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Re: Who am I?

Postby Anastacia42 » Wed Nov 12, 2025 2:53 am

Are the answers supposed to be more than just intellectual?
Yes. Definitely. This is more of a meditation where you allow answers to arise, rather than intellectualizing everything.

Maybe these will help:

www.thework.com

From the above:

"This Work is a meditation practice. It’s like diving into yourself. Contemplate the questions, one at a time. Drop into the depths of yourself, listen, and wait. The answer will meet your question."

This is Katie's story;:

https://youtu.be/zPQYunNwXsQ?si=a6GO9WAOeBoXvUxc


It's only your mind that's fighting this.

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"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."

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Re: Who am I?

Postby Anastacia42 » Wed Nov 12, 2025 3:02 am

HOW TO DO TURN AROUNDS

Turn Arounds are just a grammar exercise.
Usually, we only get stuck when our thinking or our emotions are stuck. It’s not about the words themselves. By thinking of it as a grammar exercise, you can simply find opposites.
If you can find the opposite of a word, you can do Turn Arounds. The simplest way to do turn arounds is to find an opposite of each word in the sentence, one at a time. (Then you can do double turn arounds if you like, but start with one word at a time.)
If you have a 4 word sentence, you can find at least 5 Turn Arounds, one for the opposite of each word, plus the “My Thinking” Turn Around:
Judgment: Mary shouldn’t hit Joe.
Turn Around “Mary”:
I shouldn’t hit Joe.
Joe shouldn’t hit Mary.
Turn Around “should not”:
Mary should hit Joe.
Turn Around “hit”
Mary shouldn’t caress Joe.
Turn around “Joe”:
Mary shouldn’t hit Mary.
Mary shouldn’t hit me.
Then there are a couple of additional Turn Arounds we can do:
The “My Thinking” Turn Around:
My thinking shouldn’t hit Joe.
The “Someone” Turn Around:
Someone shouldn’t hit Joe.
Mary shouldn’t hit someone.
That was 10 Turn Arounds for one 4-word sentence. You can do this!

The “Someone” Turn Around is very useful when the thought under inquiry is about a skill or a resource. You may not have that skill or resource, but “someone” does!
I don’t have enough money.
Someone Turn Around:
Someone has enough money.


More Turn Arounds
When the judgment is more complex, there are even more Turn Arounds. Here are about a dozen Turn Arounds for a single judgment. You can use these as a guide when you feel stuck.

Original Judgment Thought:
I am angry at Sally because she treats her co-workers poorly.

Turn Around to Other:
I am angry at me because I treat my co-workers poorly.
I am angry at me because I treat Sally poorly.
I am angry at me because I treat Sally’s co-workers poorly.

Turn Around to Self:
I'm angry at me because I treat me poorly.

Turn Around to Opposite:
I am not angry at Sally because she treats her co-workers poorly.
I am happy with Sally because she treats her co-workers poorly. (without “not”)
I am happy with Sally because she doesn’t treat her co-workers poorly. (without “not”)
I'm not angry at me because Sally treats her co-workers poorly.
While using “not” is a valid turn around. It can be powerful to find the actual opposite of the word.

Turn Around to "My Thinking"
I’m angry at my thinking because it treats Sally’s co-workers poorly.
I’m angry at my thinking because it treats Sally poorly.
I’m angry at my thinking because it treats me poorly.
My thinking is angry at Sally because she treats her co-workers poorly.

Turn Around to a Metaphor
Maybe you wrote, “I don’t like Sally drinking alcohol,” but you do not drink alcohol. What do you do that is similar? Do you smoke? Do you shop? Do you have sex? Do you judge Sally in unhealthy, obsessive or addictive ways?

Turn Around to the Same Words, A Reframe
Also Known as the Yahoo! Turn Around
If you wrote, "I don't like Sally," you could Turn Around without changing any words, just by changing the meaning.


