Seeking the end of seeking

[Edward60]

Noting the experience of digestion
Noting eyes blinking, feeling slightly dry

Should read:

Noticing the experience of digestion
Noticing eyes blinking, feeling slightly dry

[Anastacia42]

Please

One Question

One answer.

Please reformat this.

This is important for 2 reasons. First, I read these on my phone at makes it much easier for me. Second, at the end when you answer some questions that other guides will read it will make it easier for them, too.

and please answer #1. with one of the given choices.

Thank you

[Edward60]

At the end of the twenty minutes compare the two ways in which the experience was labelled and answer the following four questions:

1. Is one truer than the other, and If so, which one?
Answer: Direct experience is truer.

2. What is here without labels?
Answer: Just this direct experience.

3. Do labels affect the experience or just describe it?
Answer: Labels increase increase stress and diminish clarity.

4. Did you notice any differences in the body?
Answer: Body tension is less persistent (gone) without labels (self-referencing).

[Anastacia42]

Okay, now please reformat with one question in Quote and the answer underneath. You did this before.

[Anastacia42]

1. Is one truer than the other, and If so, which one?

Answer: Direct experience is truer.


You do the others. This is an example.

[Edward60]

1. Is one truer than the other, and If so, which one?

Answer: Direct experience is truer.

2. What is here without labels?

Answer: Just this direct experience.

3. Do labels affect the experience or just describe it?

Answer: Labels increase increase stress and diminish clarity.

4. Did you notice any differences in the body?

Answer: Body tension is less persistent (gone) without labels (self-referencing).

[Anastacia42]

Thank you. That really helps.

Here is how to distinguish truth from lies.

We often lie every day & don't realize it.

For example, the grocery clerk asks, "How are you?" You reply, "I'm fine." While, yes. there is a sense in which we are always fine, even in the middle of suffering, at that moment, you were grieving the death of your dog, you had a slight sore throat & you had a headache, but you didn't feel like sharing all of that with the grocery clerk, so you lied, "I'm fine."

Also, it matters none at all how "distant" the remembered lie is. Besides the fact that time itself is fictional, a kind if lie, as we recall the lie it becomes present in this moment, as if it were happening now. This brings the body Sensation that accompanies lying.

Lies can be intentional or unintentional, conscious or unconscious, even so automatic that we ourselves are fooled.

The story of a separate "self" is a lie.

This is the lie you came here to see through. Therefore, it is helpful to notice the body Sensation of lying as one of the tools for finding the truth of no self.

You want to be in touch with body Sensations & able to clearly express them in words. This will help.

Lies are usually felt in the heart or solar plexus as a contraction that we may label as tight, heavy or tense.

In contrast, truth is usually expansive. We may call it loose, light or relaxed.

First, can you remember a time when you lied to someone you loved?

Here we count anything, lies we think of as "big" or "small" that "matter" or don't "matter."

How are you? I'm fine. No, your knee hurts, but you don't feel like discussing it with the grocery clerk.

It's a lie. A seemingly "bigger" one will work better for this exercise.

Find the lie. I don't need the whole story, just a few key words to refer to it.

Then scan your body for any Sensation (DE or Direct Experience), particularly in the gut or maybe the heart. Check very closely.

What is found?

If you think the memory you used wasn't clear enough, find another one or lie to yourself right now, make something up.

1 + 1 = 14 is a lie.

I love eating worms is (probably) a lie.

Or call up a video of a lying politician & notice what Sensations arise as you listen.

I will give you a clue: it is not that peaceful Sensation you felt before when you omitted "I." (refers to an exercise I gave before this one)

Please report back with what body Sensations (not interpretations) you feel. Bodies can feel hot or cold, heavy or light, contraction or expansion, etc.

"Peaceful" is an interpretation of a body Sensation, not the Sensation itself, for example.

Do you see that?

Loving,

[Edward60]

My pleasure, sorry for the misunderstanding.
Thank you for all your help.
I'll start reading the next section.
: )

[Anastacia42]

That's okay. We all misread things - especially online.

Much love,

[Edward60]

Question:
Find the lie. I don't need the whole story, just a few key words to refer to it. Then scan your body for any Sensation (DE or Direct Experience), particularly in the gut or maybe the heart. Check very closely. What is found?

