Hi Elad,
I’m reading again what you wrote to me last time, and I’m not sure which question you’re referring to.
What did I miss?
Could you tell me which question you meant?
All you need is love. Requesting Elad as guide.
Re: All you need is love. Requesting Elad as guide.
This one! I I will write core questions in blue, please always answer them.
Ps. The way you are moving with this is perfect. You want to keep the "not knowing" and stay loyal to it. And continue to inquire and look. Then we will see what happens.
Please write more about the way that direct inquiry is biased and limited in your experience. Spell it out as fully as possible.
With love,
Elad
Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry, the philosophy which does not laugh and the greatness which does not bow before children.
- Kahlil Gibran
One gets there by being there.
- Master Woof (Gilbert, Ta Hui)
Elad
Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry, the philosophy which does not laugh and the greatness which does not bow before children.
- Kahlil Gibran
One gets there by being there.
- Master Woof (Gilbert, Ta Hui)
Re: All you need is love. Requesting Elad as guide.
Thank you, Elad.
I really did miss that question as an instruction for continuing the inquiry (and I also got confused with the blue highlighting 🫣).
I want to make sure I understood correctly:
Is the invitation to notice everything that comes up while I turn attention to direct experience — everything that is not the direct experience — and write to you what I saw?
I really did miss that question as an instruction for continuing the inquiry (and I also got confused with the blue highlighting 🫣).
I want to make sure I understood correctly:
Is the invitation to notice everything that comes up while I turn attention to direct experience — everything that is not the direct experience — and write to you what I saw?
Re: All you need is love. Requesting Elad as guide.
Hey, yes the blue is something I use with most guidees, always to answer questions with blue. For some reason didn't do it with you from the unset, but lets do it please. Helps keep the communication clear and crips around key questions.
So, I am asking you to tell me what you mean by that "direct experience" is biased and so forth. Wanna clarify that, cause this might have an effect on your process.
So, I am asking you to tell me what you mean by that "direct experience" is biased and so forth. Wanna clarify that, cause this might have an effect on your process.
With love,
Elad
Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry, the philosophy which does not laugh and the greatness which does not bow before children.
- Kahlil Gibran
One gets there by being there.
- Master Woof (Gilbert, Ta Hui)
Elad
Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry, the philosophy which does not laugh and the greatness which does not bow before children.
- Kahlil Gibran
One gets there by being there.
- Master Woof (Gilbert, Ta Hui)
Re: All you need is love. Requesting Elad as guide.
Hi Elad,
I’m sharing that it took me a long time to understand the question and why you’re asking it.
I found myself reading it again and again and not understanding — it’s really frustrating, but also interesting…
What I mean is that a thought comes up, and with it a feeling arises, and afterward I become aware of a direct bodily experience.
For example:
Thought: They’re playing with my mind
Emotion: fear
Direct sensory experience: pounding in the chest or a shiver
I’m aware that these are words that describe and point to the direct experience and try to share it — but they are descriptions, not the thing itself.
I’d be glad to hear if I’m missing something in the practice or in your question 🙏🏻
I’m sharing that it took me a long time to understand the question and why you’re asking it.
I found myself reading it again and again and not understanding — it’s really frustrating, but also interesting…
What I mean is that a thought comes up, and with it a feeling arises, and afterward I become aware of a direct bodily experience.
For example:
Thought: They’re playing with my mind
Emotion: fear
Direct sensory experience: pounding in the chest or a shiver
I’m aware that these are words that describe and point to the direct experience and try to share it — but they are descriptions, not the thing itself.
I’d be glad to hear if I’m missing something in the practice or in your question 🙏🏻
Re: All you need is love. Requesting Elad as guide.
Hey Roni,
Your description of experience here sounds on point. What is not clear to me, is how it relates to your earlier statement that "direct experience is biased".
1) Do you still believe that "direct experience is biased" ?
2) If yes, what does that mean?
And to return to our main issue here:
3) This word "I", does it actually refer to a real self in control of life?