Yahoo! I don’t like Sally!
For example, “I don’t like Sally,” could be referring to the “Sally” in your mind that you think about, not actually to Sally as she exists. You don’t like the Sally in your mind (or your story about Sally) when you think, “I don’t like Sally.”

Find at Least 3 Examples or Proofs
Find at least 3 examples in your life where each Turn Around is true or could be true. Why 3? Because only one usually isn’t enough. Two puts you in a double-bind of either/or. Three helps break us loose so then we can see many proofs.
The Turn Around for Number Six (on the Judge Your Neighbor Worksheet (JYN)
The Turn Around for the last question on the "Judge Your Neighbor Worksheet" where you write your answer to “I don’t ever want to experience (_______) with that person again” is a bit different. There are two of them.
I am willing to experience (_____________).
Find 3 examples or proofs.

I look forward to experiencing (____________).
Find 3 examples or proofs.
Look forward to these situations that seemingly cause stress & upset because they remind us to come back to Inquiry, to question our untrue thinking and find peace.



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~ Stacy

"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."

~ Adyashanti

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Re: Who am I?

Postby Anastacia42 » Wed Nov 12, 2025 3:10 am

More info on the questions from Katie's page:

The Work is a Practice

Every time you do The Work you are becoming enlightened to who and what you are, the true nature of being. To question what you believe is an amazing gift to give yourself, and you can have it all the days of your life. The answers are always inside you, just waiting to be heard.

To begin, download a Worksheet or have a blank sheet of paper in front of you.


Notice
Who or what upsets you? Why? Recall a specific situation.

To begin, relax and be still. Travel in your mind to a specific situation where you were angry, hurt, sad, or disappointed with someone. Witness the situation. Be there now. Notice, name, and feel the emotion you were experiencing at the time. Find the reason you were upset.


Write
Capture your stressful thoughts on a Judge-Your-Neighbor Worksheet using short, simple sentences.

Staying anchored in the situation, at a specific moment in time, write down your responses to the questions on the Worksheet, using short, simple sentences. Write without censoring yourself. Allow yourself to be as judgmental, childish, and petty as you were in that moment. This is an opportunity to discover the cause of your stress and emotions in that moment.


Question
Isolate one thought. Ask the four questions. Allow the genuine answers to arise.

To begin, isolate a statement for inquiry. Now apply the four questions. Begin by repeating the original statement, then ask yourself each question. This Work is a meditation practice. It’s like diving into yourself. Contemplate the questions, one at a time. Drop into the depths of yourself, listen, and wait. The answer will meet your question.

A Guide To
The Four Questions
Q1. Is it true?
Q2. Can you absolutely know that it’s true?
Q3. How do you react, what happens, when you believe that thought?
Q4. Who would you be without that thought?
Read more about the questions in this excerpt from Katie's most recent book, A Mind at Home in Itself.
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An Excerpt from A Mind at Home with Itself
Is it true?
As you consider the situation again, ask yourself, “Is it true that Paul doesn’t listen to me?” Be still. If you really want to know the truth, the honest yes or no from within will rise to meet the question as you recall that situation in your mind’s eye. Let the mind ask the question, and wait for the answer that surfaces. (The answer to the first two questions is just one syllable long; it’s either yes or no. Notice if you experience any defense as you answer. If your answer includes “because . . .” or “but . . . ,” this is not the one-syllable answer you are looking for, and you’re no longer doing The Work. You’re looking for freedom outside yourself. I’m inviting you into a new paradigm.)

Reality, for me, is what is true. The truth is whatever is in front of you, whatever is really happening. Whether you like it or not, it’s raining now. “It shouldn’t be raining” is just a thought. In reality, there is no such thing as a “should” or a “shouldn’t.” These are only thoughts that we superimpose onto reality. Without the Without the “should” and “shouldn’t,” we can see reality as it is, and this leaves us free to act efficiently, clearly, and sanely.

