Seeking guidance for doubt and fetter work

[poppyseed]

Hi Laura

Right now, without the commentary — is there any difference between this ordinary moment and the “awakening” you hoped for?

I am not sure about how to answer this...This is here; bright, clear, unfolding without thoughts. The awakening I thought might happen would include fantastical visions of past lives and lots of crying with joy. This is pretty nice though. Oh well.

That “oh well” is still a thought - the seeker identity trying to sneak back in.
It’s not neutral. It’s resignation with a subtle trace of lack. Catch it.
Without referencing thought, without referencing memory, without imagining a next step, is there anything you are missing?
Not “what do you think.”
Not “what should be here, but it’s OK.”
What’s actually here, when you don’t touch a single thought about it?
Just for a second, don’t explain. Look.

In DE it is only me

If I follow my looking into thoughts and where they came from I end up with "I just AM. This."

Beautiful — you’re not imagining this. You’re seeing through it. But I want to flag something subtle.
“I just AM. This.”?
That quiet presence? It’s tempting to stop there — to rest in the warmth of “I AM.” But even that is just another shape, another flicker inside what’s already whole.
Try this:
When “I AM” shows up, ask:
Can it stay without being watched?
What happens if you stop touching it completely?
Without the thought “I AM,” what’s here?
Don’t land on a new concept. Don’t answer it — look. Over and over.
This isn't about arriving at “being.” It’s about seeing that even that arises in what can’t be held.
Keep going.

There is no 'over there' in my direct experience, only here

It is all the same and appears here.

There are only sensations and thoughts here. There is no other direct experience. No friend. No cat HoneyBee. How sad.

That “how sad” is important. It reveals something:
There’s still a subtle idea of a “you” left alone, having to face this raw, impersonal mystery without the warmth of “others.” It shows that the mind has quickly tried to make a story out of this clarity — and it’s a story of isolation (solipsism).
But here’s the thing:
1. You’re not alone. There just never was a separate “you” or “YOU” to begin with.
And never a separate “other” either, never a them to be apart from.
You don’t lose the cat. You don’t lose friends.
You just lose the belief that there’s a “you” here and a “them” over there.
So let’s go back to direct experience — right now:
When you hear a cat purring or feel its fur, is there truly two?
Or is it just one seamless event — sound, warmth, sensation, story — arising with no center?
What’s left is closer than closeness. Nothing’s missing. Nothing ever was.
It’s not “you” seeing clearly now.
It’s just clarity — happening, whole.
The sense of another was always part of the play — but never a separate entity.
It’s still here. Everything is. It’s just not divided anymore.
Drop the thought of being “the last one left.”
There never was one to begin with.
You didn’t lose anything. You just stopped imagining separation.

2. Where exactly is “here”?
Is “here” a location?
Is it in the body? Behind the eyes? Somewhere inside the chest?
Or is “here” just a thought, floating inside what’s appearing?
Without calling it anything — without touching a single thought — what’s really here?

If “here” has no center (just a word), and “others” are only ever arising within this —
then where could separation exist?

This isn’t solipsism.

Sit with this. But don’t analyze it.
Just look. Let it undo the last threads.

Love
Rali

[LoraBorealis]

Hi Rali,
Apologies for the minor delay.

Without referencing thought, without referencing memory, without imagining a next step, is there anything you are missing?

Without thought, I hear the birdsong and it feels like perfection. Complete.

What’s actually here, when you don’t touch a single thought about it?

Direct experiences prior to thoughts about them. But, even DE feels like thought now. So I would have to say something like "no-thing"

Can it stay without being watched?

It can stay, but I seem to want to keep an eye on it, so to speak.

What happens if you stop touching it completely?

It is still here, a quiet, still background

Without the thought “I AM,” what’s here?

No thing. Stillness

When you hear a cat purring or feel its fur, is there truly two?

I feel (my own) sensations and hear sounds so it is only awareness here and not two.

Or is it just one seamless event — sound, warmth, sensation, story — arising with no center?

One event without a center.

2. Where exactly is “here”?

Here feels like a place without time and location. The center of the unfolding. I always thought 'here' was behind my eyeballs but that feels limiting now.

Is “here” a location?

No

Is it in the body? Behind the eyes? Somewhere inside the chest?

