Guidance to see its all just happening

[rav7]

Yes a sense of feeling lighter.

[Anastacia42]

Good!

Back on January 5, I shared about truth & lie feelings.

Lighter can indicate something is true. Take a look at that again. Play with different statements, such as.

There's a separate "self. "

There's no separate "self. "

and others.

Loving,

[rav7]

Hi,

Just to clarify do you mean the mind labelling exercise with the paper and pen?

Or just to use statements and tune into the feeling?

[Anastacia42]

Yes, I mean just to use statements and tune into the feeling. See what is true and what is not.

Loving,

[Anastacia42]

Didn't you look at January 5? At the exact exercise? '

Here is how to distinguish truth from lies.


We often lie every day & don't realize it.

For example, the grocery clerk asks, "How are you?" You reply, "I'm fine." While, yes. there is a sense in which we are always fine, even in the middle of suffering, at that moment, you were grieving the death of your dog, you had a slight sore throat & you had a headache, but you didn't feel like sharing all of that with the grocery clerk, so you lied, "I'm fine."

Also, it matters none at all how "distant" the remembered lie is. Besides the fact that time itself is fictional, a kind if lie, as we recall the lie it becomes present in this moment, as if it were happening now. This brings the body Sensation that accompanies lying.

Lies can be intentional or unintentional, conscious or unconscious, even so automatic that we ourselves are fooled.

The story of a separate "self" is a lie.

This is the lie you came here to see through. Therefore, it is helpful to notice the body Sensation of lying as one of the tools for finding the truth of no self.

You want to be in touch with body Sensations & able to clearly express them in words. This will help.

Lies are usually felt in the heart or solar plexus as a contraction that we may label as tight, heavy or tense.

In contrast, truth is usually expansive. We may call it loose, light or relaxed.

First, can you remember a time when you lied to someone you loved?

Here we count anything, lies we think of as "big" or "small" that "matter" or don't "matter."

How are you? I'm fine. No, your knee hurts, but you don't feel like discussing it with the grocery clerk.

It's a lie. A seemingly "bigger" one will work better for this exercise.

Find the lie. I don't need the whole story, just a few key words to refer to it.

Then scan your body for any Sensation (DE or Direct Experience), particularly in the gut or maybe the heart. Check very closely.

What is found?

If you think the memory you used wasn't clear enough, find another one or lie to yourself right now, make something up.

1 + 1 = 14 is a lie.

I love eating worms is (probably) a lie.

Or call up a video of a lying politician & notice what Sensations arise as you listen.

I will give you a clue: it is not that peaceful Sensation you felt before when you omitted "I." (refers to an exercise I gave before this one)

Please report back with what body Sensations (not interpretations) you feel. Bodies can feel hot or cold, heavy or light, contraction or expansion, etc.

"Peaceful" is an interpretation of a body Sensation, not the Sensation itself, for example.

Do you see that?

Loving,

[rav7]

Yes I really noticed lightness and expansion with true statements and a heaviness and contraction with a lie and how quickly the feeling changes

[Anastacia42]

Good.

Can you now say 100% that there is no separate self?

Loving,

[rav7]

Yes there is no separate self 100%

[Anastacia42]

Perfect. Let's look at a couple more things & then go to our traditional "final" questions.

Let's look at this idea of "choice."

Palm Flipping Exercise

1. Hold a hand in front of you; palm turned down.

2. Now turn the palm up. And down...and up and so on.

Watch like a hawk.

Don't go to thoughts – examine your direct experience.

Do this as many times as you like, and each time inquire:

How is the movement controlled?

Does a thought control it?

Can a ‘controller’ of any description be located?

How is the decision made to turn the hand over?

Track any decision point when a thought MADE THE DECISION to turn the hand over and the hand turns over immediately.

Who or what ​ chose which hand - the left or right hand for the exercise?

Can you find a separate individual or anything that is choosing when to turn the palm up or down?

Loving,

[rav7]

Hi Stacy,

I’m just with family today so will do the exercise and post the reply tomorrow.

[rav7]

How is the movement controlled?

It’s not controlled, the movement just happens. It cannot be explained how the movement occurs.

Does a thought control it?

