Great, Is there still seeking?One thing "I" have noticed though is that I am less concerned about how things turn out or go/flow going forward. I can see that thoughts happen, things happen and there is no me in charge of any of it.
Thank you for reaching out. I have had family staying and we have been traveling but now life is back to normal and I would like to continue.Are you still on the forum?
I am trying to look more at my opinions and everyday experiences. I don't know if this is considered "still seeking".Great, Is there still seeking?
You are much welcome. I wish you happy days in the new country.Thank you for reaching out. I have had family staying and we have been traveling but now life is back to normal and I would like to continue.
What is this "I" trying to look?I am trying to look more at my opinions and everyday experiences. I don't know if this is considered "still seeking".
What are you expecting to happen when you watch them?I watch Rupert Spira and Bernard Kastrup sometimes and find their input helpful.
What is this "I" which is more relaxed?I am generally more relaxed about the future even though we are about to move country.
Glad to read this.Knowing "I" am not controlling it all is helpful. Just trusting how it unfolds.
I am trying to look more at my opinions and everyday experiences. I don't know if this is considered "still seeking".
I guess it's more about noticing ideas that the false sense of "I" held or still hold.What is this "I" trying to look?
They were the opinions that I developed over time as I grew up.Are they your opinions ?
The false sense that there is an" I" running things.What is this me to which opinions belong?
Nothing new except becoming aware that they are part of the previous idea of a separate "I".What is expected to be found anew in opinions and everyday experiences?
Nothing. Things are just happening.What is missing right here right now?
I watch Rupert Spira and Bernard Kastrup sometimes and find their input helpful.
I'm not expecting anything to happen when I watch them. It's to do with noticing when old patterns of "I" belief arise.What are you expecting to happen when you watch them?
I am generally more relaxed about the future even though we are about to move country.
It's so hard to get rid of using the "I" word. There is less dwelling on or thinking worrying thoughts about the so called "Future" and calmer body feelings/sensations. When thoughts come up that deal with fears of the future noticing happens.What is this "I" which is more relaxed?
No there is only now.Is there a future outside of thoughts?
No there is no separate self.1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
The separate self starts at a really young age and is fostered by the way parents and others speak to the child. Comments like "this is your hat, toy bed" etc. The child starts to think of itself as a separate being. As they grow they start to form ideas about themself and build up this false idea of who they are, what they like, what kind of person they are etc.2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.
It feels fine and completely right. The difference is that it's easier to see that ideas and thoughts about "myself" and "my life" are not real and that gives freedom .3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.
I have known that thoughts were not necessarily true for many years and that thoughts could actually be entirely wrong. Things learnt in childhood gave rise to thoughts and ideas about "oneself". These thoughts were built up by experiences, actions and comments usually made by other people and that were taken and believed. Once I heard the idea that there was no separate self and started looking I couldn't find this separate self and everything made sense. I could also see that the body just did things on it's own without "me" or a separate self, doing anything or making it happen.4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?
Once I started looking it just seemed to become obvious. I don't recall it being a very definite sudden shift.Here is a second part of the question 4)
4) What was the last bit that pushed you over; made you look? Was there a moment of shift with a distinct before and after?
Decisions just happen. I find I act spontaneously before I have actually made a decision. It's most clear to me when I am lying in bed in the morning and thinking about getting up, then suddenly I get up. I'm not aware of having made the decision to get up, it just happens. The body just does things all the time without me making any decisions. Everything just happens.Describe decision,
Intention is a thought that arrives. After this the decision of whether to act on it just happens.intention,
There is no free will. What happens is influenced by genes, upbringing, life condition, mental conditions and awareness.free will,
If there is no separate self how can there be control. Choice and control just happen based on preferences built into the false personal concept we have built up over time.choice and control.
We are all interconnected. There are so many things/events coming together to make things happen. We have no control on any of this. Meeting new people for instance. We have to be in the same place at the same time and so many prior events need to happen to make this event even occur. All of life is like this.What makes things happen? How does it work? Give examples from experience.
I found this question hard. If there is no free will then I am not responsible for anything I do however personal awareness must come into this. As awareness increases surely responses change.What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.
This is around us all the time. Everything we do effects other people and they affect us. We have no control over that. One example, weather happens and effects crops, crops die and people don't have enough to eat, they rise up and overturn governments. Nothing happens in isolation everything that happens affects everything else.1) How does "we are all interconnected" show up in experience?
As an individual starts to look into the created false self identity built up over their life and see that this is not who they really are, they may become aware of things they are doing as a result of these false ideas and become more conscious, and begin to act with more awareness.2)"If there is no free will then I am not responsible for anything I do however personal awareness must come into this. As awareness increases surely responses change."
What is "personal awareness" and how can it increase so the responses change?
You are far away from direct experience. From what is said above, the existence of an individual is assumed. Have you seen really that there is no you, no Susark, no individual, no person?As an individual starts to look into the create d false self identity built up over their life and see that this is not who they really are,
Awareness, being aware is shining before the beginning of the seeking, during the seeking and at the end of the seeking. There is nothing to add to it. It is already whole and complete. It does not make sense to say "more conscious" or "more awareness". The clue is to see through the thoughts, through the veils. Thoughts are like clouds veiling the sun. Without the sun, clouds cannot be seen. The sun is the same when there are clouds, when there are no clouds. There is no more to add to the sun. The change of perspective opens when thoughts are seen as objects, when Susark and the stories about Susark are seen as objects.they may become aware of things they are doing as a result of these false ideas and become more conscious, and begin to act with more awareness.
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