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Postby Robin. » Fri Dec 23, 2011 8:48 pm

Thank you Robin.
I don't know what to do.
You could really tell me what is troubling you Agynes. You are anonymous here, and to use a famous quote. The truth will set you free. All suffering is an illusion. Its happening yes. But who is it happening to? We have established that there is no self as we thought there was. This is ego. When looking for an I we find its illusive.
Your ego when under threat of being exposed as yours is now, will use all kinds of delaying tactics to put you off finding the truth. It's simply doing its job. That is to keep the YOU that doesn't exist outside your ego a figment of imagination. The real Agynes is that watcher that can watch thoughts as they come and go.

If you get thoughts of anger. Just allow those thoughts and ask why am I angry? Then you can see that anger is happening to no one. You simply observe.

If you get fearful thoughts. Fear is happening. Ask what the fear is. Locate where it is in your body and allow it, but know it is artificial.

If sadness is happening. Allow that. Why are you sad. See how your ego is the sufferer of any of these afflictions. Your ego is the sepf that was created by the programming from parents, schooling, and the beliefs you took on as being real.

It really doesn't matter who talks to you here my dear friend. They can only point out one truth. This is the same one truth I am attempting to show you. I will try using a different approach. I am extremely concerned for you, and I simply want to help others as I was helped myself. I have read all the words I have written to you, and I honestly can't see how to make it plainer. To move forward and into liberation. All previous ideas, beliefs, have to be dropped. using beliefs that you thought were serving you are all a part of the problem. Trust me on this. I have been a seeker for well over 50 years. I have studied most cults, all religions, I have been a practising Wiccan. I ran a coven, and what's more. magic does work. I KNOW it works. I can't tell you how, it just does.

I have also been a hands on Healer since I was a small boy. IT WORKS. But throughout all these years I have always been a captive of my own ego. I have studied non duality for well over two years now. Something resonated with me. All the so called guru's have appealed to me. Ramana Maharshi, and Papji being most influential. Do you know what? If they were guru's, then everyone liberated here, including me are guru's also. Why? Because they found exactly what I have found, and what I am able to convey to you. They may well have had a deeper meaning within non duality. My experiences are bearing new fruit everyday.

I'm right here if you want me Agynes. My services are free, and are offered out of pure love. Nothing else. My ego is exposed for what its worth. There is no more ego tripping within this body.

Robin.

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Postby CreatriX » Sat Dec 24, 2011 1:18 am

Okay Robin.,what do you want me to do
"The teaching that the ego does not exist, can create intellectual confusion. The ego is only an idea--however strongly held by the mind--and as such does exist." Paul Brunton
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Postby Robin. » Sat Dec 24, 2011 10:44 am

Okay Robin.,what do you want me to do

All the necessary things to do I have posted in previous posts Agynes. But lets start with you telling me what brought you here. Just tell me everything that has led up to bringing you here. You sound very troubled and upset. Spill the lot out and we'll take it from there. Lets start by getting YOU separated from what after all are thoughts.

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Postby CreatriX » Sat Dec 24, 2011 4:34 pm

When I've read for the first time about this liberation thing I immediately got the AHA... Though I did not like the too much f-words in Ciaran's blog, Elenas' lovely blog really touched my heart. LU forum feels to me like coming home and I love how this works.
But in this duel it seems to me that I am loosing it and I sense another failure. Maybe we just don't find the right words, I don't know.
I know Ramana Maharishi for 18 years. Now, am I supposed to forget about his teaching or what?
"The teaching that the ego does not exist, can create intellectual confusion. The ego is only an idea--however strongly held by the mind--and as such does exist." Paul Brunton
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Postby Robin. » Sat Dec 24, 2011 5:11 pm

When I've read for the first time about this liberation thing I immediately got the AHA... Though I did not like the too much f-words in Ciaran's blog, Elenas' lovely blog really touched my heart. LU forum feels to me like coming home and I love how this works.
But in this duel it seems to me that I am loosing it and I sense another failure. Maybe we just don't find the right words, I don't know.
I know Ramana Maharishi for 18 years. Now, am I supposed to forget about his teaching or what?
No sweetheart. Ramana Maharshi teachings are wonderful and we should never forget them. When I asked you to forget everything. I am asking you to put all knowledge aside. Everything you ever heard, or read. That includes all your own intellectual ideas on this subject just for the duration of liberating you.
I simply want you to be like a child again, and watch, and believe this time exactly what you see for yourself. Not to take anyone else's word for anything. These experiences you will have will then be authentic. We don't deal with beliefs here. Its direct 100% truthful experience.