When asking the first question, take your time. The answer is either yes or no. (If it’s no, move to question 3.) The Work is about discovering what is true from the deepest part of yourself. You are listening for your answers now, not other people’s, and not anything you have been taught. This can be very unsettling at first, because you’re entering the unknown. As you continue to dive deeper, allow the truth within you to rise and meet the question. Be gentle as you give yourself to inquiry. Let this experience have you completely. “

Can you absolutely know that it's true?
Consider these questions: “In this situation, can I absolutely know that it’s true that Paul isn’t listening to me? Can I ever really know when someone is listening or not? Am I sometimes listening even when I appear not to be?”

If your answer to question 1 is yes, ask yourself, “Can I absolutely know that it’s true?” In many cases, the statement appears to be true. Of course it does. Your concepts are based on a lifetime of uninvestigated beliefs.

After I woke up to reality in 1986, I noticed many times how people, in conversations, the media, and books, made statements such as “There isn’t enough understanding in the world,” “There’s too much violence,” “We should love one another more.” These were stories I used to believe too. They seemed sensitive, kind, and caring, but as I heard them, I noticed that believing them caused stress and that they didn’t feel peaceful inside me.

For instance, when I heard someone say, “People should be more loving,” the question would arise in me, “Can I absolutely know that that’s true? Can I really know for myself, within myself, that people should be more loving? Even if the whole world tells me so, is it really true?” And, to my amazement, when I listened within myself, I saw that the world is what it is in this moment and that in this moment people couldn’t possibly be more loving than they were. Where reality is concerned, there is no “what should be.” There is only what is, just the way it is, right now. The truth is prior to every story. And every story, prior to investigation, prevents us from seeing what’s true.

Now I could finally inquire of every potentially uncomfortable story, “Can I absolutely know that it’s true?” And the answer, like the question, was an experience: no. I would stand rooted in that answer—solitary, peaceful, free.

How could no be the right answer? Everyone I knew, and all the books, said that the answer should be yes. But I came to see that the truth is itself and will not be dictated to by anyone. In the presence of that inner no, I came to see that the world is always as it should be, whether I oppose it or not. And I came to embrace reality with all my heart. I love the world, without any conditions.

If your answer is still yes, good. If you think that you can absolutely know that that’s true, that’s as it should be, and it’s fine to move on to question 3.

How do you react when you believe that thought?
With this question, we begin to notice internal cause and effect. You can see that when you believe the thought, there is an uneasy feeling, a disturbance that can range from mild discomfort to fear or panic.

How do you react when you believe that Paul doesn’t listen to you? How do you treat him? Be still; notice. For example: “I feel frustrated and sick to my stomach; I give him ‘the look’; I interrupt him; I punish him; I ignore him; I lose my temper. I start talking faster and louder, and I try to force him to listen.”

Continue your list as you witness the situation and allow the images in your mind’s eye to show you how you react when you believe that thought.

Does that thought bring peace or stress into your life? What images do you see, past and future, and what physical sensations arise as you witness those images? Allow yourself to experience them now. Do any obsessions or addictions begin to appear when you believe that thought? (Do you act out on any of the following: alcohol, drugs, credit cards, food, sex, television, or computers?) Also, witness how you treat yourself in this situation and how that feels. “I shut down. I isolate myself, I feel sick, I feel angry, I eat compulsively, and for days I watch television without really watching. I feel depressed, separate, resentful, and lonely.” Notice all the effects of thinking the thought “Paul doesn’t listen to me.”

After the four questions found me, I would notice thoughts like “People should be more loving,” and I would see that thoughts like these caused a feeling of uneasiness in me. I noticed that prior to the thought, there was peace. My mind was quiet and serene. This is who I am without my story. Then, in the stillness of awareness, I began to notice the feelings that came from believing or attaching to the thought. And in the stillness I could see that if I were to believe the thought, the result would be a feeling of unease and sadness. When I asked, “How do I react when I believe the thought that people should be more loving?” I saw that not only did I have an uncomfortable feeling (this was obvious), but I also reacted with mental pictures to prove that the thought was true. I flew off into a world that didn’t exist. I reacted by living in a stressed body, seeing everything through fearful eyes, a sleepwalker, someone in a seemingly endless nightmare. The remedy was simply to investigate.

