help me.

[vinceschubert]

Ali, Lex is currently reading the thread and is interested in guiding you.
He will be here soon.

love

vince

[lex]

Hi Ali, I'm Lex and I take over from Vince.

I like to know a few things about your personality, and if you want to know some things about me, feel free to ask.
I like to know from you:
1. What is your age? Mine is 59.
2. What is your nationality and original language. Mine is dutch.
3. What religion/political conviction you were raised with? I was raised with a mixture of judaism and atheism.
4. How much time do you spend outside in nature or doing sports?

These questions are actually not necessary for the process, so if you don't want to answer any, we can also cut straight to the chase.

I strongly recommend to forget all what was in this thread before (if you can) and also of anything you read or heard about spiritual awakening or enlightenment. Let's start fresh.

[Noobstorm]

1. What is your age?

17.

2. What is your nationality and original language.

I was born in America and my original language is English.

3. What religion/political conviction you were raised with?

Christianity(primarily). Religious ideas have never sunk into me, so I have become an athiest.

4. How much time do you spend outside in nature or doing sports?

Not much, many consider me a computer geek.

I strongly recommend to forget all what was in this thread before (if you can) and also of anything you read or heard about spiritual awakening or enlightenment. Let's start fresh.

Sounds good.

[lex]

When I was your age, I was mostly interested in girls and partying, are you sure that liberation is what you want? What motivates you? Is there something you lack in your life that you think liberation will solve?

[Noobstorm]

When I was your age, I was mostly interested in girls and partying,

I'm not that type of person, rather introverted/antisocial.

[quote="lex"are you sure that liberation is what you want? What motivates you? Is there something you lack in your life that you think liberation will solve?[/quote]
Yes. I want my life to be more lively, every day is just the same things I don't care about.

[lex]

You did not answer the questions:

What motivates you to search for liberation?
Are you sure that liberation is what you want?

[Noobstorm]

What motivates you to search for liberation?

There is not much else to do, and I am dissatisfied with life.

Are you sure that liberation is what you want?

Yes.