To see

[Anastacia42]

Yes, we have no control over any of it: thoughts, hand, nothing.

How does it FEEL to see this?

Loving,

[Moon88]

How does it FEEL to see this?

Like a burden has lifted.

[Anastacia42]

Yes! It has.

Stay with that feeling. Has anything else changed? Remember, we're locking for a shift in perception.

Let's bring it all together.

Actual/Direct Experience - Apple

Have a look at an apple (or any fruit you like.) If you have a ‘real’ apple, you can use it for this exercise. Google for a picture of an apple.



When looking at an apple, there's color; a thought saying ‘apple’; and maybe a thought saying, "I'm looking at an apple."

What is known for sure? Color is known and thoughts are known.

What about the content of thoughts, what they describe?

Actual experience does not refer to thoughts ABOUT something…because that is only just more thought.

Actual experience is sound, thought, color, smell, taste, sensation and the fact of thought arising, but not its content.

Is there really an ‘apple’ here, or only color and a thought ABOUT ‘apple’?

Can ‘apple’ be found in actual experience?

While these thoughts are known, what they talk ABOUT can't be found in actual experience.

This is what is meant by "looking in actual experience." What you know for sure, and, is always here.

Taste labeled ‘apple’ is known
Color labeled ‘apple’ is known
Sensation labeled ‘apple’ is known (when apple is touched)
Smell labeled ‘apple’ is known
Thought about/of an ‘apple’ is known

However, is an apple actually known?

Have fun and let me know what you find out.

Loving,

[Moon88]

Has anything else changed?

At times, I feel like I have no head.


Actual/Direct Experience - Apple

What about the content of thoughts, what they describe?

There is no thought.

Is there really an ‘apple’ here, or only color and a thought ABOUT ‘apple’?

Can ‘apple’ be found in actual experience?

Only color and touch sensation. No apple can be found. Only certain sense experiences.

However, is an apple actually known?

Have fun and let me know what you find out.

No apple can be proved to exist. Only certain sense experiences which are labeled as "apple".

[Anastacia42]

Good. I suspect there are some thoughts, but good.

No head? Great. You'll enjoy this one.


Headless Way

Have a look around you. You can see colous of the room, of your 'feet’, of your ‘knees’, of your ‘chest’ and perhaps of your 'hands'.

Now point a finger towards the place where others see your head and face.

What do you see? Do you see your face? Do you see your head?

Do you see anything at all there - any colors, shapes, or any movement?

Looking into the place where others see your face, do you see colors or shapes there?

What do you find?

Loving,

[Moon88]

Headless Way

Have a look around you. You can see colous of the room, of your 'feet’, of your ‘knees’, of your ‘chest’ and perhaps of your 'hands'.

Now point a finger towards the place where others see your head and face.

What do you see? Do you see your face? Do you see your head?

I don't see my face. I don't see my head. I see a blurry outline of nose + the colors of the view in front.

Do you see anything at all there - any colors, shapes, or any movement?

colors of the view in front.

Looking into the place where others see your face, do you see colors or shapes there?

Colors/shapes of the view in front.

What do you find?

I can't find my face/head.

[Anastacia42]

These are meditations.

How does it FEEL to see this?

Loving,

[Moon88]

These are meditations.

How does it FEEL to see this?

Different. Less of a "body". More of an impersonal "seer".

[Moon88]

Hi Stacy,

Waiting for your reply.

Thanks,
Pri

[Anastacia42]

Thanks. The site was down & then I stopped getting email notifications.

Different. Less of a "body". More of an impersonal "seer".

Okay, but those are thoughts.

We want things of body can feel. Even if it feels like less one.

Examples include heavy or light, Hot or cold. Contracted or expansive.

Things like that. Sensations.

Loving

[Moon88]

The body feels the same.

[Anastacia42]

The body feels the same.

You were closer the first time with the labels.

Different. Less of a "body". More of an impersonal "seer".

Keep paying attention to body Sensations, particularly in the gut or an overall Sensation & let's move on.

This would be a good time to review your thread. Please read back over everything we've done so far.

There are more pointers and I will share more but you have everything needed. Just LOOK.

https://youtu.be/wyNwhK2Ur1c?si=TZwuFEst-7Hsadpu

Loving,

[Moon88]

Hi Stacy,

I am reviewing our thread. I can't seem to get closer to the "shift in perception" than feeling headless.

Thanks,
Pri

[Moon88]

Correction: feeling headless at times.

[Anastacia42]

Headless is good.

Also. you wrote:

Like a burden has lifted.

That could be your shift.

What were you expecting? ?



Look back to your replies on April 5th. Is any of that beginning?

Watch these, please:

https://youtu.be/vJQcD588g2w

and

https://youtu.be/PUDzrCLlrj4

This is just a beginning.

Loving