4) Or is it just a label, a "placeholder", like the word "here", that does not refer to any real self in control? Like, there is no real absolute "here", just the words function in different contexts, but it refers to nothing enduring and nothing in control and nothing separate. Is the same true for the words "I/self"?
At this point I also recommend you to read the book "Gateless Gatecrashers" (link to it online below). And just like when you listened to the "enlightening quotes", it is not mainly about if agree on an intellectual level and it is not mainly about if you feel good or bad about it - it just about DIRECTLY EXPERIENCING whatever happens while you read. And letting that "clarify what it clarifies by itself".
https://www.liberationunleashed.com/wp- ... ashers.pdf
Your description of experience here sounds on point. What is not clear to me, is how it relates to your earlier statement that "direct experience is biased".
1) Do you still believe that "direct experience is biased" ?
2) If yes, what does that mean?
And to return to our main issue here:
3) This word "I", does it actually refer to a real self in control of life?
4) Or is it just a label, a "placeholder", like the word "here", that does not refer to any real self in control? Like, there is no real absolute "here", just the words function in different contexts, but it refers to nothing enduring and nothing in control and nothing separate. Is the same true for the words "I/self"?
At this point I also recommend you to read the book "Gateless Gatecrashers" (link to it online below). And just like when you listened to the "enlightening quotes", it is not mainly about if agree on an intellectual level and it is not mainly about if you feel good or bad about it - it just about DIRECTLY EXPERIENCING whatever happens while you read. And letting that "clarify what it clarifies by itself".
https://www.liberationunleashed.com/wp- ... ashers.pdf
With love,
Elad
Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry, the philosophy which does not laugh and the greatness which does not bow before children.
- Kahlil Gibran
One gets there by being there.
- Master Woof (Gilbert, Ta Hui)
Elad
Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry, the philosophy which does not laugh and the greatness which does not bow before children.
- Kahlil Gibran
One gets there by being there.
- Master Woof (Gilbert, Ta Hui)
Re: All you need is love. Requesting Elad as guide.
I think what I meant is that I notice that when an inner experience arises — like thoughts — and attention turns toward it, I am no longer in the direct experience. And then I become aware again (or sometimes not) of everything that pulls me away from direct contact with the direct experience.
Re: All you need is love. Requesting Elad as guide.
Eladdddddddddddd
I’m sharing here that I’ve read up to the first six processes in the book.
Thoughts and judgments came up, like: “This isn’t real,” “Not authentic,” “Bad marketing.”
Feelings of rejection and frustration arose, and at moments also curiosity to continue reading.
I’ve just finished sitting quietly outside.
There is a body.
There are trees, grass, flowers, crickets, the moon.
There are smells and sounds.
There is the taste of an apple.
There are emotions: fear, sadness.
There is breathing.
There is movement.
And there is seeing.
That’s how it is right now.
There is quiet for a few moments.
And again a thought: “It’s strange like this,” “There is nothing to lean on.”
Fear arises, there is seeing, there is breathing, there is a body, there is an urge to write what is arising, an action is happening by itself, there is seeing of this happening — that’s how it is right now. 🙏🏻
I’m sharing here that I’ve read up to the first six processes in the book.
Thoughts and judgments came up, like: “This isn’t real,” “Not authentic,” “Bad marketing.”
Feelings of rejection and frustration arose, and at moments also curiosity to continue reading.
I’ve just finished sitting quietly outside.
There is a body.
There are trees, grass, flowers, crickets, the moon.
There are smells and sounds.
There is the taste of an apple.
There are emotions: fear, sadness.
There is breathing.
There is movement.
And there is seeing.
That’s how it is right now.
There is quiet for a few moments.
And again a thought: “It’s strange like this,” “There is nothing to lean on.”
Fear arises, there is seeing, there is breathing, there is a body, there is an urge to write what is arising, an action is happening by itself, there is seeing of this happening — that’s how it is right now. 🙏🏻
Re: All you need is love. Requesting Elad as guide.
Hey Rony, thank you for the sharing!
