Guide request

[Elad]

You are not wasting my time. I would tell you if I had a sense something needs to change. So far never happened.

The concept I is useful for so many things, like the concept "here". There is no real permanent substantial here, but it's a great word for communication.

You are not through the gate. And I am happy to work with you until you are.

Are you motivated to keep going until clarity dawns?

Nobody can make it happen. Our exchange here can metaphorically speaking be likened to midwifery. In the end all of it including our seeming actions is grace.

[jazmine928]

Definitely still motivated!! There is a strong voice in me saying "you know this will never happen to you..." and I can't imagine ever feeling like anything other than me. Still keep all the books and videos in the power off mode? lol

[Elad]

You know what, find the book gateless gatecrashers here on LU, read it and write me often the reactions that come up, uncensored. Especially the emotional reactions. If you have read it before, do it again. Stay away from other books for now.

And write me more about this you that you imagine you will always feel, uncensored.

[Elad]

Here it is:

https://www.liberationunleashed.com/boo ... ecrashers/

[Elad]

And away from the videos 😱😝

[jazmine928]

I actually have the book at home! I dabbled in it, but never really read it from cover to cover. I'll start tonight! This "me" feels like this body with it's preferences, fears, hopes, jealousies, beliefs, yearnings, worries that I should be doing things different, that I should be "happier."

[Elad]

And it will continue to feel so often, or something normal like it, only it will be known that this experience happens by itself without a separate controller or doer really making it so. If you could make the conventional you experience stop you would have...

Anyhow, start reading, feel and see deeply your sincere and spontaneous reactions, write me about it often.

[jazmine928]

This "self" of mine really wants to get this. It also wants to be liked, viewed as good, pretty, special, unique. Thats something that comes up with this "self."

Ive been reading a little when I can and I have trouble seeing that I have no say in my life. It really sounds like it would be SO freeing to see that...like a big exhale and deep relaxation. But I also feel like how can I not have a say? It would be so easy for me to put a for sale sign in front of the house, pack the bags and move. I could quit my job, I could so something crazy..etc. I could work harder if I choose..the big things in life really feel like I am choosing them.

In reading someones story in the book I really sense a feeling of hope welling up in my chest that this freedom is possible and within reach. Now I'm going to get a cookie...can I just say "oh no chooser here so no sense in feeling "bad" for the sweets? lol I know I don't "chose" to feel the urge for the cookie, but it feels like I'm choosing to follow through on the thought

[Elad]

Lovely.

When you realize that there is no chooser of the cookie it does bring a lot of freedom.

That being said, if we interpret this intellectually as you did in your message, this freedom can sound opposed to having conscience, commitment, reliability, deliberate consideration and planning, doing chores that are not our favorite because they need to be done, etc.

It is not opposed to that. So if it seems so, you can know you are taking on board a belief rather then living from insight. Insight includes every aspect of life, every aspect of functioning like a mature and considerate person.

And it does help drop a lot of unhelpful pure fantasy based fear, guilt and shame around what I sould be and what I should have done.

Please remind me, did I do the choosing exercises with you: cookie exercise, palm flipping exercise, numbers exercise, etc.?

[jazmine928]

Yes we did do those exercises!

[Elad]

Cool. Okay, just continue reading and sharing sincerly and without filter, as you did.

[jazmine928]

Hi Elad,
I’m really enjoying reading the book! I can relate to so much of what’s been said. Something that resonates is the “I am” or noticing of presence. Ilona said that will never go away. I feel like I’m mixing up my “self” with this beingness. I also notice that all the thoughts in my head revolve around “me!” My job, my appearance, my happiness, my liberation, my relationship ships, opinions of others, my intelligence, my true nature…this list goes on and on and on. I think I’m hoping that this seeing past the self will diminish this me centeredness. And all the shoulds..I should do this, say this or that..it’s so suppressing!

[Elad]

Hi Elad,
I’m really enjoying reading the book! I can relate to so much of what’s been said. Something that resonates is the “I am” or noticing of presence. Ilona said that will never go away. I feel like I’m mixing up my “self” with this beingness. I also notice that all the thoughts in my head revolve around “me!” My job, my appearance, my happiness, my liberation, my relationship ships, opinions of others, my intelligence, my true nature…this list goes on and on and on. I think I’m hoping that this seeing past the self will diminish this me centeredness. And all the shoulds..I should do this, say this or that..it’s so suppressing!

Great!

You see that the wish for it to go away is another me program?

Look at it this ways: just lots of automatic programs

"Validation for me"
"Peace for me"
"Safety for me"
"Liberation for me"

We could call them evolutionary adaptations, variations on what will make me safe and well ish. They will not go away. But it's all held lighter when it's seen they run on automatic and don't point to anything real.

Keep reading and writing what is seen without filter, this is good.

[jazmine928]

Hi Elad,
I don't know where the week went! I had an interview, teaching observation and the start of my summer job so it's been busy. What I'm noticing lately, is more of a relaxation into noticing just what is and what "I" am. Last night as I was gazing out the window I sensed this new sort of seeing that I can describe as the feeling of having no head or no separation. I was trying to explain it to my husband and it was sort of like the difference between looking through glass and then putting down the window. I know that the "self" isn't a free standing entity and "I" am more of a flow and I cannot control what comes up and how things get expressed. I might not be through the gate but I'm noticing a lightening up and less interest in seeking. Right now I sort of feel like I'd rather just be alive in "my" life the strive for a better one..

[Elad]

This is all very lovely.

Not sure I understood if it entails something for what you want in the process here?

And how would you respond to these statements:

There is no real solid separate self, never was, is it true?

I is a thought that points to nothing concrete and has no control, is it true?