Hi Tyler
“Looks like the doubt was really just doubt as you've seen. Does "going through the gate" feel like a real thing anymore?”
Funnily enough, no!
“Feel free to write out responses to the 6 questions I sent you a couple days ago if you're inclined to. Trying to formulate the answers and express your experience may even make some things for you :)”
:)) will start that tomorrow. Thanks Tyler..
Through the veil
Re: Through the veil
Hi Tyler
I’ve sat with the questions, written stuff, felt physically uncomfortable, crossed the writing out, tried again next day, more physical discomfort. It becomes a mental exercise, a disturbance that’s quite difficult. DE = no writing. In your words “What the heck?!”
:(
I’ve sat with the questions, written stuff, felt physically uncomfortable, crossed the writing out, tried again next day, more physical discomfort. It becomes a mental exercise, a disturbance that’s quite difficult. DE = no writing. In your words “What the heck?!”
:(
Re: Through the veil
Hey aldi, it seems like you've developed an aversion to thought and mental exertion. Let's delve deeper before you address the questions again. DE is in no way better than thought and I'm afraid I may have led you to believe so. In fact, is DE even really separate from thought?
Where does DE end and thought begin? Were they ever truly 2 separate things? Is there anything about DE that makes it more "real" or "true" than thought? Isn't the sense that DE is more "real" or "true" or "good" just another layer of thought you've pasted onto DE? What does it mean for something to be "real" or "true"? Do these qualities inherently exist anywhere but as the content of thought?
Stop trying to separate DE from thought and try this:
1) Sit
2) Do nothing
As sights, sounds, sensations, and thoughts arise and cease, are each of these classifications of experience happening in different spaces? None of them tell us anything about how real, true, or good each of them are before thoughts put those labels on them. Watch everything morph and change in mysterious ways. Is there any separation between the individual senses? Is there any separation between a sense and thought?
Sit and do nothing. You will find that it all chugs along happily without any effort on your behalf. You will find that separation cannot be found unless you create it. When you let go of effort and let experience be whatever it is, where are the boundaries? Is this not just one vibrant mysterious whatever-ness? We don't even have to say it's "one" anything or give it a name.
Sit and do nothing. What's here? Is there such a thing as DE or thought? Or are those just learned concepts that you can reify and compare in your mind? Not only will you find that there's no separation between DE and thought, you will also find that there's no such thing as DE or thought. All of this is just what it is. Names are arbitrary.
Sit and do nothing. What's here? Is it here? Where is there? Is there anywhere apart from here? Where else could there be? Could there be some kind of objective reality that your brain creates a subjective experience of? Regardless of your answer, an objective reality can only exist as an idea, a thought in your experience. Is there anything apart from your experience? Anything you can think of that could be apart from your experience must appear as a thought within your experience. What else could there be apart from your experience?
Sit and do nothing. What's here, NOW? What is now? Is there a then? You can think of a then. Can you experience a then? Another time, another place, a disaster, a miracle, something wrong, something right... What are all these?
Sit and do nothing. What's wrong with thought? What even is thought? What?
We use words to communicate, what's wrong with that? You have memories that don't reflect reality, what's wrong with that? You ask me a question, I write you an answer, what's wrong with that? I ask you a question, you write me an answer, what's wrong with that? Maybe you won't find words that you feel are accurate. Nothing wrong. A question arises and an answer arises, why call this wrong? Afraid to contradict yourself?
"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
I am large, I contain multitudes."
-Walt Whitman
No need to judge. No need to judge judging. Let go of the tiller.
Do you remember when we first made this distinction and I mentioned that it was artificial? This was useful in helping you experience the senses without thought overlaying them but now, if you look carefully, can you find the dividing line between DE and thought? Does it seem as though DE and thought arise in different spaces? If so, where's the boundary?Let's make a useful (yet artificial) distinction moving forward.
There are 2 parts of your experience:
Where does DE end and thought begin? Were they ever truly 2 separate things? Is there anything about DE that makes it more "real" or "true" than thought? Isn't the sense that DE is more "real" or "true" or "good" just another layer of thought you've pasted onto DE? What does it mean for something to be "real" or "true"? Do these qualities inherently exist anywhere but as the content of thought?
