The end of confusion

[warissem]

Good morning

It's not that there is seeking for something, it's more that there is wanting to be good, to become good. If I say there is no one here seeking, I fear that I will not want to be good anymore.

Do you see that your answer is far away from direct experience : seeing, hearing, smelling, tasting, touching or sensations ?
Do you see that your answer is a train of thoughts containing an "I" which is wanting to be good?

About the seeking, I invite you to watch this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t81Cv5_5NO8

Best wishes

[Whatisreal]

Good morning,

Do you see that your answer is far away from direct experience : seeing, hearing, smelling, tasting, touching or sensations ?
Do you see that your answer is a train of thoughts containing an "I" which is wanting to be good?

Yes I can see that.

About the seeking, I invite you to watch this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t81Cv5_5NO8

I watched the video. The answer that came for "What am I looking for?" is "A home". I am looking for a home.
"What am I running away from, what I do not want to experience?" is "Being separate".

To go back to your question, who is seeking?
The body isn't seeking for a home.
Awareness isn't seeking for a home.
I find that the mind (or this thinking) is seeking for a home. It is restless. It doesn't feel welcome here. In this body. It believes it needs to change, to become good, before it is welcomed here. It is looking for ways to become good so that it will be welcomed here in this body. It cannot just be disregarded. It won't go away.

I feel this is not going the way you expect me to. Do you have any other way to support me in this? It doesn't feel kind to try and disregard the mind that is looking for a home.

[warissem]

Hi

Yes, I see where you are at.
You are already at home but you don't acknowledge it.

I invite you to look at what is here now : sights, sounds, smells, tastes, sensations, thoughts. Check it for yourself.

There is the knowing (being aware) of sights, sounds, smells, tastes, sensations, thoughts : do you agree till here?

Home is this knowing (being aware). Is there an effort needed to be at home, to be aware?
Is there something to attain to be aware ?

Best for you

[Whatisreal]

Good morning,

There is the knowing (being aware) of sights, sounds, smells, tastes, sensations, thoughts : do you agree till here?

Yes

Home is this knowing (being aware). Is there an effort needed to be at home, to be aware?
Is there something to attain to be aware ?

No. Yet I still believe my thoughts which causes me suffering. It causes me to show up with people in a way I don't want to show up. What would you suggest not to believe my thoughts?

[warissem]

Good morning

No. Yet I still believe my thoughts which causes me suffering. It causes me to show up with people in a way I don't want to show up. What would you suggest not to believe my thoughts?

Have you practiced the exercise about thoughts?
If so, are they YOUR thoughts?
If not, go back to the exercise.

Is there a you, a separate self, noticing thoughts, hearing this "voice in the head"?
Ponder on this question all along the day.

Best for you

[Whatisreal]

Hi Warissem,

Have you practiced the exercise about thoughts?
If so, are they YOUR thoughts?
If not, go back to the exercise.

My thoughts or not, I believe them. How to stop believing them?

Is there a you, a separate self, noticing thoughts, hearing this "voice in the head"?
Ponder on this question all along the day.

I will continue to ponder this.

[warissem]

Hi

My thoughts or not, I believe them. How to stop believing them?

What (to not say who) is noticing the thoughts? OR what is aware of thoughts?
WHO or WHAT is believing thoughts?
How does a belief in thoughts work?

LOOK AT what is going on before giving the answers.

About believing thoughts :
Watch the thoughts as they arise and as they go,
Then write down some of the thoughts
Read loudly each written thought and SEE if it is true or silly
Check the written thoughts to what is here now.

I wish it will help.

[Whatisreal]

Hi,
Can I continue with you on the looking or do I need to ask for a guide again?

Awareness is noticing thoughts. Awareness is aware of thoughts.
I am believing thoughts. It seems that the belief in thoughts is automatic. When they appear, they appear as though they’re true. It’s like a programme.

When I read the thoughts, I believe they’re true. What I notice is that they’re in opposition with reality. “I” know better than reality how things should be.

What is here now is awareness of thoughts, images and sensations. It doesn’t seem enough, there is stress and tension in the body from the thoughts. This is getting interesting. If I leave out the “I” the it’s a happening. Thoughts come and the body reacts with tightness in the throat and stomach, clenching of the teeth and tge awareness notices this. Now it seems as though awareness is separate from these happenings. Now the mind says “Should I just keep observing like this until there is a direct seeing” but that would involce time and an apparent future that never comes. What would you suggest next?

[warissem]

Good evening

Can I continue with you on the looking or do I need to ask for a guide again?