I love question 3. Once you answer it for yourself, once you see the cause and effect of believing a thought, all your suffering begins to unravel.

Who would you be without that thought?
This is a very powerful question. Picture yourself standing in the presence of the person you have written about when he (or she) is doing what you think he shouldn’t be doing. Consider, for example, who you would be without the thought “Paul doesn’t listen to me.” Who would you be in the same situation if you didn’t believe that thought? Close your eyes and imagine Paul not listening to you. Imagine yourself without the thought that Paul doesn’t listen to you (or that he even should listen). Take your time. Notice what is revealed to you. What do you see now? How does that feel?

For many people, life without their story is literally unimaginable. They have no reference for it. So “I don’t know” is a common answer to this question. Other people answer by saying, “I’d be free,” “I’d be peaceful,” “I’d be a more loving person.” You could also say, “I’d be clear enough to understand the situation and act in an appropriate, intelligent way.” Without our stories, we are not only able to act clearly and fearlessly; we are also a friend, a listener. We are people living happy lives. We are appreciation and gratitude that have become as natural as breath itself. Happiness is the natural state for someone who knows that there’s nothing to know and that we already have everything we need, right here now.


Turn It Around
Turn the thought around. Is the opposite as true as or truer than the original thought?

To do the turnarounds, find opposites of the original statement on your Worksheet. Often a statement can be turned around to the self, to the other, and to the opposite. Not every statement has as many as three turnarounds. Some may have just one or two, and others may have more than three. Some turnarounds may not make any sense to you. Don’t force these.
~ Stacy

"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."

~ Adyashanti

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Re: Who am I?

Postby beingbraden » Fri Nov 14, 2025 2:01 am

Not going to lie, there is a lot of resistance that comes up when I sit down to answer those questions. Tightness in my jaw and head, impatience, thoughts about how the questions don't make sense or are leading me to specific answers, etc.

I sat down and went though my list though. I might be able to see why you were saying that the mind was resisting because answering the questions forced me to see how some of my beliefs are creating the negative feelings that I am trying to get rid of most of the time. I was able to do a lot more turnarounds this time thanks to the info that you sent over.

There is still a lot of resistance to doing those questions and the turnarounds.

I have been sitting a lot. Paying attention to direct experience, being in my body a lot more, questioning a lot of things. I have also been watching The Awakening Curriculum and some Angelo Dilulo videos on youtube.

The insight I had today was that there is nothing outside my experience. Its sort of hard to explain, but I saw for a second how anything that "I" am is just sensations or thoughts. All there ever is is just experience. Nothing exists for me outside of sensations. Theres nothing special or separate from that. Yeah, I'm doing a poor job of explaining it, but it was a pretty cool realization today.

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Re: Who am I?

Postby Anastacia42 » Fri Nov 14, 2025 5:18 am

There is still a lot of resistance to doing those questions and the turnarounds.
Maybe it's not what you should be doing OR there's a lie thought there. I don't know which.

https://youtu.be/a_8N331jpA4?si=GM2BVHXo8sW3lGMp

I have been sitting a lot. Paying attention to direct experience, being in my body a lot more, questioning a lot of things. I have also been watching The Awakening Curriculum and some Angelo Dilulo videos on youtube.
being in my body a lot more
Good!

Sitting & thinking or sitting & looking? Sounds like a mixture. Looking is what is needed. More of that.
The insight I had today was that there is nothing outside my experience. Its sort of hard to explain, but I saw for a second how anything that "I" am is just sensations or thoughts. All there ever is is just experience. Nothing exists for me outside of sensations. Theres nothing special or separate from that. Yeah, I'm doing a poor job of explaining it, but it was a pretty cool realization today
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Yes. "I" is a thought plus a contraction or lie/no feeling in the body.

How did that FEEL? (Sensation)


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Re: Who am I?