Please answer as directly as possible question 3 and 4:
3) This word "I", does it actually refer to a real self in control of life?
4) Or is it just a label, a "placeholder", like the word "here", that does not refer to any real self in control? Like, there is no real absolute "here", just the words function in different contexts, but it refers to nothing enduring and nothing in control and nothing separate. Is the same true for the words "I/self"?
Please answer as directly as possible question 3 and 4:
3) This word "I", does it actually refer to a real self in control of life?
4) Or is it just a label, a "placeholder", like the word "here", that does not refer to any real self in control? Like, there is no real absolute "here", just the words function in different contexts, but it refers to nothing enduring and nothing in control and nothing separate. Is the same true for the words "I/self"?
With love,
Elad
Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry, the philosophy which does not laugh and the greatness which does not bow before children.
- Kahlil Gibran
One gets there by being there.
- Master Woof (Gilbert, Ta Hui)
Elad
Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry, the philosophy which does not laugh and the greatness which does not bow before children.
- Kahlil Gibran
One gets there by being there.
- Master Woof (Gilbert, Ta Hui)
Re: All you need is love. Requesting Elad as guide.
Ps. I could share several guidings that would sound similar to the book. Here is one from last week, we have worked together probably for two months:
"'The perspective has shifted. It's so obvious.
THERE NEVER HAS BEEN AN INDIVIDUAL, SEPARATE SELF, SO THERE'S NOTHING FOR EXPERIENCES/THOUGHTS/SENSATIONS AND ALL THE REST, TO BELONG TO OR CLING TO.
There's nothing to have ownership of "IT," whatever IT is. Wow. Is this the real meaning of non-duality? If there is no separate self to be in relationship with IT, then how could there be two? There is only the thing itself that seems to appear.
There's the metaphor of the "self" as a hall of mirrors, the movie screen and movie, the actor forgetting he's playing a role, and lots of others. I've always known they're just metaphors, pointers, visualizations of concepts, and not to take them literally. But a "self" has been inserted into them over and over.
The hall of mirrors for example. One "mirror" of a thought/belief/memory/whatever, reflecting other "mirrors" infinitely. In fact, every mirror has no real separate existence. They're all just temporary spontaneous arisings that can sometimes seem quite solid or permanent. But Pete as a separate self has been inserted into this hall of mirrors in different ways. As a separate entity wandering through it or as a sort of self-aware mirror reflecting the other mirrors. In actuality, it's all just things arising and taking on temporary appearances spontaneously. There is no self in there to experience it and the mirrors themselves are just "smoke and mirrors." Ha.
Thank you, Elad! I really want you to know how much I appreciate you helping me get to this realization. With your selfless service you've helped me to see in a few weeks what years of seeking couldn't. It's just a matter of asking the right questions. Thank you!!
Wow. This is a strange place to be. There's no fireworks going off, just a profound shift and a feeling of one door closing, another door opening, so to speak. A falling away of something unneeded.
I can see now why you were asking me essentially the same question over and over."
"'The perspective has shifted. It's so obvious.
THERE NEVER HAS BEEN AN INDIVIDUAL, SEPARATE SELF, SO THERE'S NOTHING FOR EXPERIENCES/THOUGHTS/SENSATIONS AND ALL THE REST, TO BELONG TO OR CLING TO.
There's nothing to have ownership of "IT," whatever IT is. Wow. Is this the real meaning of non-duality? If there is no separate self to be in relationship with IT, then how could there be two? There is only the thing itself that seems to appear.
There's the metaphor of the "self" as a hall of mirrors, the movie screen and movie, the actor forgetting he's playing a role, and lots of others. I've always known they're just metaphors, pointers, visualizations of concepts, and not to take them literally. But a "self" has been inserted into them over and over.