No worry, you can continue here.

Awareness is noticing thoughts. Awareness is aware of thoughts.

Yes. Let's say it like this : there is awareness of thoughts. There is no separation between thoughts and the knowing (being aware) of them : do you see this?

I am believing thoughts. It seems that the belief in thoughts is automatic. When they appear, they appear as though they’re true. It’s like a programme.

Is there someone "speaking" the thoughts? Is there a thinker?
Can a thought know something?
Does a thought make a distinction between truth and false?

When I read the thoughts, I believe they’re true. What I notice is that they’re in opposition with reality. “I” know better than reality how things should be.

What is this "I" which is believing? Describe it for me.

What is here now is awareness of thoughts, images and sensations. It doesn’t seem enough, there is stress and tension in the body from the thoughts. This is getting interesting. If I leave out the “I” the it’s a happening. Thoughts come and the body reacts with tightness in the throat and stomach, clenching of the teeth and tge awareness notices this. Now it seems as though awareness is separate from these happenings. Now the mind says “Should I just keep observing like this until there is a direct seeing” but that would involce time and an apparent future that never comes. What would you suggest next?

There is awareness of the five senses appearances : sights, sounds, sensations, smells and tastes.
There is awareness of the thoughts, feelings and emotions.
Here now, there is no separation between the knowing and the known.
All there is, is here now. There is no more to it. All expectations about "something" to see or to happen, are just thoughts stories happening now. Do you expect to see more than that is here now in the future? There is no future outside of thoughts. There is no truth to find more than what is here now. LOOK AT what is here now without using a single word and let me know what is found.

Best for you

[Whatisreal]

Hello,

Thank you for continuing with me.

Yes. Let's say it like this : there is awareness of thoughts. There is no separation between thoughts and the knowing (being aware) of them : do you see this?

No, I don’t see that. I see thoughts as happening in awareness and separate, like the furniture are separate from the room.

Is there someone "speaking" the thoughts? Is there a thinker?

When you ask if there’s someone speaking the thoughts, the reply comes, yes M… (my name). M is tied to I, which is same to me. Now as I sit with it, it’s seen that who I believe I am is a thought or a bundle of thoughts. Am I just a thought? No, I’m the one watching, looking.

Can a thought know something?

No

Does a thought make a distinction between truth and false?

No.

What is this "I" which is believing? Describe it for me.

It seems like a trance. The believing seems to be just a happening. I can’t find someone. It’s like a programme, a computer programme which runs on its own.

There is awareness of the five senses appearances : sights, sounds, sensations, smells and tastes.
There is awareness of the thoughts, feelings and emotions.
Here now, there is no separation between the knowing and the known.
All there is, is here now. There is no more to it. All expectations about "something" to see or to happen, are just thoughts stories happening now. Do you expect to see more than that is here now in the future? There is no future outside of thoughts. There is no truth to find more than what is here now. LOOK AT what is here now without using a single word and let me know what is found.

There’s only awareness being aware of everything.

[warissem]

Good evening

No, I don’t see that. I see thoughts as happening in awareness and separate, like the furniture are separate from the room.

If "room" means walls, ground and ceiling, yes furniture are separate from the walls or ceiling. Are furniture separate from the space of the room?
Are thoughts separate from awareness of them? If it is so where is the line separating them?
Is a tree separate from awareness of it? LOOK

When you ask if there’s someone speaking the thoughts, the reply comes, yes M… (my name). M is tied to I, which is same to me. Now as I sit with it, it’s seen that who I believe I am is a thought or a bundle of thoughts. Am I just a thought? No, I’m the one watching, looking.

Is there a doubt about you being or not a thought? How can a thought see or know other thoughts?
Is the thought "me" or "I" knowing the experience?
Watching is happening, looking is happening : is there you necessary?
Is there some entity doing the watching, the seeing, the hearing, ...?

It seems like a trance. The believing seems to be just a happening. I can’t find someone. It’s like a programme, a computer programme which runs on its own.

Yes, how do you feel to see this?

There’s only awareness being aware of everything.

awareness = being aware = knowing = seeing = hearing = smelling = tasting = feeling sensations. Too many words to the same "being aware".

Look at thoughts and see definitely that there is no you, no entity behind them. See that thoughts have no intelligence, they know nothing. You are looking at AI : there is no intelligence behind AI. It is a program running.
There is a thought :" I am seeking for truth". SEE that this thought is known or noticed by this truth, this awareness which is sought. That is IT.

Best for you