Lets not talk about duels. This sounds like a battle. I don't intend to battle. I simply want you to answer truthfully some simple questions OK?

1, when looking inside and pondering on anything your thoughts are flying about all over the place.
Are these thoughts carried out by the real authentic you ?
2, Can you stop these thoughts?
3, can you notice that there is another person watching these thoughts /
4 If so. Who is the real you ? There aren't 2 of you.
5, When I tell you that there is no Agynes and you search inside for her. What are the feelings that come up?

Really concentrate on these simple questions. Don't rush, don't worry about anything. and don't have any expectations. Play this little innocent game with me before we move on to the next step. This has to be done thoroughly, and your answers have to be absolutely truthful as you find them now.
You must NOT use any beliefs that you may have got from Ramana, or any other readings. The experiences you have must come from the NOW. The present moment you are carrying out my request.

I am doing this out of love Agynes. and I am sending heaps of it your way.
Robin.

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Postby CreatriX » Sat Dec 24, 2011 7:14 pm

1.My thoughts come and go, pretty fast and mostly randomly - it's kinda channeling them, tuning in into various clouds of thoughts. They vibrate around my head and my brain operates as an antenna for them. They don't have much common with my center, core, authentic being.

2. I cannot stop them, though they slow down when I concentrate on my tongue and relax it.

3. I sense something/somebody watching, listening to my thoughts - it's in the background, it feels like something vast, huge.

4. This is my real Self - it's hard to believe, because it feels sooo unlimited.
(I know there aren't 2 of me, only sometimes it feels that there are even more than 2 of me).

5. Emptiness. Nothingness. Neutral. Zero.
"The teaching that the ego does not exist, can create intellectual confusion. The ego is only an idea--however strongly held by the mind--and as such does exist." Paul Brunton
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Postby Robin. » Sun Dec 25, 2011 6:20 pm

1, when looking inside and pondering on anything your thoughts are flying about all over the place.
Are these thoughts carried out by the real authentic you ?
1.My thoughts come and go, pretty fast and mostly randomly - it's kinda channeling them, tuning in into various clouds of thoughts. They vibrate around my head and my brain operates as an antenna for them. They don't have much common with my center, core, authentic being.
2, Can you stop these thoughts?
2. I cannot stop them, though they slow down when I concentrate on my tongue and relax it.
3, can you notice that there is another person watching these thoughts /
3, can you notice that there is another person watching these thoughts
3. I sense something/somebody watching, listening to my thoughts - it's in the background, it feels like something vast, huge.
4 If so. Who is the real you ? There aren't 2 of you.
4. This is my real Self - it's hard to believe, because it feels sooo unlimited.
(I know there aren't 2 of me, only sometimes it feels that there are even more than 2 of me).
5, When I tell you that there is no Agynes and you search inside for her. What are the feelings that come up?
5. Emptiness. Nothingness. Neutral. Zero.

Agynes these answers are perfect. They indicate to me that you are well aware, and in tune with everything.
Your first answer is absolutely true. These thoughts are not authentic. They are all based on what your beliefs are, and the strength of these beliefs. When I say "Your," I am referring to your ego. This is the body mind, and no more than a reaction carried out by a pre programmed robot.
Your ego is the false self that is responsible for keeping itself safe. It will do anything not to be eliminated. It will trick you. It will create hate, fright,false feelings of despair, and all manner of sensations to make you feel like giving up your search for the real self. The worst being confusion. It will try to twist your feelings for its own survival.
The physical body can survive without a working brain. But the brain needs a fully in charge working ego to direct the body.

