Resting in being

[Anastacia42]

Very good.

Here is how to distinguish truth from lies.


We often lie every day & don't realize it.

For example, the grocery clerk asks, "How are you?" You reply, "I'm fine." While, yes. there is a sense in which we are always fine, even in the middle of suffering, at that moment, you were grieving the death of your dog, you had a slight sore throat & you had a headache, but you didn't feel like sharing all of that with the grocery clerk, so you lied, "I'm fine."

Also, it matters none at all how "distant" the remembered lie is. Besides the fact that time itself is fictional, a kind if lie, as we recall the lie it becomes present in this moment, as if it were happening now. This brings the body Sensation that accompanies lying.

Lies can be intentional or unintentional, conscious or unconscious, even so automatic that we ourselves are fooled.

The story of a separate "self" is a lie.

This is the lie you came here to see through. Therefore, it is helpful to notice the body Sensation of lying as one of the tools for finding the truth of no self.

You want to be in touch with body Sensations & able to clearly express them in words. This will help.

Lies are usually felt in the heart or solar plexus as a contraction that we may label as tight, heavy or tense.

In contrast, truth is usually expansive. We may call it loose, light or relaxed.

First, can you remember a time when you lied to someone you loved?

Here we count anything, lies we think of as "big" or "small" that "matter" or don't "matter."

How are you? I'm fine. No, your knee hurts, but you don't feel like discussing it with the grocery clerk.

It's a lie. A seemingly "bigger" one will work better for this exercise.

Find the lie. I don't need the whole story, just a few key words to refer to it.

Then scan your body for any Sensation (DE or Direct Experience), particularly in the gut or maybe the heart. Check very closely.

What is found?

If you think the memory you used wasn't clear enough, find another one or lie to yourself right now, make something up.

1 + 1 = 14 is a lie.

I love eating worms is (probably) a lie.

Or call up a video of a lying politician & notice what Sensations arise as you listen.

I will give you a clue: it is not that peaceful Sensation you felt before when you omitted "I." (refers to an exercise I gave before this one)

Please report back with what body Sensations (not interpretations) you feel. Bodies can feel hot or cold, heavy or light, contraction or expansion, etc.

"Peaceful" is an interpretation of a body Sensation, not the Sensation itself, for example.

Do you see that?

Loving,

[Windaway]

Hello,

I have already answer. You send me the exact same texte yesterday.
You went copy/past to fast ^^

Here is my answer again :

Then scan your body for any Sensation (DE or Direct Experience), particularly in the gut or maybe the heart. Check very closely.

What is found

I lie in my last declaration of tax last year.

I feel a contraction in my stomac. Cold in my extremities (arms and legs). I feel cold sweat rising my soin to my shoulder en neck. The tension in my guts grow. The is tension, very hot, in the neck where the skull meet the spine.

The sensation a narrow and very focused on tension. Like this unconfortable sensation are all there is.

"Peaceful" is an interpretation of a body Sensation, not the Sensation itself, for example.

Do you see that?

Yes I understand and see the difference. Peaceful is a afterthought superimposed upon raw sensation.

At the same time I feel the interpretation or labeling very present as a feel raw sensation.

[Anastacia42]

You're right. Thanks.

Well, let's try this then ...

Actual/Direct Experience - Apple

Have a look at an apple (or any fruit you like.) If you have a ‘real’ apple, you can use it for this exercise. Google for a picture of an apple.



When looking at an apple, there's color; a thought saying ‘apple’; and maybe a thought saying, "I'm looking at an apple."

What is known for sure? Color is known and thoughts are known.

What about the content of thoughts, what they describe?

Actual experience does not refer to thoughts ABOUT something…because that is only just more thought.

Actual experience is sound, thought, color, smell, taste, sensation and the fact of thought arising, but not its content.

Is there really an ‘apple’ here, or only color and a thought ABOUT ‘apple’?

Can ‘apple’ be found in actual experience?

While these thoughts are known, what they talk ABOUT can't be found in actual experience.

This is what is meant by "looking in actual experience." What you know for sure, and, is always here.

Taste labeled ‘apple’ is known
Color labeled ‘apple’ is known
Sensation labeled ‘apple’ is known (when apple is touched)
Smell labeled ‘apple’ is known
Thought about/of an ‘apple’ is known

However, is an apple actually known?

Have fun and let me know what you find out.

Loving,

[Windaway]

What about the content of thoughts, what they describe?

Thoughts are self referenced. Thoughts about is about thought.

I can feel a sensation of the apple off course. But the « of the apple »is a thought. When a search for this apple, thought say « is in your hand ». Which hand is also a thoughts. Thought is like all dimension of itself.

Is there really an ‘apple’ here, or only color and a thought ABOUT ‘apple’?

Can there be both?
After all I am holding a apple not a cup of coffee or a pen. It is an apple that I am holding.
Even thought it is all in the dimension of thoughts. Because to hold something there must be hand. To have hands there must be a body, etc....but all of that is thought.

At the same time I can see that in direct experience the apple is not find in the way thought represent it. All I know about bird, apple, pen, is the experience I have in the instant.

