good place

[daisyrain]

(written before seeing your recent answer)

what about an observer separate from what is observed?

a feeling comes when reading this,
thought chatter begins and is felt as well,

specifically that "separate from the observed" thing can't be found.
and an observer itself?



oh come on, why am I not seeing it?
come OOON.

(what about that feels true?)

the sensation deepens / changes


i guess i woun't ever really get away from this with an answer anyway.

to say I can't find an observer is a little bit a lie
to say I can find one is a little bit a lie.
to say things are felt feels true enough.

[daisyrain]

oh, surprisingly that precisely was what you asked 😄

[graceabounds]

oh come on, why am I not seeing it?

In that very question is the lie of I.
And the assumption that there is something to see.

No answer. No one to answer.

Has the ownership story become less convincing?

[daisyrain]

Has the ownership story become less convincing?

I suppose "less convicing" is a way to describe this.
there are gaps of "disorientation" that are not met with reactivity immediately.

It's a bit like "i can't bring back something to write from these gaps"

[graceabounds]

I appreciate that this gap can just be.

Reactivity meaning doubt? Thought?

The gap in which there is no doubt, no thought is direct experience, no?
Everything else is NOT.

[daisyrain]

Guess right now ownership is. Not sure what statement to make about it, but right now it’s seen to be valid that everything would be as it is, „like that“, without ownership involved.


Reactivity at the moment would be clinging to stories about self loathing.

And then stories about understanding.

Stories about being fed up.

Stories about who I am.

Stories about doing looking wrong (this one’s interesting)