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Re: Slow Progress

Postby Lubo » Sat Dec 16, 2023 5:47 pm

YES!
And notice that even the fact the everything is here is know?

"die" -notice the fact that everything is here as what is and you were never born and this is not exactly "the old world" ?
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Re: Slow Progress

Postby Bill2 » Sat Dec 16, 2023 6:27 pm

Yes. There is only here and only now. Space and Freedom. No birth or death. Just be present and experience all things, good and bad do not exist, be curious and part of everything. Enjoy the beauty and oneness!

Love

Bill

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Re: Slow Progress

Postby Lubo » Sat Dec 16, 2023 6:40 pm

:) Ok question for 1 bilion
Do you exist at all, can you point what are you?
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Re: Slow Progress

Postby Bill2 » Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:55 pm

Do you exist at all,

No. Take away perceptions and the world disappears.

can you point what are you?

No. Nothing exists to point at.

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Re: Slow Progress

Postby Lubo » Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:46 am

Wow, Bill,
Wonderful. Yes.
Until we are waiting other guides to confirm,
I want to walk with you in this wonderland, if you don't mind. This is not a part of the official investigation. So relax and walk with me.
What is the experience to find that all this beauty here appear right now as all that what is?


What is the role of fear, what is behind its protection?

So much love to you, Bill

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Re: Slow Progress

Postby Bill2 » Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:01 pm

Oh Lubo

I have had such a shift! I feel as if nothing exists, just space and freedom. Nothing to fear, no worries, nothing to do or accomplish. Just enjoy the peace and beauty and look to see what is happening with curiosity and without judgement. Love is here and thoughts come from nowhere but are not important and there is no separation between "me" and the universe-"I" am the universe.

So much gratitude.

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Re: Slow Progress

Postby Lubo » Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:14 pm

Wow, what a Grace.
Beautiful Bill, yes.

Enjoy freedom, enjoy paradise!!!


Now, from this new seeing
Enjoy answering these questions, sent from a friend:
"Yes. The body is real ...
Is it "my" body, or is it just a body?
Is there an inside or an outside?
If there is an inside - the inside of what exactly? If there is an outside - the outside of what exactly?

What does the word/label ‘body’ ACTUALLY refer to? What is the ACTUAL experience of the body?
Can the 'body' do things?

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Re: Slow Progress

Postby Bill2 » Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:46 pm

Is it "my" body, or is it just a body?

Not "my" body. Does the body even exist or is it an illusion?

Is there an inside or an outside?

Feels like the body is just happening-let it be.

If there is an inside - the inside of what exactly? If there is an outside - the outside of what exactly?

The body is just a part of the illusion called the world-no inside, no outside.

What does the word/label ‘body’ ACTUALLY refer to? What is the ACTUAL experience of the body?
Can the 'body' do things?


The body allows us to experience perceptions and sensations through the five senses. This may all be an illusion but all that matters is to experience and feel the peace, love, happiness, and absence of guilt, shame and worry.

Much Love
Bill

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Re: Slow Progress

Postby Lubo » Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:08 pm

:) I so happy for you.

Yes, freedom, no shame, no guilt, no worry.
Beautiful!
The body allows us to experience perceptions and sensations through the five senses. This may all be an illusion
Yes :) let's clean this, body makes 5 senses experience or body is created by 5 senses :),
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Re: Slow Progress

Postby Bill2 » Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:12 pm

body makes 5 senses experience or body is created by 5 senses

Body does not do anything. The senses just happen and the body happens? Does this make sense?

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Re: Slow Progress

Postby Lubo » Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:49 am

Hi dear Bill,
How do you feel during the night ? What about this morning?

The senses just happen and the body happens?
The goal is every believe to be seen trough, only nothing and everything. No me, no body, no real world....

Let's deal with the "there is a body" believe, are you interested? :)

Close your eyes and relax. Pay attention only to the feeling of your body. Can it be known how tall the body is?
Does the body have a weight or volume?
In the actual experience does the body have a shape or a form?
Is there a boundary between the body and the chair? At the point where your body contacts the chair, are there two things there, a body and chair, or one, sensation?
Is it "my" body, or is it just a sensation?
Is there an inside or an outside? If there is an inside - the inside of what exactly? If there is an outside - the outside of what exactly?
What does the word/label ‘body’ ACTUALLY refer to? What is the ACTUAL experience of the body?
Is there such thing "body" at all?

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Re: Slow Progress

Postby Bill2 » Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:10 pm

Dearest Lubo

The body is just a sensation and nothing more. It seems that all that is is just sensations and there is nothing else. Just space and freedom to experience. Excellent!

Love

Bill


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