No seekingAre you content with what is going here or there is still seeking?
conformationWhat has changed from the beginning of our dialog?
noIs there something missing?
yesCan you say with a big fat YES that there is no separate self in any shape or form, there never was, there never will be?
I can't find a separate self when I look. There isn't the realization that there never was, but I don't believe there ever was1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
It seems to start when you believe thought and mistake "yourself" for the I/Me2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.
It doesn't feel any way to "see this" The difference is more "looking" and knowing "I''m" on the right track3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.
There is no last bit that pushed me over and made me look. It's a seeming progressive thing of lifelong discomfort and knowing there was something other than whatever this "life" is4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?
For "me" there seems to be a choice to engage in thought, to "fight" what is happening. If the "me" where to say get cancer.... you could fight against/choose to be a victim/believe thoughts or just not fight actual experience5) Describe decision,
intention,
free will,
choice and control
I don't knowWhat makes things happen? How does it work? Give examples from experience.
I don't knowWhat are you responsible for? Give examples from experience
What seems to be happening. There appears to be an experience of waking up in the AM and sitting while remembering what is "going on" going into sensations and what is direct experience. then all throughout day seems to be about being aware of experience and noticing when "I" get sucked into thought and going back to sensations/direct experience.. all day and all night6) Anything to add?
I can't find a separate self when I look.
It is not about a belief, it is about 100 % certainty.There isn't the realization that there never was, but I don't believe there ever was.
Just experience• Is there a “you” that is having the experience, or is there just experience happening without a central "owner" of it?
experience/experiencing• Strip away every mental and conceptual label (like "I", "me", "this", "that", etc.). What remains when all descriptions are gone?
No• Can you find the "you" that is separate from the thoughts and feelings?
being/experince• What is happening right now, in this moment, without any interpretation or judgment?
it just happens• Is there anyone or anything truly in control of what happens in your life, or does life unfold without a central controller?
there is no control• Can you pinpoint where control comes from, or if it even exists?
There is no awareness of an I• What happens to the "I" when you are fully absorbed in an activity (like playing music, dancing, or deeply focused work)?
They seem to arise from nowhere and go back to nowhere• Are thoughts something you create consciously, or do they arise spontaneously and leave just as quickly? Where do they come from and where do they go once they’ve left?
Time just seems to appear in the mind that believes in past and future. No you can't experience "life" without the thought/s of past and future• Is time something that is real and separate, or is it just a mental construct that appears in the mind? Can you directly experience life without the mental overlay of past and future?
Time just seems to appear in the mind that believes in past and future.
Life is experienced without a single thought : look at babies, at animals, ...No you can't experience "life" without the thought/s of past and future
Good question, I don't know for sure. When awareness/Self is still somehow tangled in the "I" thoughtWhat do you mean by mind ?
NoCan a thought "I" have beliefs?
It seems like nothing, but thoughts/beliefs appear that the "you" in this question has more conditioning that it's seemingly letting go of (even though it's a thought)What is the difference between a baby who does not know his name and you?
What is meant by seeing? it seems like the "body" sees through the head space.Where are you seeing from?
No, it seems there are just thoughts... awareness of thoughts. I don't know when the belief began or ended.Was there a separate self in any shape or form which is managing life? For whom experiences are happening?
If it is YES : please describe it for me?
If it is NO : when did the belief in a separate self begin and when did this belief fall down (if it is the case) ?
no, but I don't know anything reallyCan you be unaware?
no, there appear to be thoughts, feelings and emotions, but not a you/me/IIs there a you, something outside of awareness?
What is aware of the thoughts, feelings, and emotions that appear?no, there appear to be thoughts, feelings and emotions, but not a you/me/I
I amWhat is aware of the thoughts, feelings, and emotions that appear?
NoCan thoughts or feelings exist without awareness of them?
No, just awarenessIn the moment of seeing, hearing, or experiencing, can you find a separate 'you' that is doing the perceiving? Or is there just awareness of what is happening?
Only experienceIs there an experiencer who is having the experience, or is experience simply happening on its own? Can an experiencer be found?
There is no separate you only awarenessWhat happens to the sense of a separate 'you' when you stop labeling thoughts, feelings, and perceptions? Is there still a separate 'you'?
Is there a you, a separate self watching thoughts OR is there only being aware (= awareness) of thoughts?While watching thoughts. I sometimes ask, What or who is aware of thought?, What are thoughts??? Where am I???
only awareness of thoughtsIs there a you, a separate self watching thoughts OR is there only being aware (= awareness) of thoughts?
YesThe experience shows thatpeaking? there is no who watching, do you SEE this truth?
No it just happeningIs there a who or a what raining? or making the heart beating, or walking or thinking or speaking?
NoIs there a you, a who seeing, hearing, feeling sensations?
no thing/nothing. whatever is before thoughtWhat are you without a single thought?
I don't knowIs there still awareness without a single thought?
If I type it's not it.What are you exactly without a single thought?
there's awareness of sensation not a faceAre you aware of the sensations of your face?
Are you still aware when your face is on anesthesia (at the dentist for example)?
awareness of thoughtsAre you the one who thinks OR there is just awareness of thoughts coming from nowhere?
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