It was sorta behind the eyes previously, but 'here' also seems like just a thought and it could be everywhere without a central location

Or is “here” just a thought, floating inside what’s appearing?

Yes exactly

Without calling it anything — without touching a single thought — what’s really here?

No thing. Unfolding.

If “here” has no center (just a word), and “others” are only ever arising within this —
then where could separation exist?

Only in thoughts

I'll sit with this. Thank you.
With much gratitude,
Laura

[poppyseed]

Hi Laura,
What you wrote is very clear. You’ve seen that “here” is not behind the eyes, not in the chest. You’ve seen that “I AM” is just another thought flicker. You’re not missing anything.
But notice this:

Here feels like a place without time and location. The center of the unfolding.

NB!!! Remember:
feels like, seems like = thought content
In DE all is pretty straight forward - either there or not
Look carefully:
If “here” has no location, how can it be a place? Is "here" a container of a sort?
If unfolding has a center — where exactly is it? Can you point to it, apart from a thought? Try pointing to "here". What exactly are you pointing at??
Does the unfolding itself ever stop to declare, “I have a center”? Or is that only a description after the fact?
Right now, drop the word “here.” Drop the idea of a “center.” Drop even “unfolding.”
What’s left, before those labels?
It doesn’t have a center. It doesn’t need one. It’s already whole.
Stay with that, raw and unpinned.

It can stay, but I want to keep an eye on it.

The sense that something must be guarded, monitored, kept intact…
So: who exactly is the one keeping watch?
Look for it. Right now.
When stillness is here, does it need a guard?
If no one checks on it, does it disappear?

Direct experience feels like thought now.

Good. Stay with that unease.
Can thought ever contaminate what’s already happening?
Or is “even this is thought” itself just… another thought, arising in what’s untouched?
Right now, drop the watcher. Drop the label “here.” Drop even “direct experience.”
What remains when nothing at all is held onto?
Don’t answer with a word. Don’t call it stillness, or no-thing, or awareness. Just sit naked with it.
That’s it.

I feel (my own) sensations and hear sounds so it is only awareness here and not two.

This sounds like coming from a teaching…This is just the self re-branding as “awareness.” A quieter mask, but still a mask. The good old “awareness”/ “consciousness” that is not a thing/an entity but is in charge of observing DE. It has describable properties - of being aware. It has an inherent exisence - existing in something as a permanent, essential, or characteristic attribute. Can anything like that be found in DE without the description? LOOK carefully:
Do you SEE two - awareness and experience? Where is the border that delineates where awareness is and where the seen, the heard, etc is? Is there “being aware of the seen” and “the seen” or that is just language? Can you see a separate awareness apart from the seen or there is just the seen - seen by nothing, just there, just IS? This “awareness”… does it show up as anything other than a thought/an abstraction about a subtle background? If it needs to be named or remembered, is it real at all?
Look closer.
Who owns sensations? Can you actually find an owner, or only sensation + a thought claiming “mine”? What exactly makes them “yours”??
Is there really an “I” that feels — or only feeling happening, with no feeler/no owner/no location?
Try this right now:
Drop “I.”
Drop “mine.”
Drop “awareness.”
What’s left?
Just this — without anyone feeling it, without anything behind it, without anything being aware of it. Just/only this, just IS-ness without a subject, without location, without limits
Let me know what shows up when you sit with that.
(By the way some languages do not have a compulsary subject - it can be omited)
Love
Rali

[LoraBorealis]

Hi Rali,
I responded to your email but I'm not seeing it posted anywhere. I'll check again, but I'm not finding it. I'll go through this again either tonight or tomorrow morning.
Best,
Laura

[LoraBorealis]

Hi Rali,
I'll go through this exercise again now (it couldn't hurt!):

If “here” has no location, how can it be a place? Is "here" a container of a sort?

Here is where direct experience is. I don't see a container nor do I see a specific location.

If unfolding has a center — where exactly is it? Can you point to it, apart from a thought? Try pointing to "here". What exactly are you pointing at??

Unfolding is here/everywhere without a center. Even the word 'unfolding' seems like a concept now.

Does the unfolding itself ever stop to declare, “I have a center”? Or is that only a description after the fact?

It does not declare anything, the "center" is only a description

What’s left, before those labels?