The hall of mirrors for example. One "mirror" of a thought/belief/memory/whatever, reflecting other "mirrors" infinitely. In fact, every mirror has no real separate existence. They're all just temporary spontaneous arisings that can sometimes seem quite solid or permanent. But Pete as a separate self has been inserted into this hall of mirrors in different ways. As a separate entity wandering through it or as a sort of self-aware mirror reflecting the other mirrors. In actuality, it's all just things arising and taking on temporary appearances spontaneously. There is no self in there to experience it and the mirrors themselves are just "smoke and mirrors." Ha.
Thank you, Elad! I really want you to know how much I appreciate you helping me get to this realization. With your selfless service you've helped me to see in a few weeks what years of seeking couldn't. It's just a matter of asking the right questions. Thank you!!
Wow. This is a strange place to be. There's no fireworks going off, just a profound shift and a feeling of one door closing, another door opening, so to speak. A falling away of something unneeded.
I can see now why you were asking me essentially the same question over and over."
With love,
Elad
Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry, the philosophy which does not laugh and the greatness which does not bow before children.
- Kahlil Gibran
One gets there by being there.
- Master Woof (Gilbert, Ta Hui)
Elad
Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry, the philosophy which does not laugh and the greatness which does not bow before children.
- Kahlil Gibran
One gets there by being there.
- Master Woof (Gilbert, Ta Hui)
Re: All you need is love. Requesting Elad as guide.
Hi dear Elad,
I’d been waiting to write to you since yesterday morning, and only now I have the space — and there is so much…
Until yesterday morning I probably would have struggled to answer questions 3 and 4 with such clarity, but starting yesterday morning my answers are clear:
To question 3: Absolutely not!
To question 4: Absolutely yes!
I’m also sending what came up yesterday during the morning and I didn’t get the chance to share — it was a surprising day, both in its specialness and in its ordinariness at the same time…
This is what came up yesterday:
I sat this morning.
I read João’s chapter.
Everything felt clear, precise, bright, true.
A thought arose, wondering whether and how clear seeing will change anything.
There are still feelings of sadness, fear, anger that arise (even writing why suddenly seems unnecessary, and only explanations arise—explanations that both have a reality that happens, and also seem like thoughts that arise because of the emotions, or ones that arise and create emotions).
I’m sitting outside,
there is wind, grey clouds moving in the sky,
the treetops are swaying.
My partner (well, it is relevant to say that we argued on Saturday, and there is hurt, anger, disappointment) asks something,
a spontaneous answer arises—there is no “me” choosing it, it just arises…
He gets up and walks away,
a thought arises: “He’s angry,”
guilt arises, fear arises,
and suddenly there is a clear seeing of the emotions:
these are energies that rise and fall,
neither ״I ״ nor ״he ״ owns them,
they move through the body.
Suddenly there is no “I who is angry” or “he who is angry”—
there is just emotion and sensation and thought.
There is a deep knowing that there is no action to take right now,
and that it’s possible to let it be as it is.
So much suffering is saved…
there is still pain,
but something new and deep has shifted,
it’s all so strange—wow.
Yesterday around noon:
For the first time in my life it’s raining and joy arises.
There is no contraction in the body.
No “me” that hates rain,
that is afraid.
No “me” that loves it.
Only open, curious presence.
It’s so new…
and a thought arises that maybe it’s not really new,
and it doesn’t really matter.
It’s simply surprising, new, and intriguing.
So much is happening.
It is so different without the sense of ownership over what arises.
Thank you dear Elad for the path that allows me to see, I didn’t believe the moment would come when a direct experience of what I had long understood intellectually would appear. It was like staring at a black wall and seeing nothing — it’s so surprising
There are no words for it—
or for my gratitude
for the patience, the generous giving,
for the wisdom and the presence that allows truth to reveal itself.
Much love and appreciation❤️🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻
I’d been waiting to write to you since yesterday morning, and only now I have the space — and there is so much…
Until yesterday morning I probably would have struggled to answer questions 3 and 4 with such clarity, but starting yesterday morning my answers are clear:
To question 3: Absolutely not!
To question 4: Absolutely yes!
I’m also sending what came up yesterday during the morning and I didn’t get the chance to share — it was a surprising day, both in its specialness and in its ordinariness at the same time…
This is what came up yesterday:
I sat this morning.