I can see that there are thought about something that dont trigger inconfortable emotion and other that trigger a cascade of sensation and thought. For example apple doesn’t trigger mich. Is fun and enjoyable to explore. But thoughts as money, sex, operation etc... Trigger a reaction, trigger a somatic reaction.

I can see that it is not the thoughts the trouble to me but the somatic reaction that I want to get ride of. Thoughts are not really the trouble is my reaction to it. Or would I say the reaction of my systeme to a thought.

Can ‘apple’ be found in actual experience?

No, the world /thought apple is a representation.
I can see some confusion because as I say before even if the apple is not find is not a pillow or water.
Can you comment on it ?

However, is an apple actually known?

No the apple as thought imagine it is not found.

Thanks

[Anastacia42]

Hi,

Please keep your answers simple. There is no need to wander off into more toys & stories beyond the question.

Yes, "apple" is a made up story with no inherent reality.

Do not confuse the relative (is not a pillow or a pen) with the Absolute (There is no "apple.")

Our exploration concerns mainly the Absolute. There's no "apple" & no "self."

Not the relative. You can eat the apple. If you step in front of a bus you will die.

This is paradox.

Can you see this now??

Loving,

[Windaway]

Yes, I can see it clearly.
I am fine to focus only in the absolut.

I waiting your next advise /exercice.
thank

[Anastacia42]

Okay, try this:

Palm Flipping Exercise

1. Hold a hand in front of you; palm turned down.

2. Now turn the palm up. And down...and up and so on.

Watch like a hawk.

Don't go to thoughts – examine your direct experience.

Do this as many times as you like, and each time inquire:

How is the movement controlled?

Does a thought control it?

Can a ‘controller’ of any description be located?

How is the decision made to turn the hand over?

Track any decision point when a thought MADE THE DECISION to turn the hand over and the hand turns over immediately.

Who or what ​ chose which hand - the left or right hand for the exercise?

Can you find a separate individual or anything that is choosing when to turn the palm up or down?

Loving,

[Windaway]

How is the movement controlled?

The movement is automatic. There is an impulse to put the hand down or up. The arm twist “by itself” until the hand is up or down.

Does a thought control it?

No. Thoughts does not control movements.

Can a ‘controller’ of any description be located?

No. The movement follows natural impulses.

How is the decision made to turn the hand over?

I have no idea. The impulse (or decision) simply appear and the hand follow.

Track any decision point when a thought MADE THE DECISION to turn the hand over and the hand turns over immediately.
Who or what chose which hand - the left or right hand for the exercise?

I choose the hand.

Can you find a separate individual or anything that is choosing when to turn the palm up or down?

I do not find a separate individual that is choosing nor anything separated.

[Anastacia42]

Okay, wait. Foster you said

I choose the hand.

Then you said

I do not find a separate individual that is choosing nor anything separated

Which is it?

Loving

[Windaway]

Which is it?

I feel confusion.
When I search for a separate individual, I don't find one, just as I don't find a separate chooser.

At the same time, if there is a choice, I can feel that I can choose.
For example:
I can type the letter "X" or the letter "D."
When I search for this "I" that choose the letters I don't find it.

Right now when I wach my hand turning there is a sens of being the one to chose.

I guess the sense of being the chooser is a thought that appears after the actual event?

[Anastacia42]

the sense of being the chooser is a thought that appears after the actual event?

Exactly. Just as "I" appears after any thought or event.

"I" is nothing but a thought, a story.

Everything just IS. Life life-ing. It arises and we do not know how or why and never will.

Can you let it be a mystery? Seeing all of life as a mystery is freeing.

Much love,

[Windaway]

Can you let it be a mystery? Seeing all of life as a mystery is freeing.

Yes, I would love to let it be.

I often find experience being fluid and gracious. There is no need to resolve or understand.
And then shifting to being fearful and overwhelming. There is this urge to resolve and understand.

I wonder if I'm not trying to overreaching.
This waves of pleasant and unpleasant, clarity and confusion, may never end right?
Just liffe being itself.

Isn't there some point in your personale experience where a shift occur and doubt never appreared again?

Thanks

[Anastacia42]

Hi,

I just never had any doubts. I had been listening to things like Alan Watts lectures and reading about various religions and meditations since I was maybe 12 or so. My mother was interested in these things and supportive, as well.

There is a recording in my DropBox about "Re-Pairing the Universe," in it, it is mentioned that pendulums don't swing just one way. That is not how they work. Same with our experiences - back and forth is normal. The fulcrum is where peace is.

You will find that here:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/nsxjx8kbxaae ... kwaUa?dl=0

Be sure to listen to the Introduction first.

Much love,

[Windaway]

Yesterday I listen the introduction.
Today I will take time to listen "the Repairing the univers".
I let you know.

Thanks for this material

[Anastacia42]

Okay.

Tell me when you can say for certain there is no separate "self" and that no one "chooses" or makes "decisions."

Let yourself step back & really look. You cannot say how any "choice" is made. It happens & we make up the story after, as you said before.

"Self" is like Santa Claus. You see that it is a man in a red suit. And you can never be fooled again.

I'll watch for your responses to each pointer in the DropBox.

When you're certain there's no "self"we have some traditional "final" questions.

Loving