This flicker

So: who exactly is the one keeping watch?

I see no one to keep watch

Look for it. Right now.
When stillness is here, does it need a guard?

No

If no one checks on it, does it disappear?

No

Can thought ever contaminate what’s already happening?

No

Or is “even this is thought” itself just… another thought, arising in what’s untouched?

Just a thought arising in what is untouched

What remains when nothing at all is held onto?

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Can anything like that be found in DE without the description?

No, it is only an after-thought

Do you SEE two - awareness and experience? Where is the border that delineates where awareness is and where the seen, the heard, etc is?

It is only the seen, the heard, the sensation. This is clear.

Is there “being aware of the seen” and “the seen” or that is just language?

No, just the seen. This is clear

Can you see a separate awareness apart from the seen or there is just the seen - seen by nothing, just there, just IS?

Just the seen. by no thing. Just IS.

This “awareness”… does it show up as anything other than a thought/an abstraction about a subtle background? If it needs to be named or remembered, is it real at all?

I don't see an "awareness" just the DE.

Who owns sensations? Can you actually find an owner, or only sensation + a thought claiming “mine”? What exactly makes them “yours”??

No owner. Only sensation + thought.
What makes them "mine" is the body being seen. The arms having a fan blowing on them. The sensation of cool air + seeing the arms = thought "mine." "Mine" is a thought.

Is there really an “I” that feels — or only feeling happening, with no feeler/no owner/no location?

Feeling is happening. No feeler/owner, no location.

What’s left?

Zero.
Limitless no-thingness.
No one to see, no one to hear. Only cold metal of a singing bowl. No hand, no bowl.
I would like to continue to sit with this...
Hah! No "I" - only meditation. Sitting will happen.

Thank you,
Laura

[poppyseed]

Hi Laura,
This is crystal clear:
No owner of sensations. No watcher of stillness. No “awareness” apart from the seen, heard, felt. No center, no location, no container.
Just this, without anyone behind it.

Zero. Limitless no-thingness. No one to see, no one to hear. Only cold metal of a singing bowl.

Exactly. The bowl, the cool air, the flicker of thought — already whole. No one apart.
Now look one step deeper:
Is there anywhere — anywhere at all — that a “Laura” exists outside of thought?
Was there ever?
When you say “sitting will happen” — yes. That’s it. It all happens by itself. The “I” was only ever an afterthought pasted on top.
So here’s the final check:
Is there a separate entity — self, me, I — anywhere in experience?
Can you find one making choices, owning sensations, keeping watch, or being aware?
Or has it always only been a story?

Sit with this. Not as meditation, not as a practice — just see what’s left when every layer of “I” is burned away.

Here is an exercise which reinforces this. Pay attention to any sensation i.e. is there any tightening, or any relaxing?

For the first ten minutes write down what you are experiencing right now using the word “I”. For example:
I am sitting on a chair,
I am hearing a clock ticking,
I am looking at a computer screen,
I am feeling hungry.

Get right to the point, no past or future fantasy, just a plain description of your experience right here and now.

Then for the next ten minutes continue writing down what you are experiencing but this time without using the word “I”. Just describe the experience as it is happening using verbs. For example:
Sitting on a chair,
typing,
breathing,
blinking,
hearing the clock.

(Again, watch what is happening in DE)
At the end of the twenty minutes compare the two ways in which the experience was labelled and answer the following four questions:
1. Is one truer than the other, and If so, which one?
2. What is here without labels?
3. Do labels affect the experience or just describe it?
4. Did you notice any differences in DE (sensations, etc)?
Love
Rali

[LoraBorealis]

Hi Rali,

Is there anywhere — anywhere at all — that a “Laura” exists outside of thought?

There is no "Laura" outside of thought

Was there ever?

I see no evidence there was a past "Laura"

Is there a separate entity — self, me, I — anywhere in experience?

No separate self, just direct experience of sound, color/shape, sensation

Can you find one making choices, owning sensations, keeping watch, or being aware?

Choices are made, sensations are felt. There is no 'one' or 'awareness' keeping watch that I can find.

Or has it always only been a story?

It has always been a story/thought.

is there any tightening, or any relaxing?

There is a tightness in general this morning, but some of these observations bring an openness/relaxing.

