If you are ready, come in..

[jeffdilbeck]

So what does having sticky thoughts have to do with belief in a separate I?

[MerlinC]

the sticky thoughts at the time was that I had an I but I seen now that ultimately all thoughts or images or emotion cannot be the witness of thees things

[jeffdilbeck]

Cool, ok...

So is there a witness? Or just the ability for witnessing?

What is the witness?

[MerlinC]

no anything just the ability of witnessing life as life

[jeffdilbeck]

That makes sense.

Am I separate from you? Do you exist?

[MerlinC]

I dont exist and in that formlessness I suppose we are not separate

[jeffdilbeck]

Do you do things?

What do you refer to when you say I?

Is the thinker a person?

What about reincarnation?

[MerlinC]

no I dont but my body does
I refers to formlessness or in speech the person
no thinker thinking just thought appearing and dispersing
I have no clue if reincarnation exists or not but if it does my guess is the formless takes shape in form and sometimes it gets mixed up in mind depending on the creature it inhabits

[jeffdilbeck]

Brilliant. So can you find any real center of experience? What about oneness?

[MerlinC]

there is no center unless there is a concept of center held as a belief
oneness is that which is beyond description

[jeffdilbeck]

So a belief can create things?

[MerlinC]

if I believe in hell Im going to avoid hell that's the power of belief

[jeffdilbeck]

I don't fully understand what you just said. I'd like to though. :D

[MerlinC]

haha I dont believe beliefs make things real but beliefs can make the illusion that they are real like believing in Santa or the me

[jeffdilbeck]

If there is no self, are there walls between you and others?