Has the Gate been crossed?

[Anastacia42]

It's more like a sense of identity.

You say "sense." Which sense? You only have 5 of them.

Loving,

[P5yx]

You say "sense." Which sense? You only have 5 of them.

I found this sense of self to be a combination of sensations and subtle mental images. First and foremost the sensations of the head, eyes, and face combined with very subtle images/outlines of my face. Second, sensations of throat and heart regions combined with subtle images of my body.

Loving

[Anastacia42]

Sorry, I have no idea what to say to these illusions.

Let's find you a guide who does, ok?

[P5yx]

Let's find you a guide who does, ok?

Yes, thank you Stacy. And thanks for the guidance up to this point. :)


Loving

[davjak]

Hello P5yx. My name is David and I'd be happy to accompany you in continuing to look into this illusion of a separate self. I've had a chance to review your thread, and I am impressed by your willingness to keep at it! I like your commitment, honesty and openness. They will serve you well in this endeavor. If you would like to proceed with me as your guide, please let me know, and we can pick up where you and Stacy left off. If amenable, what would you like me to call you?

[P5yx]

Hi David,

thanks so much for supporting me further onto looking into my illusions. I'm very happy to work with you from here on out.

Also thank you for your encouraging words. Be assured that my commitment is boundless. There is no way back as life becomes continuously painful at the moment.

You can call me Ralph.

Much love

[P5yx]

I think we can stop right here. It happened. Two days in a row very deep realizations.

I am that I AM. Everything is in me and I am everything. Love is everywhere.

Much love.

[davjak]

Hello Ralph,
Apologies for the late response. I'd been watching for an email notification, but hadn't received anything in response to your posts, even though I am subscribed to the thread. I'll have to look into what the problem might be.

So how is it going since your insights? If there is anything you would like to continue exploring, please feel free to reach out. I wish you the best.
David

[davjak]

And Ralph,
Please let me know if you would like to answer the final questions again and have them submitted for confirmation. Once you are confirmed, we can go over the after care materials.
Thank you,
David

[P5yx]

Hey David,

I'm sorry for having you wait for a reply. There were some crazy days since the events. I will try to send you a more detailed answer soon. :)

Much love

[davjak]

Hi Ralph,
Happy to hear from you! I'm here for you when you feel ready.
David

[P5yx]

Hi David,

thank you for waiting so patiently. I'm now ready to answer you final questions.

Much love

[davjak]

Hello Ralph, glad to see you back.
Here are the final questions. Your answers will be shared with other guides who may have questions.
Please be sure to use the quote function for each question, and be sure to answer each one individually.


1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.

3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

5) Describe decision & give examples from experience.

Describe intention & give examples from experience.

Describe free will & give examples from experience.

Describe choice & give examples from experience.

Describe control & give examples from experience.

What makes things happen? How does it work?

What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.

6) Anything to add?

[P5yx]

Hey David,

see my answers below:

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

No, there is no separate self. The question if there ever has been a separate self does not even make sense, as there is no past either.

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.

The illusion of the separate self is the belief in thoughts about me as a person. Typically, a thought about "myself" arises and attention automatically falls onto that particular thought. Mind typically follows with a series of further thoughts to reinforce the belief. This belief has to be constantly reinforced by compulsively thinking about this separate self.

As of now I simply witness the play of mind. Observing thoughts arising and subsiding. Same goes for other sense objects. Not a big deal as I'm not the content of thoughts. I simply rest in Beingness.

3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.

I AM. Suffering is non-existent (at least at the moment), as all suffering is mind-made. Losing belief in the mind brings so much relief and freedom.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

I went through a series of awakenings in the past 2 months, with every awakening deepening realization. However, regarding the initial awakening, shadow work broke a few deeply rooted beliefs so that the last barrier could be broken.

5) Describe decision & give examples from experience.

Describe intention & give examples from experience.

Describe free will & give examples from experience.

Describe choice & give examples from experience.

Describe control & give examples from experience.

I'll give the same answer for all of them. Decision, intention, free will, choice, control... all of them are mere illusionary. Life happens and mind claims doership. That's all.

What makes things happen? How does it work?

I don't know and neither does anyone else. There is no cause-and-effect relationship that might explain the happening of life. Cause-and-effect exist only in the realm of mind.

What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.

Absolutely nothing. Isn't that wonderful? :)

6) Anything to add?

Nope ;).


Much love

[davjak]

Hello Ralph,

No one had any more questions.

An admin will contact you with an invite to the LU FB group.

It's good to keep inquiring and clarifying this, as this is just the beginning.

If you ever have any questions, you can always ask anyone on the FB group, or reach out to me.

Below are some excellent resources for further exploration. It is not meant for you to explore all of these. Simply notice what resonates and go with that.

Simply Awake app - Free app for your phone that contains dozens of meditations that will help you keep looking deeper.
Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... roid.awake
Apple: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/simply-aw ... 544382796
https://perfectlyokay.org/ - A free, supportive community that has many different modalities and meetings.

Oscillation group - PerfectlyOkay.org also has an oscillation group for if you feel like you are going in and out of seeing. You can find information on it if you go to perfectlyokay.org -> Weekly Meetups -> scroll down half-way to Tuesdays and it should be there. You can also do a search on the page for 'oscillation' in the browser. The time right now says 10am PT on Tuesdays but please confirm this as it may change.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X_Xpd10pV0 - A great video from Angelo Dilullo on this process and how it deepens on its own, if not resisted.

https://simplytheseen.com/ - If you're interested in the fetters.

Then you have regular meetings. There are 3 groups you can attend:

Vince Shubert has one or two per week. Email vinceschubert@gmail.com for more information.

Luchana and Lubo have a group on Thursdays. Email Luchana at luchanauzunova@gmail.com

Ilona holds a monthly meeting. Write admin@ilonaciunaite.com for more.

And of course PerfectlyOkay.org community has dozens of meetings weekly.

Good wishes on the rest of your journey!
David