I read João’s chapter.
Everything felt clear, precise, bright, true.
A thought arose, wondering whether and how clear seeing will change anything.
There are still feelings of sadness, fear, anger that arise (even writing why suddenly seems unnecessary, and only explanations arise—explanations that both have a reality that happens, and also seem like thoughts that arise because of the emotions, or ones that arise and create emotions).
I’m sitting outside,
there is wind, grey clouds moving in the sky,
the treetops are swaying.
My partner (well, it is relevant to say that we argued on Saturday, and there is hurt, anger, disappointment) asks something,
a spontaneous answer arises—there is no “me” choosing it, it just arises…
He gets up and walks away,
a thought arises: “He’s angry,”
guilt arises, fear arises,
and suddenly there is a clear seeing of the emotions:
these are energies that rise and fall,
neither ״I ״ nor ״he ״ owns them,
they move through the body.
Suddenly there is no “I who is angry” or “he who is angry”—
there is just emotion and sensation and thought.
There is a deep knowing that there is no action to take right now,
and that it’s possible to let it be as it is.
So much suffering is saved…
there is still pain,
but something new and deep has shifted,
it’s all so strange—wow.
Yesterday around noon:
For the first time in my life it’s raining and joy arises.
There is no contraction in the body.
No “me” that hates rain,
that is afraid.
No “me” that loves it.
Only open, curious presence.
It’s so new…
and a thought arises that maybe it’s not really new,
and it doesn’t really matter.
It’s simply surprising, new, and intriguing.
So much is happening.
It is so different without the sense of ownership over what arises.
Thank you dear Elad for the path that allows me to see, I didn’t believe the moment would come when a direct experience of what I had long understood intellectually would appear. It was like staring at a black wall and seeing nothing — it’s so surprising
There are no words for it—
or for my gratitude
for the patience, the generous giving,
for the wisdom and the presence that allows truth to reveal itself.
Much love and appreciation❤️🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻
Re: All you need is love. Requesting Elad as guide.
Wow Roni, so happy for you!! That's it. Write me more soon, how is the unfolding continuing?
With love,
Elad
Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry, the philosophy which does not laugh and the greatness which does not bow before children.
- Kahlil Gibran
One gets there by being there.
- Master Woof (Gilbert, Ta Hui)
Elad
Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry, the philosophy which does not laugh and the greatness which does not bow before children.
- Kahlil Gibran
One gets there by being there.
- Master Woof (Gilbert, Ta Hui)
Re: All you need is love. Requesting Elad as guide.
A huge thank you, Elad.
And yes, I would truly love to keep sharing here whatever comes up…
In the meantime, I can share that yesterday there was a surprising moment when an organic, spontaneous movement of reconnecting with my partner arose, along with warm feelings. There was no “me” trying to do or not do anything, no “me” judging the action that happened by itself, no “me” imagining the unexpected action that was about to occur. There was a kind of surrender and connection to something that was simply happening on its own, effortlessly, so precise and surprising.
Nothing in the external reality changed regarding the circumstances of the anger or hurt that had come up in the previous days — in fact, yesterday more thoughts came up about other events from the last few days that stirred more painful emotions.
There was a knowing that this is what’s happening now, there wasn’t a “me” it was happening to, and a lot of compassion arose when there also wasn’t a “him” doing anything to me. It is incredibly freeing to experience this directly.
There was also relief in being able to stay present and see what is actually happening, and that allowed spontaneous waves of love and joy to burst through, seemingly out of nowhere and without any visible reason.
Now, I’m sitting to rest and write to you after an intense day in the ward. Usually, I come home exhausted, with no energy for anything, struggling to “move myself” to do things that are “important to me.”
Now there is seeing of how actions happen on their own, without the quality of struggle or depletion. There is an ability to rest without a “me” feeling pressured or guilty about anything, and there is enjoyment in sitting here and sharing with you whatever arises.
