Feet first (or should it be head first?)

[vinceschubert]

Good evening James,

will endeavour to laugh more at more thoughts.

Oh, we're past "endeavouring" anything. You know about the laughing and at this point it will either happen or not. Perhaps a reminder that the laughing is about celebrating the recognition...
With that in mind, it is time to shift focus to the reality that trying, deciding, and choosing, only appear to happen. That life (this will do for a temporary resting place) ..that life does all of this. Not you.

And now my head is full of thoughts about the talk.

This is a great example. Thoughts appear. Your relationship to them is different that it would have been in the past. Instead of being lost in them, you see them happening.
When the talk happens you will also realize that the thoughts were only partially a reflection of what came out of your mouth. (maybe the other way around) If there were no thoughts then probably the same words would emerge.
The idea that the thoughts are a necessary preparation is delusional.

with love

vince

[jrm72]

Evening Vince,

Can't believe I nearly missed posting today.

life does all of this. Not you.

❤️👍❤️👍❤️👍❤️👍

If there were no thoughts then probably the same words would emerge.
The idea that the thoughts are a necessary preparation is delusional.

👍❤️👍❤️👍❤️👍❤️





J🤣

[jrm72]

Hello Vince,

Looking forward to the meeting tomorrow.


J❤️🖖

[jrm72]

Hello Vince,

See you this evening.

J❤️

[jrm72]

yes, definite phoney here 🤣🤣🤣

[jrm72]

Morning Vince,

Trying to ignore my thoughts about last night's meeting -

Was I too forceful.
Did I say stupid things.
Did I reveal too much about myself.
Why didn't I just keep my mouth shut.

So, thoughts are thoughts, another fantasy.

My coffee tastes a little bitter.
The sun shines dappled through the trees.
But bum and legs feel the hard surface of the chair.

Seeing
Tasting
Physical sensations
etc

Something appears to be happening to a me.
And that is one of many thoughts going on.

Hopefully when the dateless gate passes there will at least be some relief.


J❤️🤣🖖

[jrm72]

Morning Vince,

In the last post, dateless=gateless, although the gate is probably dateless as well, in the sense you can only ever go through it now.

Damn, was hoping that last sentence would give me the kick I need, but no.

J❤️🤣

[vinceschubert]

'evening James,

Trying to ignore my thoughts about last night's meeting -

Why?

Was I too forceful.
Did I say stupid things.
Did I reveal too much about myself.
Why didn't I just keep my mouth shut.

Absolutely not.

Something appears to be happening to a me.

What?

Hopefully when the dateless gate passes there will at least be some relief.

Wonderful fantasy.
Relief will happen when you stop looking for relief. (but don't try to do that - it doesn't work)

the gate is probably

Oh, so you don't see yet that it doesn't exist. (that's why is it referred to as the gateless gate.

Damn, was hoping that last sentence would give me the kick I need

The kick will happen when you stop expecting a kick. ..and maybe it will be a gentle push, or a fall...

with love

vince

[jrm72]

Evening Vince,

As to everything in your last post -

Yes, you always hit the nail on the head.

J❤️

[jrm72]

Morning Vince,

In recap -

Nothing to do, nothing to say, nowhere to go.
Here and now.


J❤️🤣

[jrm72]

Morning Vince,

Although this body appears to be here and now, the mind wanders far and wide in time and space.


J❤️🤣🖖

[jrm72]

Morning Vince,

Words flow, fingers type, thoughts go by.

And one thing I've never asked -

How are you?


J❤️🖖

[vinceschubert]

Good evening James, Your posts give me nothing to work with. They are reminiscent of talking with somebody already awake.
If you think (believe) that you are not yet 'there', give me something to work with.

How are you?

I'm not inclined to think about it to give you an answer. ..or if it's a social question, I'm fine.

with love

vince

[jrm72]

Hello Vince,

If you think (believe) that you are not yet 'there', give me something to work with.

My dissatisfaction with life remains and I haven't noticed any shift in my perception.
I can talk a good awareness, but for want of a better description don't feel it in my heart.
I'm in the - I'll do whatever it takes camp, but realise there's nothing to do - and this adds a layer of frustration, that although just needs to be accepted, is a pain in the arse.
I feel like I'm being swept along by the river of life and need or want to swim against the current.
Don't know what it would be like to just left myself flow and become the stream, for I have no idea how to stop swimming.

How are you?
I'm not inclined to think about it to give you an answer. ..or if it's a social question, I'm fine.

Have no idea why I asked that question, glad your fine.
Makes awareness conversations very interesting.


J❤️🤣👍🖖

[jrm72]

Evening Vince,

Feel like I'm tettering on the edge of something.
No idea what, and no idea what to do, to push myself off the fence.


J❤️🖖