No thoughts control it, they just narrate over the top of the movement which happens.

Can a ‘controller’ of any description be located?

No controller can be located. There is no doer here doing it.

How is the decision made to turn the hand over?

No decision is made, the hand just turns and stops turning when it stops.

Who or what ​ chose which hand - the left or right hand for the exercise?

No choice was made. It was just the awareness that witnessed a hand move forward.

Can you find a separate individual or anything that is choosing when to turn the palm up or down?

No

[Anastacia42]

How does it FEEL to see this?

Love,

[rav7]

How does it FEEL to see this?

Lightness and expansion!

[Anastacia42]

Excellent. We have some traditional "final ' questions. Would you like to try those?


1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.

3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

5) Describe decision & give examples from experience.

Describe intention & give examples from experience.

Describe free will & give examples from experience.

Describe choice & give examples from experience.

Describe control & give examples from experience.

What makes things happen? How does it work?

What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.

6) Anything to add?

Loving,

[rav7]

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

No there is not, the idea of a separate 'self' is perceptual.

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.

It starts in the morning when 'I' wake up. The thoughts upload and the separate 'self' or apparent body experiences the sensation of movement. Through the day the thoughts give the experience of control but there is more seeing that this is a perception of control only. Movement happens when it happens and is not always in corralation with thinking. The consumption of food or drink happens too. The labelling of the thoughts are what create a sensory experience of this (smell, taste, sound, sight and sensation).

The illusion of separation is a felt experience, and the idea of a separate self is a lie. When tuning into the sensations a lie brings about, the idea of separation brings these same sensations, eg a heaviness and contraction.

Finally when sleep happens there is no knowing of where the 'self' goes. All of this combined confirms the illusion.

3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.

It feels light and there is expansion having seen the illusion. Before this dialogue there was an intellectual understanding that there was no separate self rather than a sensory experience to feel it. These exercises have brought confirmation to the intellectual teaching.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

Please can you clarify this one, I don't understand.

5) Describe decision & give examples from experience.

I experienced a few occasions where 'my body' moved to avoid an obstacle and no thinking made that happen because no thought instructed the movement. After the movement occurred a thought arose where there was a realisation that 'I' did not make a decision to move.

Describe intention & give examples from experience.

There may be an idea/desire to do something a certain way however this is just a thought. When an intension is set, the mind can hold onto this and be inflexible to any outcome that is not this. This often results in frustration/ anger, for example you might want your day to have a certain order of events but it doesn't always happen the way the mind wants this results in hate towards the 'self' or others or both, rather than acceptance of what happened.

Describe free will & give examples from experience.

There is no free will. There is just a perception of it. If there were free will I would have certainly done some things differently for example going to my first choice university, I would have had no health issues and experienced more energy and would have moved from Manchester to a warmer place.

The idea of free will would be based off desire. Everyone experiences things that they would rather not have had to experience so this for me confirms that there is no free will.

Describe choice & give examples from experience.

The idea of choice is also an illusion. For example with my university application I chose to go to Birmingham and worked very hard to get the grades. When I got my results they didn't meet the requirements. Manchester was my second option and I didnt get the results they required either but they still gave me a place. This was the only university which offered me place in the end. This removed the 'apparent' choice and also confirms that there is no free will.

With the exercise about flipping the hand and which hand to use no choice was made about which one to use. One arm just moved, it just happened and no thinking determined which arm rose to carry out the exercise.

Describe control & give examples from experience

There is no control. I was doing a course where we look at our beliefs and what we are attached to. I was very attached to my personal possessions and did not want to share with the group about this through fear of them taking some of my things away. I was asked to share one day what was coming up for me and even though I didnt want to share about the possessions I found myself speaking about this. I was angry with myself afterwards and there was regret. There was a seeing here of how there is no control over the 'I' speaking.

What makes things happen? How does it work?

Higher power, Source energy, God

What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.

We are not responsible for anything. There is no doer here who can be responsible. I've had a couple of car crashes, both which just happened and there was no control of the 'self' so no one can be responsible. I was not responsible for the position of the other cars or the traffic lights changing or even the movement of the steering wheel. I was just the awareness witnessing it play out.

6) Anything to add?

No