Postby beingbraden » Mon Nov 17, 2025 2:26 am

Maybe it's not what you should be doing OR there's a lie thought there. I don't know which.
Yeah, I'm not sure either. I am not writing it off completely but I haven't been doing 'The Work' questions. I will probably try again later this week.
Sitting & thinking or sitting & looking? Sounds like a mixture. Looking is what is needed. More of that.
Yes, you are right. Unfortunately there is this really strong reflex to always be trying to make sense of everything and explain what is going on or what I am learning. Need to focus more on just experience and looking
How did that FEEL? (Sensation)
When I had that specific insight there was a sense of expansion, and at the same time a feeling of settling or relaxation. It felt like I had stopped looking for some type of specific thing.

I have been easing off formal sitting the past couple days. It seems like it comes and goes in waves. I will sit for super long periods and be extremely dedicated for a period and then I will ease off and not sit as much. I always try to pay attention to direct experience whether I am sitting for mediation or not throughout the day.

I'm really hesitant to ask this question as I don't want to be breaking any rules of the forum or anything like that, but I have become more and more curious lately about plant medicines / psychedelics. Does LU have a stance on these substances and their relationship to awakening and what you are pointing at?

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Re: Who am I?

Postby Anastacia42 » Mon Nov 17, 2025 3:57 am

I'm really hesitant to ask this question as I don't want to be breaking any rules of the forum or anything like that, but I have become more and more curious lately about plant medicines / psychedelics. Does LU have a stance on these substances and their relationship to awakening and what you are pointing at?
It's not "rules of the forum." It's what *works* to guide you to see.

You can ask questions .

No. LU does not "take a stance" on entheogens. I did some, myself decades ago. While it might give you a glimpse. We guide without drugs.

You don't want to rely on anything outside yourself for what is already here, naturally. That's my opinion.

Any other questions?

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"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."

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Re: Who am I?

Postby beingbraden » Mon Nov 17, 2025 4:58 am

Okay, that makes sense. Thanks.

If I'm understanding correctly I know that ultimately seeing is just going to happen when I finally LOOK and see clearly enough, but is there anything else that I can be doing to help the process? I've heard people talk about shadow work, dealing with trauma, etc. Are there any other processes I should be spending time with or is it all just about looking from wherever I'm at right now?

Also, just to confirm when you keep telling me to LOOK we are talking about just paying attention to direct experience right? Just paying attention to sensations, sounds, smells, tastes, vision, and then taking note of any thoughts but not engaging with the content of thoughts. Basically just trying to see raw reality without labeling anything, and then waiting in that space. Am I getting that right?

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Re: Who am I?

Postby Anastacia42 » Mon Nov 17, 2025 9:14 am

okay...

Shadow work is good any time. It is just the kinds of thing you would go to therapy for. I did a ton of it with the Work of Byron Kati4 before I saw.. Many people do it after.
is it all just about looking from wherever I'm at right now?
when you keep telling me to LOOK we are talking about just paying attention to direct experience right?
Yes, Just LOOK now. I don't know how to say any clearer. You are making it much harder than it has to be with all the thinking.
Am I getting that right?
Yes. Stop overthinking it. Thought won't help you at all. Only looking will.

Also, it is unlikely you will see while you're in the middle of your practice. It's more likely to creep upon you when you're relaxed and not paying attention. But doing the practice sets up the conditions.

a quote:

Thus you should see that
indeed there is no thing here;
this, Bahiya, is how you should train yourself.
Since, Bahiya, there is for you
in the seen, only the seen,
in the heard, only the heard,
in the sensed, only the sensed,
in the cognized, only the cognized,
and you see that there is no thing here,
you will therefore see that
indeed there is no thing there.
As you see that there is no thing there,
you will see that
you are therefore located neither in the world of this,
nor in the world of that,
nor in any place
betwixt the two.
This alone is the end of suffering.

Loving,
~ Stacy

"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."

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Re: Who am I?