Stop trying to separate DE from thought and try this:
1) Sit
2) Do nothing
As sights, sounds, sensations, and thoughts arise and cease, are each of these classifications of experience happening in different spaces? None of them tell us anything about how real, true, or good each of them are before thoughts put those labels on them. Watch everything morph and change in mysterious ways. Is there any separation between the individual senses? Is there any separation between a sense and thought?
Sit and do nothing. You will find that it all chugs along happily without any effort on your behalf. You will find that separation cannot be found unless you create it. When you let go of effort and let experience be whatever it is, where are the boundaries? Is this not just one vibrant mysterious whatever-ness? We don't even have to say it's "one" anything or give it a name.
Sit and do nothing. What's here? Is there such a thing as DE or thought? Or are those just learned concepts that you can reify and compare in your mind? Not only will you find that there's no separation between DE and thought, you will also find that there's no such thing as DE or thought. All of this is just what it is. Names are arbitrary.
Sit and do nothing. What's here? Is it here? Where is there? Is there anywhere apart from here? Where else could there be? Could there be some kind of objective reality that your brain creates a subjective experience of? Regardless of your answer, an objective reality can only exist as an idea, a thought in your experience. Is there anything apart from your experience? Anything you can think of that could be apart from your experience must appear as a thought within your experience. What else could there be apart from your experience?
Sit and do nothing. What's here, NOW? What is now? Is there a then? You can think of a then. Can you experience a then? Another time, another place, a disaster, a miracle, something wrong, something right... What are all these?
Sit and do nothing. What's wrong with thought? What even is thought? What?
We use words to communicate, what's wrong with that? You have memories that don't reflect reality, what's wrong with that? You ask me a question, I write you an answer, what's wrong with that? I ask you a question, you write me an answer, what's wrong with that? Maybe you won't find words that you feel are accurate. Nothing wrong. A question arises and an answer arises, why call this wrong? Afraid to contradict yourself?
"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
I am large, I contain multitudes."
-Walt Whitman
No need to judge. No need to judge judging. Let go of the tiller.
Re: Through the veil
Hi Tyler - so glad to read your post, so grateful that you see what’s needed. Too late this evening to really dive in ( though even a first read is speaking), so I’ll post to you tomorrow.
Night, and thanks Tyler :)
Night, and thanks Tyler :)
Re: Through the veil
Hi Tyler - today has been a lovely exploration, a delve as you called it.
“Let's make a useful (yet artificial) distinction moving forward.
There are 2 parts of your experience:
Do you remember when we first made this distinction and I mentioned that it was artificial? This was useful in helping you experience the senses without thought overlaying them but now, if you look carefully, can you find the dividing line between DE and thought? Does it seem as though DE and thought arise in different spaces? If so, where's the boundary?”
Ah, yes, I was taking DE to be other than, and better than, thought. I’d forgotten you’d pointed out that the distinction is artificial, helpful in that moment. And you’re right, I can’t find the line where DE ends and thought begins. Nor do they arise in different spaces. And so revealing that I took DE to be better than thought when that in itself was just a thought, along with the description ‘better/more real etc’ ( also just thoughts!)
Stop trying to separate DE from thought and try this:
1) Sit
2) Do nothing
As sights, sounds, sensations, and thoughts arise and cease, are each of these classifications of experience happening in different spaces? None of them tell us anything about how real, true, or good each of them are before thoughts put those labels on them. Watch everything morph and change in mysterious ways. Is there any separation between the individual senses? Is there any separation between a sense and thought?”
None of these happen in different spaces, nor is there any separation between them. All arise and cease within the ‘same space’. No separation between a sense and a thought.
“Sit and do nothing. What's here? Is there such a thing as DE or thought? Or are those just learned concepts that you can reify and compare in your mind? Not only will you find that there's no separation between DE and thought, you will also find that there's no such thing as DE or thought. All of this is just what it is. Names are arbitrary.”
This was lovely Tyler! So enjoyed today’s sits. No one making boundaries, all just ‘“chugging along’” as you described. Experience, just that.
“Sit and do nothing. What's here? Is there such a thing as DE or thought? Or are those just learned concepts that you can reify and compare in your mind? Not only will you find that there's no separation between DE and thought, you will also find that there's no such thing as DE or thought. All of this is just what it is. Names are arbitrary.”
Names - DE/thought/I/me - are arbitrary until a label is needed for communication?
