Good.
How does it FEEl to see this?
We are looking for a shift in perception. You can read Gateless Gatecrashers for examples.
Loving,
Mind that loves to philosophize and grab on to concepts and experiences
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~ Stacy
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
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"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
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I did notice a subtle shift in perception.
Oh yes I did read the whole book, some great examples there, thank you.
It feels peaceful, flat, a bit confusion, lingering sense of "something is missing". Might just need to feel more in to this, I will report back in a few days.How does it FEEl to see this?
Oh yes I did read the whole book, some great examples there, thank you.
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Good.
Keep going back to ButtChair. These are meditations to be practiced over and over until you have a clear shift perception.
Rrmember. this is the only pointer Ilona gave me when I was guided here. i practiced this for about 3 months. I call it:
ButtChair
Please LOOK for any place where your butt ends & the chair begins.
Is there any clear dividing line between them? Or only the Sensation with no clear division?
It is simple direct & nonverbal. Just LOOK.
Then write what is true.
Loving,
Keep going back to ButtChair. These are meditations to be practiced over and over until you have a clear shift perception.
Rrmember. this is the only pointer Ilona gave me when I was guided here. i practiced this for about 3 months. I call it:
ButtChair
Please LOOK for any place where your butt ends & the chair begins.
Is there any clear dividing line between them? Or only the Sensation with no clear division?
It is simple direct & nonverbal. Just LOOK.
Then write what is true.
Loving,
~ Stacy
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
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Hi Stacy. I am sitting, sitting and sitting these days.
Regarding the butt chair.
Hope its okay that I ask a question about this. I've noticed that I have somewhat access to pure sensations now, and when I sit I just notice sensations without thinking about it. But as soon as I impose the question "Is there a line?", I get in my head about it, and it feels impossible to not imagine where the body ends and chair begins. Kind of like saying think of a pink elephant, and not imagine an elephant. Only the belief in the body is stronger than in the elephant, if that makes sense.
Hope this was clear. So I am wondering if you think I should still keep with this pointer, or maybe focus on something else?
With love,
Anna
Regarding the butt chair.
The clear dividing line is only imagined. Its only sensations.Is there any clear dividing line between them? Or only the Sensation with no clear division?
Hope its okay that I ask a question about this. I've noticed that I have somewhat access to pure sensations now, and when I sit I just notice sensations without thinking about it. But as soon as I impose the question "Is there a line?", I get in my head about it, and it feels impossible to not imagine where the body ends and chair begins. Kind of like saying think of a pink elephant, and not imagine an elephant. Only the belief in the body is stronger than in the elephant, if that makes sense.
Hope this was clear. So I am wondering if you think I should still keep with this pointer, or maybe focus on something else?
With love,
Anna
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Keep looking. There is only one sensation.
"Skin" is a label, a story. like "apple." And "self."
Loving
"Skin" is a label, a story. like "apple." And "self."
Loving
~ Stacy
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Are you ghosting or still there?
Loving,
Loving,
~ Stacy
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
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Hi Stacy. Thanks for checking in. I dropped the ball this time, apologies. Would love to continue.
Still looking daily, still very commited to this process, but feel like I'm not "getting it". Feels difficult to feel sensations without labelling where in the body its felt. Feel I conceptually understand that there is no body, but it feels like a clear and solid line between the skin and the air.
How are you?
I am currently visiting a friend in "your" part of the world, in Florida. Lovely here.
With love,
Anna
I'm still here. Still investigating.Are you ghosting or still there?
Still looking daily, still very commited to this process, but feel like I'm not "getting it". Feels difficult to feel sensations without labelling where in the body its felt. Feel I conceptually understand that there is no body, but it feels like a clear and solid line between the skin and the air.
How are you?
I am currently visiting a friend in "your" part of the world, in Florida. Lovely here.
With love,
Anna
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Hi Anna
I've been to Florida a couple of times. Just like Texas, it's lovely until it gets too hot.
Give these a try. Be sure to listen to the Introduction .
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ksba3zhi9uuz ... hsk1a?dl=0
Loving
I've been to Florida a couple of times. Just like Texas, it's lovely until it gets too hot.
Give these a try. Be sure to listen to the Introduction .
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ksba3zhi9uuz ... hsk1a?dl=0
Loving
~ Stacy
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
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"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
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Right, heard it gets quote hot in summer.
Awesome. Thanks for sharing these, Stacy. I already listened to the introduction and the first one, really enjoyed it. Feels exactly what I needed, looking forward to the rest. Will keep you updated.
Loving,
Anna
Awesome. Thanks for sharing these, Stacy. I already listened to the introduction and the first one, really enjoyed it. Feels exactly what I needed, looking forward to the rest. Will keep you updated.
Loving,
Anna
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Great. Keep me posted.
Write how it FEELS to see. Body Sensations.
Loving
Write how it FEELS to see. Body Sensations.
Loving
~ Stacy
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
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Hi Sracy. I listened to the 5th mediation about releasing today. I feel some pressure and movement in the chest, density in the head area, some tingling in head area, some dense points in the chest.
With love,
Anna
With love,
Anna
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Hi Stacy. I listened to the 5th mediation today about recieving.
With love, Anna
I feel some pressure and movement in chest area. Some density and tingeling in the head. Some dense points in the chest.Write how it FEELS to see. Body Sensations.
With love, Anna
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Okay. Remember this?
Lies are usually felt in the heart or solar plexus as a contraction that we may label as tight, heavy or tense.
In contrast, truth is usually expansive. We may call it loose, light or relaxed.
