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Re: Intro

Postby wellspring » Wed Jan 22, 2025 8:14 am

How are you feeling now?
I am currently visiting Hawaii with my family so we spent the day in the ocean and then had dinner together. I am preparing for bed.

At this moment, I’m looking at my phone and turning my attention to what I’m noticing other than thoughts. Kind of a warm vibration is what is noticed/felt. When the eyes are closed, there is no boundary to the experience. And no separate self is apparent. There is an inner feeling that is associated with myself but when explored it is seen to be no more than a thought that fades when noticed as an object of awareness. So just a warm vibration with a gentle sense of kindness or love.

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Re: Intro

Postby Lubo » Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:17 pm

Mmm, so nice to see through the script.
yes, thoughts and sensations are imagined center.
Is there real center running the show?

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Re: Intro

Postby wellspring » Thu Jan 23, 2025 9:24 pm

Is there real center running the show?
When I look for a real center, I can’t find one. However, I am so familiar with the I thoughts that I associate with an I, that I go through life unconsciously believing in an I associated with the I thoughts at the center of my being. I have had experiences that have lasted for hours while doing Douglas Harding experiments where the I completely disappeared and there was initially the sense of a bottom falling out later, a sense of lightness and openess.

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Re: Intro

Postby Lubo » Fri Jan 24, 2025 4:11 pm

Ok. There is thoughts about an I, and this is not a problem.
let's see where is the problem
What does this thought point to?
Something that is suffering, that is not free - these are my suggestions,
Notice gently what are yours?

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Re: Intro

Postby wellspring » Fri Jan 24, 2025 6:57 pm

The I thoughts are linked to my self story which often might relate to something I want and am not getting or are just a rolling commentary on my ongoing experience.

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Re: Intro

Postby Lubo » Fri Jan 24, 2025 7:35 pm

You are doing well.
linked to my self story
there is a story, yes.
Now check "self" what is that?
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Re: Intro

Postby wellspring » Mon Jan 27, 2025 7:41 pm

Sorry for the delayed response. I forgot my username and it took awhile to get back on the site.

“Self” is just the cluster of thoughts that feels like a dialogue with someone in my mind. That someone is interpreted to be the self. So the ongoing dialogue keeps alive the delusion that a self is present and real. When I focus on consciousness rather than the objects of consciousness, no self is found. There is just a seemingly infinite field of silence with no separation between that which is aware and experience. All seems to be one.

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Re: Intro

Postby Lubo » Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:35 pm

All seems to be one.
YES!
Now say "Hmmm" who is doing that,
Who is here?

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Re: Intro

Postby wellspring » Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:35 pm

Who is doing that?
It just seems the the cluster of I thoughts which contribute to an ongoing dialogue continue to maintain an illusion of a self. And there is a kind of felt sense associated with those thoughts which persists as welll. When explored closely, no I is found.

What is challenging is that I’m on vacation with my family and I have limited time alone for these explorations. There are many distractions that keep my mind focused away from this realm.

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Re: Intro

Postby Lubo » Fri Jan 31, 2025 7:07 pm

When explored closely, no I is found.
SO you are not this imagined I.
Now keep doing this Hmmm or Ommm
repeat it many times, just to check again and again that you are here!
And you are not:
the body,
thoughts,
or any mental constructs called I/me!

When thoughts arise, just say Hmmmm or Ommm, to reclaim your place from thoughts.

Do this until crystal-clear seeing comes—that you are the real one, that you are not the body, that other bodies are also not someone, and that you don’t know who or what you are.

and when you see that write to me for final guidance.
I can guide you, but only you can see it.

Can you do this for yourself?

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Re: Intro

Postby wellspring » Fri Jan 31, 2025 7:27 pm

So, to be clear, continue this process without contacting you daily?

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Re: Intro

Postby Lubo » Sat Feb 01, 2025 9:57 am

Mm, it is better to share what is going on during the day.

I will support you, I will walk with you ❤️
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Re: Intro

Postby wellspring » Wed Feb 05, 2025 1:57 am

Just returned from vacation.

The honest truth is that I don’t devote enough attention to this process. I get caught up in the activities of daily living and don’t prioritize this process. Consistent feedback from realized beings seems to be that there needs to strong desire marked by commitment to the process for realization to occur.

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Re: Intro

Postby Lubo » Wed Feb 05, 2025 2:01 pm

Yes and No,
The shift is so natural.
You need only 1 sec.
Do you want to try with me this very second?
If Yes notice the shift of perception with that:

Look around - with the message: "🔹 God alone IS (now), and this is what arises in Him."

- ?


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Re: Intro

Postby wellspring » Sun Feb 09, 2025 2:30 am

Consistently, when I shift focus to consciousness and not objects of consciousness, there is a vast field of silent peacefulness. There are no boundaries. It begins to become the foreground and objects of consciousness simply swim within it and don’t quite hook the mind as readily as before I started focusing on consciousness.


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