“Sit and do nothing. What's here? Is it here? Where is there? Is there anywhere apart from here? Where else could there be? Could there be some kind of objective reality that your brain creates a subjective experience of? Regardless of your answer, an objective reality can only exist as an idea, a thought in your experience. Is there anything apart from your experience? Anything you can think of that could be apart from your experience must appear as a thought within your experience. What else could there be apart from your experience?”
How can I define Here when it’s all that there is?! It is here. Here is here. There can’t be a ‘there’, only an idea of there, can’t experience a ‘there’. And can’t experience a ‘then’ either (or a future).
“Sit and do nothing. What's wrong with thought? What even is thought? What?”
Nothing inherently wrong with thought. A movement that arises and ceases.
“We use words to communicate, what's wrong with that? You have memories that don't reflect reality, what's wrong with that? You ask me a question, I write you an answer, what's wrong with that? I ask you a question, you write me an answer, what's wrong with that? Maybe you won't find words that you feel are accurate. Nothing wrong. A question arises and an answer arises, why call this wrong? Afraid to contradict yourself?
"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
I am large, I contain multitudes."
-Walt Whitman
No need to judge. No need to judge judging. Let go of the tiller.”
Can’t find wrongness. But contradict myself? All the time Tyler, all the time! One moment a vast spaciousness, the next a small personal person and so on.. Walt Whitman’s ‘I contain multitudes’.
And judgement/judging judgement? Ahh yes. I read your wonderfully deep post last night before I went to sleep and I woke this morning with a sense of everything being made of the same “stuff”.
Reading your words again this evening - the last few sentences. “Let go of the tiller” reverberating deeply inside my body, and I’m crying. Sensation of dominoes falling. Enormous space opening up inside me. More crying!
How can I thank you Tyler for this intimacy? I really appreciate your writings and the time you give to this. Your guidance is having such a direct and profound effect on me…
Time to sleep
Night
“Let's make a useful (yet artificial) distinction moving forward.
There are 2 parts of your experience:
Do you remember when we first made this distinction and I mentioned that it was artificial? This was useful in helping you experience the senses without thought overlaying them but now, if you look carefully, can you find the dividing line between DE and thought? Does it seem as though DE and thought arise in different spaces? If so, where's the boundary?”
Ah, yes, I was taking DE to be other than, and better than, thought. I’d forgotten you’d pointed out that the distinction is artificial, helpful in that moment. And you’re right, I can’t find the line where DE ends and thought begins. Nor do they arise in different spaces. And so revealing that I took DE to be better than thought when that in itself was just a thought, along with the description ‘better/more real etc’ ( also just thoughts!)
Stop trying to separate DE from thought and try this:
1) Sit
2) Do nothing
As sights, sounds, sensations, and thoughts arise and cease, are each of these classifications of experience happening in different spaces? None of them tell us anything about how real, true, or good each of them are before thoughts put those labels on them. Watch everything morph and change in mysterious ways. Is there any separation between the individual senses? Is there any separation between a sense and thought?”
None of these happen in different spaces, nor is there any separation between them. All arise and cease within the ‘same space’. No separation between a sense and a thought.
“Sit and do nothing. What's here? Is there such a thing as DE or thought? Or are those just learned concepts that you can reify and compare in your mind? Not only will you find that there's no separation between DE and thought, you will also find that there's no such thing as DE or thought. All of this is just what it is. Names are arbitrary.”
This was lovely Tyler! So enjoyed today’s sits. No one making boundaries, all just ‘“chugging along’” as you described. Experience, just that.
“Sit and do nothing. What's here? Is there such a thing as DE or thought? Or are those just learned concepts that you can reify and compare in your mind? Not only will you find that there's no separation between DE and thought, you will also find that there's no such thing as DE or thought. All of this is just what it is. Names are arbitrary.”
Names - DE/thought/I/me - are arbitrary until a label is needed for communication?
“Sit and do nothing. What's here? Is it here? Where is there? Is there anywhere apart from here? Where else could there be? Could there be some kind of objective reality that your brain creates a subjective experience of? Regardless of your answer, an objective reality can only exist as an idea, a thought in your experience. Is there anything apart from your experience? Anything you can think of that could be apart from your experience must appear as a thought within your experience. What else could there be apart from your experience?”