1. Is one truer than the other, and If so, which one?

Direct experience is immediate and more true. All else is thought overlay

2. What is here without labels?

Direct experience. The cool breeze, the smell of coffee, standing, hearing traffic.

3. Do labels affect the experience or just describe it?

Labels describe the experience as an after-thought

4. Did you notice any differences in DE (sensations, etc)?

The traffic noises, the smell of coffee, the cool breeze seem more acute, intense, stripped down to their basic Is-ness.

Thank you,
Laura

[poppyseed]

Hi Laura,
Yesterday was so busy I could not squeeze a reply. But YAY!
Crystal clear. Beautiful. You’ve seen through the last disguise — no “Laura” outside of thought, no one keeping watch, no hidden awareness behind the seen.
Now, the only thing left is integration — noticing this in ordinary, everyday life. Let’s check:
Decision, choice, control
When you pick up your coffee, choose clothes, or reply to an email — can you find a “you” deciding? Or do thoughts just describe what already happened?

Responsibility
In your daily interactions — at work, with friends — who is responsible? Can you find anyone making it happen, or is it just causes and conditions flowing?

Doing
When walking, is there a walker? Or just feet moving, scenery shifting? When speaking, is there a speaker, or just words arising?

Others
When you interact with someone, can you actually find a “them,” apart from sensations, sounds, and thought labels? How does that show up in real time?

Then vs now
Looking back over the past week — what feels different since seeing through the self? What feels exactly the same?

Give me concrete examples from your day-to-day. The more ordinary the better.
This is how the clarity goes from being something glimpsed in quiet moments to something lived, unshakeable, even when traffic’s loud, the inbox is full, or the cat knocks something off the counter.
Also check…
Is there still seeking, looking for the reward at “the end of the road”?
Any confusion? Can you say with a big fat YES, it is clear what the illusion of a separate self is?
Love
Rali

[LoraBorealis]

Hi Rali,

Can you find a “you” deciding? Or do thoughts just describe what already happened?

I picked up my chai to taste it for this question and what arose was "I should test this by tasting my chai" and then "look, I decided to taste the chai before I picked it up! this can't be no self" and then, of course, the realization that the wheels were already in motion and picking up the chai was the very LAST step in a series of thoughts/conditions that had no "I". Even the thoughts of the thoughts are thoughts.

Responsibility

In your daily interactions — at work, with friends — who is responsible? Can you find anyone making it happen, or is it just causes and conditions flowing?

I have been testing this continuously the past few days: all just causes and conditions. There is no "one" controlling it all.

Doing

When walking, is there a walker? Or just feet moving, scenery shifting? When speaking, is there a speaker, or just words arising?

Feet moving, scenery shifting, breeze sensations, sounds arising, words arising. I also find that I have to shift my perspective but it is a very quick shift from feeling like an "I" to feeling everything as a DE with causes and conditions. It is really just a thought that goes poof!

Others

When you interact with someone, can you actually find a “them,” apart from sensations, sounds, and thought labels? How does that show up in real time?

I am keenly aware that everyone around me is a series of DEs. In real time it shows up with thoughts arising like "woah, Laura could reach out and touch Kelly but it is all only DE." There is a lot more silence waiting to see what arises without thinking "I" have to "do" anything.

Then vs now

Looking back over the past week — what feels different since seeing through the self? What feels exactly the same?

It feels like everything needs to still gel but there is a lot more ease. I certainly understand the non-dual teachers a heck of a lot more now. There is a tendency to still use the word "I" out of habit which I imagine is appropriate. There is more allowing, less need to control since there is no "I" to push an agenda. Driving (carefully) still happens, getting money out of the ATM happens, safety and health self-care is exactly the same. It feels like a shift in perspective.

Is there still seeking, looking for the reward at “the end of the road”?

The seeking is greatly diminished. Is it 100% gone?...hmmm...I am not sure about that. The "end of the road" is non-existent and just a thought. There is only ever this.

Any confusion? Can you say with a big fat YES, it is clear what the illusion of a separate self is?

No confusion. YES the illusion has been seen.

Thank you for taking the time to assist with this. It has been an honor.
With much gratitude.
Laura

[poppyseed]

Hi Laura
This is beautiful. Crystal clear:
No decider — just conditions unfolding.
No doer — just walking, talking, typing, breathing.
No owner — just sensations and thoughts labeled “mine.”
No others apart from DE.
And most important: no self has ever been found, anywhere, in any way.