It’s all so surprisingly quiet, with such a gentle quality to this seeing… and there is curiosity about what else might come, without any expectation.
A thought comes up: “This can’t be real,” and now a playful smile appears, and there is calm.
And that’s how it is right now.
If it’s okay with you, I’ll write more later 🙏🏻❤️
And yes, I would truly love to keep sharing here whatever comes up…
In the meantime, I can share that yesterday there was a surprising moment when an organic, spontaneous movement of reconnecting with my partner arose, along with warm feelings. There was no “me” trying to do or not do anything, no “me” judging the action that happened by itself, no “me” imagining the unexpected action that was about to occur. There was a kind of surrender and connection to something that was simply happening on its own, effortlessly, so precise and surprising.
Nothing in the external reality changed regarding the circumstances of the anger or hurt that had come up in the previous days — in fact, yesterday more thoughts came up about other events from the last few days that stirred more painful emotions.
There was a knowing that this is what’s happening now, there wasn’t a “me” it was happening to, and a lot of compassion arose when there also wasn’t a “him” doing anything to me. It is incredibly freeing to experience this directly.
There was also relief in being able to stay present and see what is actually happening, and that allowed spontaneous waves of love and joy to burst through, seemingly out of nowhere and without any visible reason.
Now, I’m sitting to rest and write to you after an intense day in the ward. Usually, I come home exhausted, with no energy for anything, struggling to “move myself” to do things that are “important to me.”
Now there is seeing of how actions happen on their own, without the quality of struggle or depletion. There is an ability to rest without a “me” feeling pressured or guilty about anything, and there is enjoyment in sitting here and sharing with you whatever arises.
It’s all so surprisingly quiet, with such a gentle quality to this seeing… and there is curiosity about what else might come, without any expectation.
A thought comes up: “This can’t be real,” and now a playful smile appears, and there is calm.
And that’s how it is right now.
If it’s okay with you, I’ll write more later 🙏🏻❤️
Re: All you need is love. Requesting Elad as guide.
How beautiful! 💚
And yes of course, write!
How do you feel about answering a set of questions that aim to check for the clarity of the insight that seems to emamenate from the last two messages?
The answers might give rise to more clarification work between us, or, if the answers seem clear to me, 3 other guides will review as well. If they have questions, we will look into them. That is basically away of deepening clarity. When other guides don't have any more questions, we will conclude the inquiry here "formally", but really, we can continue exchanging here as long as we want, and also, we will talk about how the process might continue. Seeing through the self-illusion is a big shift - and it is more like a new chapter then "the ending of the book".
We can proceed with this when you feel ready. There is no rush.
And yes of course, write!
How do you feel about answering a set of questions that aim to check for the clarity of the insight that seems to emamenate from the last two messages?
The answers might give rise to more clarification work between us, or, if the answers seem clear to me, 3 other guides will review as well. If they have questions, we will look into them. That is basically away of deepening clarity. When other guides don't have any more questions, we will conclude the inquiry here "formally", but really, we can continue exchanging here as long as we want, and also, we will talk about how the process might continue. Seeing through the self-illusion is a big shift - and it is more like a new chapter then "the ending of the book".
We can proceed with this when you feel ready. There is no rush.
With love,
Elad
Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry, the philosophy which does not laugh and the greatness which does not bow before children.
- Kahlil Gibran
One gets there by being there.
- Master Woof (Gilbert, Ta Hui)
Elad
Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry, the philosophy which does not laugh and the greatness which does not bow before children.
- Kahlil Gibran
One gets there by being there.
- Master Woof (Gilbert, Ta Hui)
Re: All you need is love. Requesting Elad as guide.
Thank you, Elad.
I will be happy to continue the path and I feel ready for it, and I truly appreciate your invitation to keep accompanying me in it.
I׳m completely open to continue the inquiry you’re offering here. 🙏🏻
I will be happy to continue the path and I feel ready for it, and I truly appreciate your invitation to keep accompanying me in it.
I׳m completely open to continue the inquiry you’re offering here. 🙏🏻
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