How can I define Here when it’s all that there is?! It is here. Here is here. There can’t be a ‘there’, only an idea of there, can’t experience a ‘there’. And can’t experience a ‘then’ either (or a future).
“Sit and do nothing. What's wrong with thought? What even is thought? What?”
Nothing inherently wrong with thought. A movement that arises and ceases.
“We use words to communicate, what's wrong with that? You have memories that don't reflect reality, what's wrong with that? You ask me a question, I write you an answer, what's wrong with that? I ask you a question, you write me an answer, what's wrong with that? Maybe you won't find words that you feel are accurate. Nothing wrong. A question arises and an answer arises, why call this wrong? Afraid to contradict yourself?
"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
I am large, I contain multitudes."
-Walt Whitman
No need to judge. No need to judge judging. Let go of the tiller.”
Can’t find wrongness. But contradict myself? All the time Tyler, all the time! One moment a vast spaciousness, the next a small personal person and so on.. Walt Whitman’s ‘I contain multitudes’.
And judgement/judging judgement? Ahh yes. I read your wonderfully deep post last night before I went to sleep and I woke this morning with a sense of everything being made of the same “stuff”.
Reading your words again this evening - the last few sentences. “Let go of the tiller” reverberating deeply inside my body, and I’m crying. Sensation of dominoes falling. Enormous space opening up inside me. More crying!
How can I thank you Tyler for this intimacy? I really appreciate your writings and the time you give to this. Your guidance is having such a direct and profound effect on me…
Time to sleep
Night
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Glad the writing resonated aldi :)
Let's take a look at control today with some simple experiments.
Palm Flipping
1. Hold a hand in front of you; palm turned down.
2. Now turn the palm up. And down...and up and so on.
Watch like a hawk.
Don't go to thoughts – examine DE.
Do this as many times as you like, and each time inquire:
How is the movement controlled?
Does a thought control it?
Can a ‘controller’ of any description be located?
How is the decision made to turn the hand over? Track any decision point when a thought MADE THE DECISION to turn the hand over and the hand turns over immediately.
Who or what chose which hand - the left or right hand for the exercise?
Can you find a separate individual or anything that is choosing when to turn the palm up or down?
Now move the hand in a random pattern.
Who or what chose the pattern?
10 Words
Type out the first 10 words that come to mind and post them here.
Here's my 10, I have no idea what the first one will be let alone the 10th -
coffee tick medicine give shake OK word rise say tea
(Actually they weren't the strict first 10, there seemed to be a selection process going on that said yes and no to the words that came up, but none of the process of word appearance or selection was known.)
Let me know what it's like for you. Were you the one who generated the words? And then were you the one who selected which words to put down? Where did the words come from?
Let's take a look at control today with some simple experiments.
Palm Flipping
1. Hold a hand in front of you; palm turned down.
2. Now turn the palm up. And down...and up and so on.
Watch like a hawk.
Don't go to thoughts – examine DE.
Do this as many times as you like, and each time inquire:
How is the movement controlled?
Does a thought control it?
Can a ‘controller’ of any description be located?
How is the decision made to turn the hand over? Track any decision point when a thought MADE THE DECISION to turn the hand over and the hand turns over immediately.
Who or what chose which hand - the left or right hand for the exercise?
Can you find a separate individual or anything that is choosing when to turn the palm up or down?
Now move the hand in a random pattern.
Who or what chose the pattern?
10 Words
Type out the first 10 words that come to mind and post them here.
Here's my 10, I have no idea what the first one will be let alone the 10th -
coffee tick medicine give shake OK word rise say tea
(Actually they weren't the strict first 10, there seemed to be a selection process going on that said yes and no to the words that came up, but none of the process of word appearance or selection was known.)
Let me know what it's like for you. Were you the one who generated the words? And then were you the one who selected which words to put down? Where did the words come from?
Re: Through the veil
Hey Tyler -
“Palm Flipping
1. Hold a hand in front of you; palm turned down.
2. Now turn the palm up. And down...and up and so on.
Watch like a hawk.
Don't go to thoughts – examine DE.
Do this as many times as you like, and each time inquire:
How is the movement controlled?
Does a thought control it?
Can a ‘controller’ of any description be located?
How is the decision made to turn the hand over? Track any decision point when a thought MADE THE DECISION to turn the hand over and the hand turns over immediately.