No confusion. YES the illusion has been seen.

Great! Here are some checkpoint questions to see if we’ve missed anything. Please answer all questions in full, when you are ready. Please answer ​what's true for you at the moment rather than any sort of 'ideal' answer
1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.

3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

5) Describe decision & give examples from experience.

Describe intention & give examples from experience.

Describe free will & give examples from experience.

Describe choice & give examples from experience.

Describe control & give examples from experience.

What makes things happen? How does it work?

What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.

6) Anything to add?
Love
Rali

[LoraBorealis]

Hi Rali,

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

There is nothing separate, including a 'self' or 'me." Nor could there ever have been a self separate from This.

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.

The illusion of a separate self started from childhood the moment I was told that those are "your hands," "your eyes," "your spoon," "your toys." It occurs when I wake up each morning and re-create the "Laura" from thoughts and put on my mask to go to work. The separate self mask is reinforced by others in the workplace on a continual basis. However, the separate "I" does not exist and has no control, there is no separate self doing, efforting, or making choices. Labeling reinforces a separate self from others, who are simply direct experiences.

Above all else, these are all only memory-thoughts and the only thing that exists now is the bird song, the sound of my refrigerator, the shape-colors of my hands on a keyboard, while typing is happening and thoughts and labels are occurring. A separate "Laura" is thought after thought with a dash of thought on top.

3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.

It feels like a huge relief. There was one who was desperate to control outcomes who believed better choices could have been made. However, the choices were not 'made' because it unfolded the way it did based on conditions. There is no "Laura" who is responsible for the choices or outcomes.

Hiking happens, birdsong is heard, leaves wiggle and the sun shimmers on the water in the bay. It feels easier to be quiet and calm as I watch how it unfolds without having to try to control everything, or anything. Without labeling, the mystery unfolds continually with a sense of awe. I drop back into "I" thoughts fairly frequently but there is much hope that this clarifies further as the additional fetters are seen.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

Are you asking what pushed me into this final set of questions? If so, I'd have to say the gradual questioning was perfect and led me to the point where the last set of questions about seeing/using the sentences without a subject "I" clarified the lingering confusion. Breathing is happening, typing is happening, thoughts are happening. That really gels.

5) Describe decision & give examples from experience.

Decision is cause and conditioning. For example, "I" would like to think that I, Laura, chose the place where I live but it was a series of events that happened over the course of years. There was no "Laura" here controlling when people showed up in my life that knew other people with a sweet housing situation near the eventual place I would work. It could not have been any other way.

Describe intention & give examples from experience.

Intention. I don't remember reviewing this word so I'll wing it. Intention would be a thought of trying to control the conditions of experience. "I intend to take out the trash to the curbside bin" assumes there is an "I" that makes a choice and needs to do something; not a doing happening. Intention comes from a separate self.

Describe free will & give examples from experience.

Free will cannot exist because that would assume a separate self 'deciding' something. Free will states that it is "Laura" who chooses to drink this Earl Grey tea instead of coffee or that "Laura" chose to work at a university but there is no "Laura" to choose and this is all an unfolding series of events without a separate self making the choices.

Describe choice & give examples from experience.

Choice is cause and conditions as in Decision-making. The choice is allegedly made 6 seconds before a person cognizes that they are making a choice, thus illustrating that there was never a fork-in-the-road choice switch. It is an unfolding.

Describe control & give examples from experience.

Control is the belief that the separate self is steering This or some aspect of This. I had this discussion last week with a lawyer friend who vehemently opposed me. I think the fact that he saw there is no homunculus driving his meat suit and "cause/conditions" made a decent case, though the jury is still out for him. My example from experience: I can't use my cats as an example because, well, cats. I could say that I tried to control the dates of my last trip but all of the conditions that went into the dates being chosen I had no control over.

What makes things happen? How does it work?

Life unfolds the way it unfolds by the conditions present. "This" is a complete mystery.

What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.

There is no "Laura" apart from This to be responsible for anything. Moving towards love, working through the 10 fetters, and letting go of thoughts seem like good things to do, if you can call that a responsibility.

