Freedom

[Bluejay]

No problem. Enjoy it!

[Equanimity99]

Hi Henri,

What are your expectations for seeing through the self illusion?

‘I’ don’t have expectations – there is just surrendering

Do you have any doubts or is this clear?

No, no doubts, it is clear

Any fears of regressing or sliding back?

No fears but I have seen flip-flopping over the last few days, but just accepted what shows up

You may find these two videos interesting at this point in time:

1. https://youtu.be/vJQcD588g2w

2. https://youtu.be/PUDzrCLlrj4

Thank you I have enjoyed these videos

Thanks for all your help.

[Bluejay]

Okay, all sounds good.

Can you say with 100% certainty that there is no inherent self?

Would you like to wrap things up with some final questions?

[Equanimity99]

Hi Henri

Can you say with 100% certainty that there is no inherent self?

Yes, I can.

Would you like to wrap things up with some final questions?

Yes, that would be great thanks.

[Bluejay]

Okay, here you go!

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.

3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

5) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control. What makes things happen? How does it work? What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.

6) Anything to add?

[Equanimity99]

Thank you Henri, will get back to you on this.

[Bluejay]

Understood. Take your time :)

[Equanimity99]

Hi Henri,

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

No there is not and there never was.

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.

The separate self is a learned narrative that was believed to be true. This starts from very young when a child is given a name and then taught to see a separate you and me. Taught about ‘my things’ ‘my likes’ ‘my personality’ etc. Thoughts and feelings show up and ‘we’ identify with that as ‘me’, ‘I am thinking’, ‘I am feeling’, not realising that thoughts and feelings pop up but doesn’t have an owner. The more ‘we’ identify with the thinking mind the more ‘we’ see it as ‘me’. As the illusion is seen and the chatter in the mind is recognised as automatic it is seen that truth is beyond thought.

3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.

It feels peaceful, spacious, and that all is ok just as it is.
It is good to notice that ‘bliss’ doesn’t have to be continuous, that identification happens but looking beyond thought reveals truth. So not being identified with mind chatter, seeing it is automatic, and looking/deep listening towards the quiet is the experience of aware presence. It already started before but finding even less reactivity, less taking things ‘personally’, and more social ‘ease’ and quiet.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

It just came together. The video and exercise Unfindable Inquiry: Part 1 [The Self] asking ‘is that it?’ was powerful to see life just happening.

5) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control. What makes things happen? How does it work? What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.

There is no decision, intention, control, choice or free will, life just happens. There is no controller responsible for anything, it is an illusion that there is. This body gets up, plugs in the charger, continues typing and the words flow onto the screen. Thoughts pop up about dinner, typing continues.

6) Anything to add?

Just a big thank you!

[Bluejay]

Thanks Petro!

I'll share these answers with fellow guides and see if they have any feedback.

Once that's done I'll be back with some resources.

Also, after this process, you are always welcome to contact me via the forum here (you can PM or email me through my profile) if you run into trouble post-gate.

[Bluejay]

One guide had a question on your answer:

This body gets up, plugs in the charger, continues typing and the words flow onto the screen.

The question: Does the "body" do anything? What is a "body"?

[Equanimity99]

Thank you Henri

This body gets up, plugs in the charger, continues typing and the words flow onto the screen.
The question: Does the "body" do anything? What is a "body"?

Ah, yes! Just typing happens, plugging in happens. Like the buildings and books that are called by the name university, there is no body. And the ‘body’ doesn’t do anything. Thank you!

[Bluejay]

Thank you. Will let you know if there are more questions. Stay tuned :)

[Bluejay]

There were no more questions.

You'll receive a PM from the admin inviting you to the LU FB group.

And here are some resources.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj3-Nn2nXL8 - What's Next? - A video from Ilona.

https://www.simplytheseen.com/explore-each-fetter.html - Great resource if you want to explore the next layer of selfing. In your case it would be fetters 4 & 5.

https://perfectlyokay.org/ - A free community that has an excellent 10 fetters group that meets up almost every week. They also have recordings from previous meetings that are excellent. Instructions on how to join are on the homepage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvAnoARCEtA - A good video from Scott Kiloby if more emotional stuff is coming up. He goes through the embodiment of awakening.

[Equanimity99]

Many thanks Henri, all your patience and helpful pointing are much appreciated.
Thanks also for these resources.👋😁

[Bluejay]

Thank you!

I enjoyed our conversation :)