Who or what chose which hand - the left or right hand for the exercise?
Can you find a separate individual or anything that is choosing when to turn the palm up or down?
Now move the hand in a random pattern.
Who or what chose the pattern?”
I can’t locate a ‘controller’ nor is there a thought which prompts the movement. There is a tiny tiny ‘frisson’ in the brain region which happens as the movement of the hand begins. And no, there isn’t a separate individual (or anything) choosing the action. But without a controller, a thought or a separate individual instigating the movement … how does it happen?! Same with the changing pattern - nobody to choose. Is that almost-imperceptible movement in the brain a thought? Choice - doesn’t that word mean, by default, that a ‘someone’ is wielding it?
Looks very like this just is!
“ 10 Words
Type out the first 10 words that come to mind and post them here.
Here's my 10, I have no idea what the first one will be let alone the 10th -
coffee tick medicine give shake OK word rise say tea
(Actually they weren't the strict first 10, there seemed to be a selection process going on that said yes and no to the words that came up, but none of the process of word appearance or selection was known.)
Let me know what it's like for you. Were you the one who generated the words? And then were you the one who selected which words to put down? Where did the words come from?”
Blanket Rose Pencil Chair Arm Bird Shelf Shie Sky Hand
Most of the words, apart from Rose and Sky, were either from sight or from a sound. Rose and Sky popped up as visual images, not related to what I can see or hear. Thoughts. I didn’t feel that I was producing any words..more that they just appeared. I didn’t ‘choose’ which words to write down, just wrote the ones that were obvious. But there were a few ‘Ums’ in the sequence.
:)
“Palm Flipping
1. Hold a hand in front of you; palm turned down.
2. Now turn the palm up. And down...and up and so on.
Watch like a hawk.
Don't go to thoughts – examine DE.
Do this as many times as you like, and each time inquire:
How is the movement controlled?
Does a thought control it?
Can a ‘controller’ of any description be located?
How is the decision made to turn the hand over? Track any decision point when a thought MADE THE DECISION to turn the hand over and the hand turns over immediately.
Who or what chose which hand - the left or right hand for the exercise?
Can you find a separate individual or anything that is choosing when to turn the palm up or down?
Now move the hand in a random pattern.
Who or what chose the pattern?”
I can’t locate a ‘controller’ nor is there a thought which prompts the movement. There is a tiny tiny ‘frisson’ in the brain region which happens as the movement of the hand begins. And no, there isn’t a separate individual (or anything) choosing the action. But without a controller, a thought or a separate individual instigating the movement … how does it happen?! Same with the changing pattern - nobody to choose. Is that almost-imperceptible movement in the brain a thought? Choice - doesn’t that word mean, by default, that a ‘someone’ is wielding it?
Looks very like this just is!
“ 10 Words
Type out the first 10 words that come to mind and post them here.
Here's my 10, I have no idea what the first one will be let alone the 10th -
coffee tick medicine give shake OK word rise say tea
(Actually they weren't the strict first 10, there seemed to be a selection process going on that said yes and no to the words that came up, but none of the process of word appearance or selection was known.)
Let me know what it's like for you. Were you the one who generated the words? And then were you the one who selected which words to put down? Where did the words come from?”
Blanket Rose Pencil Chair Arm Bird Shelf Shie Sky Hand
Most of the words, apart from Rose and Sky, were either from sight or from a sound. Rose and Sky popped up as visual images, not related to what I can see or hear. Thoughts. I didn’t feel that I was producing any words..more that they just appeared. I didn’t ‘choose’ which words to write down, just wrote the ones that were obvious. But there were a few ‘Ums’ in the sequence.
:)
Re: Through the veil
Morning aldi
So, is there anything you'd like to investigate further on the forum?
How does water flow? How does grass grow? We are not separate from nature. We just sometimes think we are :)But without a controller, a thought or a separate individual instigating the movement … how does it happen?!
Within the context of the exercise, I know what frisson you're referring to and it certainly isn't a physical sensation to me.Is that almost-imperceptible movement in the brain a thought?
So, is there anything you'd like to investigate further on the forum?
Re: Through the veil
Hey Tyler - dinner cooked, the laundry drying, frogs chirruping outside the window. There haven’t been bells and whistles announcing change, just a very sweet quietness. Can’t even really say change, yet there’s an absence of… something.. indefinable! Hahaha!