1. Lie: “I am doing well.” Sensation: Nausea. Tight.
2. Lie: “I slept well.” Sensation: Heavy.
3. Lie: “Looking forward to event.” Sensation: Contraction.
4. Lie: “Watching lying” Sensation: Heat, tension (face).
5. Lie: “How are you?” Sensation: Tension (chest, face).
6. Lie: “I enjoying coaching” Sensation: Sinking (stomach).

[Anastacia42]

Good.

When you see there is no self, you may feel the light, expansive Sensation of truth. Watch for that. We are looking for a shift in perception. Have you read Gateless Gatecrashers?

Here is another bit.

Label-Reality Correlation

There is a belief that labels have a one-to-one correspondence with ‘reality’. But there isn’t. Just like it is a generally accepted belief that labels like ‘good’ and ‘bad’ are inherent characteristics of ‘things’. But actually, they are not.

When you look at the word label ‘GREEN' , what is the actual experience?

Is the color red ‘experienced’, or is the color green ‘experienced’ as the label suggests?

Does the label ‘GREEN’ have a one-to-one correspondence with ‘reality’? Or does the label suggest something else other than what is here now (red colour)?

Is 'green' associated in any way with the experience of the colour red; or is green just a label that overlays the actual experience of red?

If the label ‘GREEN’ is replaced with the label ‘GOOD’ or ‘BAD’ , is the redness affected in any way as the labels suggests?

Does redness become ‘good’ or ‘bad’, or do the labels have no affect whatsoever on ‘reality’?

Let me know what is SEEN.

Loving

[Edward60]

Have you read Gateless Gatecrashers?

Yes.

When you look at the word label ‘GREEN' , what is the actual experience?

Seeing the letters GREEN.

Is the color red ‘experienced’, or is the color green ‘experienced’ as the label suggests?

No, the color is not experienced.

Does the label ‘GREEN’ have a one-to-one correspondence with ‘reality’? Or does the label suggest something else other than what is here now (red colour)?

No, it suggests something other than what is here now.

Is 'green' associated in any way with the experience of the colour red; or is green just a label that overlays the actual experience of red?

Green is just a label that overlays the actual experience.

If the label ‘GREEN’ is replaced with the label ‘GOOD’ or ‘BAD’ , is the redness affected in any way as the labels suggests?

No, the redness is not affected in anyway.

Does redness become ‘good’ or ‘bad’, or do the labels have no affect whatsoever on ‘reality’?

The labels have no affect on reality.

[Anastacia42]

Good. How does it FEEL to see to its?


Give this a try.

Palm Flipping Exercise

1. Hold a hand in front of you; palm turned down.

2. Now turn the palm up. And down...and up and so on.

Watch like a hawk.

Don't go to thoughts – examine your direct experience.

Do this as many times as you like, and each time inquire:

How is the movement controlled?

Does a thought control it?

Can a ‘controller’ of any description be located?

How is the decision made to turn the hand over?

Track any decision point when a thought MADE THE DECISION to turn the hand over and the hand turns over immediately.

Who or what ​ chose which hand - the left or right hand for the exercise?

Can you find a separate individual or anything that is choosing when to turn the palm up or down?

Loving

[Edward60]

Good. How does it FEEL to see to its?

It feels like a loosening, a freeing from an artificial lens on/of what actually is.

Palm Flipping Exercise

How is the movement controlled?

I cannot identify a controller. The action appears.

Does a thought control it?

I cannot find a controlling thought.

Can a ‘controller’ of any description be located?

No.

How is the decision made to turn the hand over?

The decision just happens.

Track any decision point when a thought MADE THE DECISION to turn the hand over and the hand turns over immediately.

I cannot find a particular point of decision that is controlled by a thought.

Who or what chose which hand - the left or right hand for the exercise?

The right hand was automatically selected without a forethought, no who or what is located.

Can you find a separate individual or anything that is choosing when to turn the palm up or down?

No.

[Anastacia42]

Good!

Once again, how does it FEEL to see this?

We're looking for a shift in perception..

Can you say 100% there's no separate "self?:



Loving,