Your 2nd answer confirms how your ego tries to overpower you. Only with a really determined attitude can you slow down thoughts enough to be able to meditate, lets say. You have your own way of slowing them down, by relaxing your tongue. I use the method of pretending I am listening for a faint noise. Just as you would if you were sat in silence and you thought you heard something way off in the distance. The quiet brain still only lasts for a few seconds at a time though, unless you are a well practised at meditation.

Its at this point of silence that you can become acutely aware that other is this wonderful other self who is watching. This is not the Agynes who exists in the body mind, and has undergone a lifetime of learning. Firt her name, and then all kinds of things. The Agynes in the body mind who everyone knows is not real in any way. No more than a recorded message on a telephone is real. YOU, do not exist. Neuro science actually verifies this fact now, so it's not just all Buddhists, Hindu's, and various other religions, and of course, us here who know this to be true by first hand glorious experience.

The real you is that watcher. Its the same watcher that I am getting a more deeper relationship with every day now. Your real self is also my real self. It is massive. It is everywhere, and nowhere all at the same time. It is the very substance that everything in the universe and more is appearing in. It is omnipresent, and is the only real noticeable thing you will ever know.

Agynes. In knowing you are this vast, all encompassing watcher. This eternal consciousness, and that the person inside your body mind is no one but a none existent idea, in a none existent person. What feeling do you get ?

A good exercise you can do which I am stealing from someone else is this. Close your eyes and hold your hand out. Imagine there is an orange, or an apple, or a red ball sat in the palm of your hand. Picture it sat there. Look at it through your minds eye. Look at its texture, its roundness. There it is. Look at it. Through your minds eye its there. If you can hold concentration long enough, you will even feel the sensation of its presence.
Now! Open your eyes, and its gone. It was all a self created illusion. The only thing real is the observer of the body mind performing this trick. It doesn't exist, and it never did. It only existed while you produced the image. Rather like Santa Clause. The moment you realised you were being tricked. Poof! He was gone forever. It was all a lie, and a trick.

To free yourself from this illusion of Agynes in life. You have to look inwardly, and ask what is real. And what isn't.
Feelings come up. You may feel sad, for instance. When you look closely at this feeling. You will see that sadness is simply happening. Stay with sadness. Look at it. Let the watcher look at sadness happening. Stay with sadness as an observer to it. Sadness is happening, but it is happening to no one. Remember, you are the watcher.

Also, remember this. If you think about anything that is in the past, and you rerun the feelings that went along with anything in the past. You are rerunning a movie in your head that serves no one. It is dead. It never happened to anyone, so why rerun images and feel the feelings that never were? You only exist in the now. Bearing this thought in mind, everything is fresh and new in every second. The future doesn't exist as it's always still yet to come. So what would be the logical point in worrying, or thinking about anything that hasn't even happened yet?

Just let everything be in the moment. Notice how a tree doesn't need any help to be a tree. It is simply a tree being a tree. Flowers of great beauty do not require any help in being perfectly beautiful Like you Agynes, they are simply as they are. Perfect as the eternal all intended them to be. We are exactly the same, PERFECT, and exactly as was intended. All suffering we feel is a creation of the ego.Increasing the strength of the watcher enables us to simply watch, and ignore.

If its possible. get out into nature and observe yourself as being as care free as everything you see. Allow the watcher to interpret your place within nature. You are a part of everything you see. Including the sun, the moon, every single star Drop all prior thoughts of separateness. Feel that massive, love filled watchers presence, that is in all things, especially YOU for this exercise, and see if you can get that glimpse into another experience of the real you.
Do this, then mail me back with how your ego dealt with it, and what sensations it produced in you.

Much love to you. The gate is just in front of you. Look at it and see me stood inches from you. Come on Agynes. Just drop the old you and let that beautiful you who is watching join me.

Robin. {{{Hugs, and very happy Christmas}}}

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Postby CreatriX » Mon Dec 26, 2011 12:41 am

While reading your post Robin, tears started to flood my eyes. I went to the backyard, where we used to have a garden in my childhood, and I was just crying and weeping there for some time ... releasing all the tension, frustration, anger and negativity which has built up in me during this week and also over the last 2 years of depression.