I’ll sit with your question if I may?
Deepest thanks Tyler.. so brilliant to have this dialogue with you. More than brilliant actually.
Night :)
I’ll sit with your question if I may?
Deepest thanks Tyler.. so brilliant to have this dialogue with you. More than brilliant actually.
Night :)
Re: Through the veil
Of course, we'll wait and see if anything comes up then.I’ll sit with your question if I may?
Take a little time to gaze at the sky after you've read this. Take in the blue and the clouds and the trees in the background Stop all labelling and defining and take in the entire image as a whole.There haven’t been bells and whistles announcing change, just a very sweet quietness. Can’t even really say change, yet there’s an absence of… something.. indefinable! Hahaha!
Only that. Look. And then without taking your eyes off, stop looking. The seen has no need for looking. Enjoy :)
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Evening Tyler
“Take a little time to gaze at the sky after you've read this. Take in the blue and the clouds and the trees in the background Stop all labelling and defining and take in the entire image as a whole.
Only that. Look. And then without taking your eyes off, stop looking. The seen has no need for looking. Enjoy :)”
Strangely difficult to do! And can only maintain for a few seconds. Also, a slight physical effect, a movement in my chest.
I’m not terrifically well today Tyler - too much dental work! Will post tomorrow. :)
“Take a little time to gaze at the sky after you've read this. Take in the blue and the clouds and the trees in the background Stop all labelling and defining and take in the entire image as a whole.
Only that. Look. And then without taking your eyes off, stop looking. The seen has no need for looking. Enjoy :)”
Strangely difficult to do! And can only maintain for a few seconds. Also, a slight physical effect, a movement in my chest.
I’m not terrifically well today Tyler - too much dental work! Will post tomorrow. :)
Re: Through the veil
Hope your teeth are fine. Take your time :)
Re: Through the veil
Hi Tyler
Thanks for your ‘teeth wishes’… they are fine apart from the one which is now missing!
“Take a little time to gaze at the sky after you've read this. Take in the blue and the clouds and the trees in the background Stop all labelling and defining and take in the entire image as a whole.
Only that. Look. And then without taking your eyes off, stop looking. The seen has no need for looking. Enjoy :)”
Labelling seems to be deeply ingrained, almost ‘not conscious’ but there all the same. Stopping it is becoming more fluid as is the looking at the whole picture. And stop looking? Can’t really describe that. There’s the ‘seen’ and something else that is indefinable. Enjoying it!
Glad to be posting Tyler..
Night :)
Thanks for your ‘teeth wishes’… they are fine apart from the one which is now missing!
“Take a little time to gaze at the sky after you've read this. Take in the blue and the clouds and the trees in the background Stop all labelling and defining and take in the entire image as a whole.
Only that. Look. And then without taking your eyes off, stop looking. The seen has no need for looking. Enjoy :)”
Labelling seems to be deeply ingrained, almost ‘not conscious’ but there all the same. Stopping it is becoming more fluid as is the looking at the whole picture. And stop looking? Can’t really describe that. There’s the ‘seen’ and something else that is indefinable. Enjoying it!
Glad to be posting Tyler..
Night :)
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Hahahah, removal is the best cureThanks for your ‘teeth wishes’… they are fine apart from the one which is now missing!
What's the something else that is indefinable? If it's indefinable, how do you know it exists?There’s the ‘seen’ and something else that is indefinable.
Wanna do a call sometime next week? We could clear some doubt and do a little fun experimenting
Re: Through the veil
Morning Tyler
“What's the something else that is indefinable? If it's indefinable, how do you know it exists?”
Revisit - look closely - just the seen - made me laugh!
And yes please, love to have a call with you next week. I can’t do Thursday but, unless the need arises for a dental appointment (which would be Tuesday/Wednesday), I can do anytime that suits you.
Great!
Huge thanks Tyler
:)
“What's the something else that is indefinable? If it's indefinable, how do you know it exists?”
Revisit - look closely - just the seen - made me laugh!
And yes please, love to have a call with you next week. I can’t do Thursday but, unless the need arises for a dental appointment (which would be Tuesday/Wednesday), I can do anytime that suits you.
Great!
Huge thanks Tyler
:)
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