Postby beingbraden » Wed Nov 19, 2025 3:29 am

Yes, Just LOOK now. I don't know how to say any clearer. You are making it much harder than it has to be with all the thinking.
I agree that the instructions and pointers are very simple and easy to understand, but for some reason I can't seem to get it. There has been a lot of frustration coming up today.
Yes. Stop overthinking it. Thought won't help you at all. Only looking will.
Unfortunately I knew this would happen. I overthink most things and always want to conceptualize whatever experiences I am having.

Today I've been noticing how much of what I think I am experiencing is actually stories. Most thoughts (all thoughts?) seem to be stories that are trying to make sense of other sensations or the world around me.. but they aren't actually real. I've had a frustrating day today, mostly due to personal things going on in my life, and the frustration is all because I am believing a story.
Sorry if this is all not super relevant. I don't think I have really made any other progress or realizations since last posting

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Re: Who am I?

Postby Anastacia42 » Wed Nov 19, 2025 3:47 am

Yes. All thoughts are made up stories.

I'm sorry you're frustrated. You must be relaxed in order to see.

Loving,
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Re: Who am I?

Postby beingbraden » Fri Nov 21, 2025 6:33 pm

Yesterday I had a glimpse, or some type of state. I guess it’s hard to really say if I’m “seeing it” or if something else is going on.

It happened a couple times actually. Once near the end of my meditation and then also when I was driving home from work later that day.

There was a feeling of deep relaxation. I was able to tap into this feeling of just seeing things as they are without wanting them to change. I think there were too many thoughts going on, because I was just thinking a lot about how everything is just happening and there’s nothing to really worry about. I’m starting to let go of my ideas of how it’s “supposed to be”. There’s usually this constant pressure in my chest / stomach area like I’m slightly holding my breath or flexing in some way, but that dropped. It felt more vulnerable, but also good in a way. Like just trusting in life.

I really don’t know how to get over the over-thinking though. Every time I have an experience I want to analyze and figure out hope to describe it in this philosophical, flowery language. I want to have a cool, earth-shattering experience. The more I drop expectations the better I fell, but there’s always this secret part of me hoping for some big bang.

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Re: Who am I?

Postby Anastacia42 » Fri Nov 21, 2025 6:44 pm

Yes, those are at least glimpses of true seeing

You started October 5th. It has been only 7 weeks. Relax & be patient!

So, here is a pointer that may force you to look, not think:

Continue with ButtChair.

It is simple direct & nonverbal. Just LOOK.

Then write what is true.

I did only this and nothing else for 3 months and then saw. It crept up on me while I was sitting at a stoplight. Seeing often happens when we are simply relaxed and looking. I should say, it ONLY happens when we are relaxed and LOOKING. All thinking is useless. Truly.
constant pressure in my chest / stomach area like I’m slightly holding my breath or flexing in some way, but that dropped.
Yes. The lie contraction drops when you see the truth.
The more I drop expectations the better
Yes that is because only expectations and fear can keep you from seeing the truth that is present here right now.

KEEP LOOKING

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"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."

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Re: Who am I?

Postby beingbraden » Thu Nov 27, 2025 2:15 am

Hey Stacy

Sorry I have been awol the past few days. I have been extremely ill so I wasn't doing anything except resting as much as possible in bed, but I am mostly recovered now.

It was sort of funny whenever this type of LU stuff would pop into my head during my sickness. I feel like it was really clear seeing the "witness" that isn't touched by things like sickness or pain, although I know that's not what we're focused on here. I could also see how many stories I was telling myself about the sickness and how bad it was, or how long it was going to last, or whatever and it was all just stories.. Anyways.

I will commit more to ButtChair, I feel like I just need to focus on one thing. I have reviewed the instructions that you sent originally for ButtChair, is there anything additional that I should know about it? Any pointers to know if I'm doing it correctly or incorrectly?

Thank you. I will hopefully be back to regular updates now

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Re: Who am I?

Postby Anastacia42 » Thu Nov 27, 2025 12:02 pm

Hi,

Sorry you've been sick.

No. It's very straightforward & simple.

Loving,
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