I've realized this is the last time when I am sorry for myself. Because this is it - my so called life is over !
From Now, there will be no more stories made up by the ego. If there is no me, who would cling to them ? And if even neuroscience proved that there is no such thing, so then this is really it, I am done. Whoa, what a nice relief this brings...
And I am not going to worry any more and think hard about how to fix my life which has been falling apart lately. Life will take care of itself. I only have to Trust (like a child) and Believe (like a child) in the flow. And now these words has got a different and much deeper meaning.

There is a big Gate in our backyard made of iron. I stood in front of it, imagining, I am not alone. One of my cats was around too. I saw in the dark that there is a tall pine-tree on a neighbor's property, which I have never noticed before. When I looked upon the sky I only saw one star - all covered by clouds... Hey, it's New Moon in Capricornus, and oh yeah, it's Christmas ... Hmmm.

And then I went inside, took a shower, cleaned a cat-shit from the corner of the hall, ate something and went to bed.

While writing this post, a song popped into my head out of nowhere : All along the Watchtower - Jimmy Hendrix.

"No need to get excited ..."

Hmmm.
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Postby Robin. » Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:45 am

This sounds great Agynes. It seems to me like you made a breakthrough. I'm going to get others to check your post out and see what they think. I'll be leaving you now as I won't be posting any more. Any follow up on your liberation will be taken over by someone with a deeper experience than I. Its been a pleasure corresponding with you.

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Postby CreatriX » Mon Dec 26, 2011 4:49 pm

Robin, I want to thank you from my heart for being such a great guide. I appreciate your patience; I know that I was not always nice and I apologize for that. You helped me so much. Thank you for being with me ! Peace,
Agynes
"The teaching that the ego does not exist, can create intellectual confusion. The ego is only an idea--however strongly held by the mind--and as such does exist." Paul Brunton
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Postby Robin. » Mon Dec 26, 2011 5:32 pm

Robin, I want to thank you from my heart for being such a great guide. I appreciate your patience; I know that I was not always nice and I apologize for that. You helped me so much. Thank you for being with me ! Peace,
Agynes

Agynes, it's a joy to talk with you, and I would like to chat a little more with you if I may.
It seems that I have used one aspect of our talk rather out of context, and not strictly speaking clear in one point that was in my observation of a truth. My truth. You can re read what I said with regard to a witness, or a watcher watching our thoughts.

Ironically enough. You shared the feeling that something/someone was watching our thoughts when looking internally.
I would like to ask you this question.

When looking intently at your thoughts, and your sense of "I". Tell me what's happening now ?
When you look now with new vision at what you took to be a personal "I", which we have established was your ego, and doesn't exist and so cannot be found. Is that same watcher/witness present ?

Just simply state what is true for you in the present Agynes. Tell me what your feelings are, and what emotions may arise. I have come to realise that full liberation can seem fast at first, but is still an ongoing process. Problems in grasping the complete new knowledge of no self, may, or may not occur. You simply have to test the truth for yourself, question everything. Look deep into your engrained beliefs and see how you were tricked.

Big hugs. Robin.

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Postby CreatriX » Mon Dec 26, 2011 7:44 pm

When turning attention inside my feeling is that the same witness/ watcher is present. I perceive it even stronger, it feels like I am more focused and conscious. Because now I am sure that my thoughts and feelings are not so important at all, as I used to believe. I am a bit more aware.

Before I was deliberately trying to think positively - to keep in my mind positively charged thoughts, so it will improve my life. Now - if I understood it correctly, it's better to keep the mind empty. It's a step beyond the realm of thoughts, of duality. Language creates duality - we should not forget about this fact.

I created for myself misery, depression by taking my thoughts so seriously. I did not know that there is no self in reality - what is now so ridiculously obvious - how come I never heard about it before ? I've only read about non-duality about 2 weeks ago, so I might be still shocked by the truth.

I used to believe that the ego has to be transformed, and I thought it means: actively changed. But this is about annihilation, erasing ego, or leaving behind something which was only an illusion. When Jesus talked about 'loosing ourselves' this is what he ment.