So. "pressure & density."
Can you identify the lie?
Loving
Lies are usually felt in the heart or solar plexus as a contraction that we may label as tight, heavy or tense.
In contrast, truth is usually expansive. We may call it loose, light or relaxed.
So. "pressure & density."
Can you identify the lie?
Loving
~ Stacy
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
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Hi.
There is sometimes and openness/vastness too. But then the pressure points in the body is still there, within the vastness, if that makes sense.
With love,
Anna
Hmm. I can't seem to identify the lie. It doesn't seem to come with any particular stories, but thats how the sensations feels like.Can you identify the lie?
There is sometimes and openness/vastness too. But then the pressure points in the body is still there, within the vastness, if that makes sense.
With love,
Anna
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Hi Anna
The heavy or tight feeling is must likely due to the lie of a "self." Continue to be aware of these.
"Self" is only that Sensation plus a label & a lie story.
Here is how to distinguish truth from lies.
We often lie every day & don't realize it.
For example, the grocery clerk asks, "How are you?" You reply, "I'm fine." While, yes. there is a sense in which we are always fine, even in the middle of suffering, at that moment, you were grieving the death of your dog, you had a slight sore throat & you had a headache, but you didn't feel like sharing all of that with the grocery clerk, so you lied, "I'm fine."
Also, it matters none at all how "distant" the remembered lie is. Besides the fact that time itself is fictional, a kind if lie, as we recall the lie it becomes present in this moment, as if it were happening now. This brings the body Sensation that accompanies lying.
Lies can be intentional or unintentional, conscious or unconscious, even so automatic that we ourselves are fooled.
The story of a separate "self" is a lie.
This is the lie you came here to see through. Therefore, it is helpful to notice the body Sensation of lying as one of the tools for finding the truth of no self.
You want to be in touch with body Sensations & able to clearly express them in words. This will help.
Lies are usually felt in the heart or solar plexus as a contraction that we may label as tight, heavy or tense.
In contrast, truth is usually expansive. We may call it loose, light or relaxed.
First, can you remember a time when you lied to someone you loved?
Here we count anything, lies we think of as "big" or "small" that "matter" or don't "matter."
How are you? I'm fine. No, your knee hurts, but you don't feel like discussing it with the grocery clerk.
It's a lie. A seemingly "bigger" one will work better for this exercise.
Find the lie. I don't need the whole story, just a few key words to refer to it.
Then scan your body for any Sensation (DE or Direct Experience), particularly in the gut or maybe the heart. Check very closely.
What is found?
If you think the memory you used wasn't clear enough, find another one or lie to yourself right now, make something up.
1 + 1 = 14 is a lie.
I love eating worms is (probably) a lie.
Or call up a video of a lying politician & notice what Sensations arise as you listen.
I will give you a clue: it is not that peaceful Sensation you felt before when you omitted "I." (refers to an exercise I gave before this one)
Please report back with what body Sensations (not interpretations) you feel. Bodies can feel hot or cold, heavy or light, contraction or expansion, etc.
"Peaceful" is an interpretation of a body Sensation, not the Sensation itself, for example.
Do you see that?
Loving,
That's the truth feeling. That's what you want to focus on.openness/vastness
The heavy or tight feeling is must likely due to the lie of a "self." Continue to be aware of these.
"Self" is only that Sensation plus a label & a lie story.
Here is how to distinguish truth from lies.
We often lie every day & don't realize it.
For example, the grocery clerk asks, "How are you?" You reply, "I'm fine." While, yes. there is a sense in which we are always fine, even in the middle of suffering, at that moment, you were grieving the death of your dog, you had a slight sore throat & you had a headache, but you didn't feel like sharing all of that with the grocery clerk, so you lied, "I'm fine."
Also, it matters none at all how "distant" the remembered lie is. Besides the fact that time itself is fictional, a kind if lie, as we recall the lie it becomes present in this moment, as if it were happening now. This brings the body Sensation that accompanies lying.
Lies can be intentional or unintentional, conscious or unconscious, even so automatic that we ourselves are fooled.
The story of a separate "self" is a lie.
This is the lie you came here to see through. Therefore, it is helpful to notice the body Sensation of lying as one of the tools for finding the truth of no self.
You want to be in touch with body Sensations & able to clearly express them in words. This will help.
Lies are usually felt in the heart or solar plexus as a contraction that we may label as tight, heavy or tense.
In contrast, truth is usually expansive. We may call it loose, light or relaxed.
First, can you remember a time when you lied to someone you loved?
Here we count anything, lies we think of as "big" or "small" that "matter" or don't "matter."
How are you? I'm fine. No, your knee hurts, but you don't feel like discussing it with the grocery clerk.
It's a lie. A seemingly "bigger" one will work better for this exercise.
Find the lie. I don't need the whole story, just a few key words to refer to it.
Then scan your body for any Sensation (DE or Direct Experience), particularly in the gut or maybe the heart. Check very closely.
What is found?
If you think the memory you used wasn't clear enough, find another one or lie to yourself right now, make something up.
1 + 1 = 14 is a lie.
I love eating worms is (probably) a lie.
Or call up a video of a lying politician & notice what Sensations arise as you listen.
I will give you a clue: it is not that peaceful Sensation you felt before when you omitted "I." (refers to an exercise I gave before this one)
Please report back with what body Sensations (not interpretations) you feel. Bodies can feel hot or cold, heavy or light, contraction or expansion, etc.
"Peaceful" is an interpretation of a body Sensation, not the Sensation itself, for example.
Do you see that?
Loving,
~ Stacy
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
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