6) Anything to add?

Nothing to add except a huge thank you!

With gratitude,
Laura

[poppyseed]

Hi Laura,
Thank you for your thoughtful, detailed answers. They’re clear and very grounded — it’s obvious you’ve been looking closely and directly.
The next step in this process is simple: I’ll be passing your responses along to the other guides. This isn’t because anything is missing or wrong — it’s just part of how we double-check clarity. Sometimes another guide will spot something subtle or bring in a fresh angle that helps confirm things fully.
So you may get some additional questions. These are not “tests” or hoops to jump through, but invitations to look even more deeply and confirm what’s already seen.
You’ve done beautifully. Now let’s let the team take a look and see if there’s anything more to bring out.
Love
Rali

[LoraBorealis]

Thanks so much, Rali. That sounds perfect and right : )
Very best,
Laura

[poppyseed]

Hi Laura
Welcome home!

It appears that the Gateless Gate has been crossed, but as you know there is no Gate, no one to cross it, and no end to the journey. It has been such a pleasure to walk beside you! Your openness and willingness to look were simply awesome and made guiding you a joy. Of course it is not necessarily the end of our conversation.

There have been no more questions for you, which means that you will receive an email notifying you of a PM from the forum, inviting you to join LU's Facebook groups. It also has other information that might be of interest to you. I will inbox you my contact details if you want to stay in touch. If you have any questions, just ask, or you can drop a line on your thread here and I will respond.

Your username will change from green to blue. This thread will be moved to the ‘Archive’ section of the forum, but you will be able to access it.

Please don’t forget that this is just the beginning of exploring. It’s the beginning of cleaning up of all sorts of old beliefs. Emotions and feelings can show up to be seen and felt, so don’t stop looking! Please feel free to contact me, so we can have a look together, if you like. From here, it’s about living this clarity out. The mind may still toss up “I” stories, but they’re weightless. Thoughts, like traffic noise — there, but not binding.
So stay ordinary. Hike, sip tea, go to work, laugh, argue, rest. It all keeps happening — but without the fiction of a doer.
And when the old reflex flickers — don’t fight it. Just notice: another story, gone before it lands.
That’s it. That’s all.

You can also consider being a guide, if you’re willing to explore it, when you feel ready. It can be very rewarding and it help you deepen your understanding.

We have a couple of support groups that are meeting via teleconference, which you will be able to access once your name has turned blue, join in any group discussions on FB, or make use of LU online support groups run by senior guides free of charge.

There are three of those, and they meet on Zoom – do contact the organisers for extra info, links and schedules:
1) Vince runs one on Wednesdays and weekends. Contact: vinceschubert@gmail.com
2) Luchana and Lubo run one on Thursdays. Contact: Luchana at luchanauzunova@gmail.com
3) Ilona holds a monthly meeting. Contact: admin@ilonaciunaite.com

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You can also explore the ten Fetters, which is a structured way of approaching beliefs:
Kevin Shinilac has instructions on his site https://www.simplytheseen.com/

Pernille Damore and Todd Lent https://www.youtube.com/@TheAwakeningCurriculum

Love
Rali

[LoraBorealis]

Thank you so much, Rali.
It has been very special to work with you. Your guidance is impeccable!

Please don’t forget that this is just the beginning of exploring. It’s the beginning of cleaning up of all sorts of old beliefs. Emotions and feelings can show up to be seen and felt, so don’t stop looking! Please feel free to contact me, so we can have a look together, if you like. From here, it’s about living this clarity out. The mind may still toss up “I” stories, but they’re weightless. Thoughts, like traffic noise — there, but not binding.
So stay ordinary. Hike, sip tea, go to work, laugh, argue, rest. It all keeps happening — but without the fiction of a doer.
And when the old reflex flickers — don’t fight it. Just notice: another story, gone before it lands.
That’s it. That’s all.

Yes, thank you, I am aware that this is just Fetter 1 of many. I found LU from Todd and Pernille's Awakening Curriculum so I'll continue with the next fetters on their platform. I don't have Facebook so I'll look to the other options you kindly provided.

I definitely feel I am ordinary, noticing the stories, thoughts. I can't thank you enough and am so grateful to you and the time you took to point. I may indeed reach out again :)

With much gratitude,
Laura