Does this answer your question, Robin ?
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Postby Robin. » Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:14 pm

When turning attention inside my feeling is that the same witness/ watcher is present. I perceive it even stronger, it feels like I am more focused and conscious. Because now I am sure that my thoughts and feelings are not so important at all, as I used to believe. I am a bit more aware.
Now Agynes. This is where like me, you are being tricked. This feeling of a watcher, a witness to the ego being dropped away is in fact the ego materialising itself as another entity so to speak. There is no witness, though I still have a sensation of a watcher/witness as I slowly deepen my liberation. This is an ongoing process, and so in turn the ego persistently plays tricks on you. There is no self in any way. watching is simply happening. No this and be sure it is true. I can say this quite categorically as my watcher comes and goes.Truth is permanent.
Before I was deliberately trying to think positively - to keep in my mind positively charged thoughts, so it will improve my life. Now - if I understood it correctly, it's better to keep the mind empty. It's a step beyond the realm of thoughts, of duality. Language creates duality - we should not forget about this fact.
Yes indeed. Keeping the mind clear, and positively charged is the way forward. Easier said than done, and takes much practise and is always an ongoing pursuit. Be ever mindful of the self trying to trick you into rising to thoughts of depression, anger, hopelessness. All the feelings are simply happening, to no one.
I created for myself misery, depression by taking my thoughts so seriously. I did not know that there is no self in reality - what is now so ridiculously obvious - how come I never heard about it before ? I've only read about non-duality about 2 weeks ago, so I might be still shocked by the truth.
The knowledge of no separation, and none duality goes back thousands of years. It was believed that to become enlightened one had to sit in solitude under a Bodhi tree as the Buddha himself did. It's now been proven over and over again that by direct pointing, as done here by this wonderful liberation unleashed site, can be done almost immediately, but longer in some people. Some of us have even had the altered state of awareness which will leave you in no doubt that what path you have chosen here is 100% . I have given myself headache trying to repeat this altered awareness state. Its best not to try, and to just let liberation take its natural course with you. But most important is to stay true to yourself and examine everything, and prove to yourself that the self is not interfering with the truth. There is no you.
I used to believe that the ego has to be transformed, and I thought it means: actively changed. But this is about annihilation, erasing ego, or leaving behind something which was only an illusion. When Jesus talked about 'loosing ourselves' this is what he meant.
Yes I am sure Jesus, and many other masters as they are called were referring to. There are many quotes in the bible that refer to the answers being within ourselves. They really are. Annihilation of the ego is an ongoing task, but it is a labour of love as it were. Dissolving the ego completely is the goal to freedom and no more suffering. But it cannot be done overnight. The first step is seeing in truth that there is no "I" that it is a mental construct created by others from around the age of 18months- two years old. Then what we perceptive ourselves to be takes hold and adds more to the melting pot of lies. Then of course we believe almost everything that we think so called experts say, without testing for ourselves if the paradigm shifts that happen. a lot of what the expert Sigmund Freud said he stole from another source. He investigated the ego, the self, and something he called the Id. We are constantly led astray like lost sheep in all fields of expertise and knowledge. We are given information that is designed to control us. Teachers teach students, to become teachers, to become students in an endless cycle of recycled garbage.

The most important thing now is to keep reinforcing what you KNOW To be true. You cannot find and "I" anywhere, and there never was a watcher. So where is the person suffering? It is all nothing, happening to no one. But none the less the body mind produces the relative feelings of pain, and suffering, etc, etc.

Try to tell me if there is anything extra I have added here that induces any feelings within you Agynes.
Are you happy with this new found knowledge that nothing is happening to no body?
Be ever aware of everything that happens to you. Any unexpected changes in mood can be blamed upon the ego slyly attempting to trick you. Don't worry about anything. We have a wonderful team of people on Facebook who are there for all of us as a back up with aftercare. The link will be given to you soon.

Tell me what liberation means to you, and how you see yourself in the world now ?

Much love,

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Postby CreatriX » Tue Dec 27, 2011 5:59 pm

This is where like me, you are being tricked. This feeling of a watcher, a witness to the ego being dropped away is in fact the ego materialising itself as another entity so to speak. There is no witness, though I still have a sensation of a watcher/witness as I slowly deepen my liberation. This is an ongoing process, and so in turn the ego persistently plays tricks on you. There is no self in any way. watching is simply happening. No this and be sure it is true. I can say this quite categorically as my watcher comes and goes.Truth is permanent.
There is no witness ? Now it is not clear to me. This is why I've asked in one of my previous posts that shall we now forget about the teaching of R.Maharishi ? According to him, there is only the witness/higher Self (and no ego).
You are saying that there is only this process of happenings, the flow - right?
How is it then? Can you explain this to me ?
R.Maharishi did not know this Truth that there is no I ? And what about E.Tolle ?
If I am correct, R.M. taught: focus on the feeling, sense of "I" inside you ; separate thoughts from the "I", and you will find yourself, the true self, the I AM , in your (spiritual) heart.

Tell me what liberation means to you, and how you see yourself in the world now ?
Well, I am not sure if I've fully got it, probably not. It is such a huge turning point and I can take only one step at a time. I have no idea how this will continue, what changes will bring, where will lead. It's a silent, peaceful inside revolution. There is a slight shift in me.
Otherwise, I am feeling less density, more airy, lighter. Lots of worrying is gone. Definitely some old issues were erased . There is a sense of new beginnings. Maybe it will be tested in case I go back to normal, everyday life and will socialize.
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Postby Robin. » Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:46 pm

There is no witness ? Now it is not clear to me. This is why I've asked in one of my previous posts that shall we now forget about the teaching of R.Maharishi ? According to him, there is only the witness/higher Self (and no ego).
You are saying that there is only this process of happenings, the flow - right?
How is it then? Can you explain this to me ?
R.Maharishi did not know this Truth that there is no I ? And what about E.Tolle ?
If I am correct, R.M. taught: focus on the feeling, sense of "I" inside you ; separate thoughts from the "I", and you will find yourself, the true self, the I AM , in your (spiritual) heart.
Hi Agynes. Lets go right back to the beginning for a second. back to the part where I asked you to forget all about anything that you ever read before. Lets do it again now. When looking inwardly for an "I" you do agree there is no "I". It cannot be found anywhere. I made a mistake myself by asking you to notice a watcher, or a witness to this.
There is NO duality. We are all as one. There is no separate "I" It cannot be found by you, it cannot be found by me either. How could there possibly be a witness within us? This was a trick by the ego to support any fear that may well be felt by the realisation of no self.

Ramana Maharshi, Eckart Tolle, All the many other teachers and Guru's all agree on this. They may well embellish their findings. But for these initial steps to freedom from suffering. We must only use direct experience. I have now seen through the witness, or watcher. I battled it out with various people on another forum which I hope you will be joining very soon. This is a forum designed for after care following liberation. I will say again. There is no I, there is no self, there is no witness.

Because there is no I. All the hurt you ever felt was false. All the depression you ever felt was false. It happened to no one. Experiences will continue to happen to no one. So how can no one be hurt? We can only be hurt by the false sense of and I am. Science agrees. There is no I. A self cannot be found when searching. The only thing that pretends to be a self is a false construct called ego. It isn't you. You are equal to me, and everyone else, including everything. We are oneness. Separation is a false belief of the mind.

My witness I hope is destroyed. It did come and go. Now if I had remembered the truth which is, "Anything that is a constant is a lie". I wouldn't have emphasised this false witness/watcher to you. It doesn't exist no more than a separate you does. Liberation is only the beginning Agynes. It gets better, and better as more things are realised. But they have to be realised by You alone. There is an awful lot of clearing out to be done after liberation, and is an ongoing thing.

Ramana Maharshi was not wrong, nor Eckart Tolle. But they are further along the path to knowing than we are. I could suggest al kinds of things from my own perspective to you. But for now it would not be helpful.

So. Before I go another word further. Could you please tell me what you see within your self when I say. There is no you Agynes. There is still an ego which will take some falling away completely, as will mine and everyone else here. But that is all there is. A lousy ego producing all that suffering, and that phoney witness/watcher which we don't need either.

Much love to you Aynes. We're almost there.


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