My mind belives it`s aware?

[dreamer]

So
There is impatience.
There is doing what must be done.
There is disappointment.
There is thoughts.
There are feelings.
There seem to be energy drainage.
There is boredom.
There is lack of interest.
There is an I/me

All that is facts at the moment. So is it.
Let it be.

There is nothing wrong - all of that appeared and it is not YOURS! They all simply appears and disappears without no I/me, needed.

Are you the thinker of thoughts?
Are you the feeler of feelings?
Are you the doer of doing?
Are you the body?
Are you the brain?
Are you the MInd?
Do you exist?

Look into these questions.

Warm regards Vivi

[dreamer]

one more question

are you in control?

[Unity]

Are you the thinker of thoughts? ~ To a lesser degree, than before.
Are you the feeler of feelings? ~ Feelings are certainly felt.
Are you the doer of doing? ~ Doing is being done.
Are you the body? ~ Body is apparent.
Are you the brain? ~ Brain is engaged.
Are you the MInd? ~ Mind is operational.
Do you exist? ~ I think I do at present.
No to all should be the answer, but then I would be lying to myself, to be honest. Yes there is no me, but seeing this will not take centre stage, I know not why:(
The only other thing that comes to mind, is as one "we" are interconnected to "gods" experiencing, similar to our brain transmitting electrical signals, to the body.
The core you point to is imaginable, yet unobtainable at present.
The "you" Vivi is pointing to is here with the false me "you" is pointing at.
The "me" who "I" believe to be is afraid to loose what has been built upon, which the "I" knows is coming to an end.
Please keep pointing as the end is about to begin, (he thinks):(

are you in control?

Yes:( but know the answer will soon be No.
Why should I feel strongly to apologise?
L m:)

[dreamer]

Nice honest answers!

Please explain how you are the thinker of thoughts.

Vivi

[Unity]

Please explain how you are the thinker of thoughts.

Michael experiences thoughts from past, brings them into the future, bypassing the ever present now moment, by doing what has to be done in order to experience life`s existence "With" another.
Yes there is one from where all this unfolds, yet the unfolding is the actual evolvment we as individuals experience in, with each other. Yes there are no real others but in this moment by moment of appearing happening is actually a coming together of what is, felt by the manyness of the one pure energy, we experience. Or the existence of eternity/god.
So is michael the thinker of thoughts~No: but a collector of thoughts to ease the disease,even to keep a story falsely alive.
Clearly being experienced @ present.
The illusion is weakening, love is shinning through, diluting, de-solving THE conditioning as we communicate:)
L M:)

[dreamer]

Hi Michael.

Nice :)

What are past and future?

So is michael the thinker of thoughts~No: but a collector of thoughts to ease the disease,even to keep a story falsely alive.

What is Michael?

Warm regards Vivi

[Unity]

What are past and future?

Probably what the false "thought~ful", thinks it knows everything mindless self thinks of, as the story of others by others unfolds.
Self referencing points which are now gone, or are perceived to be coming.
Yes: no such thing as P & F but mind requires his~story to carry on development.As with each indivi~dual, you know us humans.
Discovering from P& evolving in the present leading into the unknown future of unfoldment.

What is Michael?

A name, a label, an idiot, a experiencer.

[dreamer]

Past and future are thoughts only
others are thoughts also
mind are thought
mind requiring - thought

Most of the time we seem to live in the future or the past, a world of thoughts. Desires or fears belongs to past or future.

Others seem to be perceived. You feel you can see that there are others and that those others are like you. Direct experience done in the way I have explaned to you - looking behind thoughts, believes, assumptions - means being in the now - just as Benthino talked about - in the now you have no idea of others. You can hear sounds and feeling touches, but there are no knowing of others. When you open your eyes you seem to be able to see others, they can tell you what they feel and think - but there are NO way you can directly experience their feelings or know their thoughts. All you can is assume what they talk about.
Try it now please.

Michael is a name, a label, an idiot, an experiencer - all thoughts

Are Michael the thinker of thought? Look DE

Hi Ho
Vivi

[Unity]

Past and future are thoughts only
others are thoughts also
mind are thought
mind requiring - thought

Easy when you know how.
Conditioned mind requiring thought to keep illusion seemingly alive and real?

Most of the time we seem to live in the future or the past, a world of thoughts. Desires or fears belongs to past or future.

Thought there was no P & F?
To those who appear to have these thoughts they are as real as real can seem.

looking behind thoughts, believes, assumptions - means being in the now -

Yes but the now is V dificult to stay with, even though in it is what we are.
You keep pointing at nothing is here when in fact everything is here right now and now, yet doing life at present is not staying present with the present, as conditioned mind thought collector is fooling the fools.

in the now you have no idea of others.

Yes: only if recognised and not distracted by other happening experiencing.

but there are no knowing of others.

There is to this bloody me.

When you open your eyes you seem to be able to see others,

Yes: my feelings are the same as every~one`s, only at different degrees.

they can tell you what they feel and think

How can they tell me when they don`t exist?

but there are NO way you can directly experience their feelings or know their thoughts.

Indirectly I can, because I have empathy?

All you can is assume what they talk about.

I feel I do know. Uncontented, incomplete, waiting!

Michael is a name, a label, an idiot, an experiencer - all thoughts

Thought Michael was a label?

Are Michael the thinker of thought?

A couple of them.
Hi ho back at yer;) Oh I`m talking to meself;)

[dreamer]

Tell me what thoughts Michael/you can think.

Empathy, yes.......empathy is thoughts of what others experience, based on thoughts of what thoughts call your own experience. Sometimes they seem to be right, sometimes they seem to be wrong wrong. If it seems that they are mostly right, thoughts appear saying: I am good at having empathy with others.
All of it thoughts!

Please sit down for some moments and watch thoughts.

Vivi

[dreamer]

When your wife tell about her feelings, do you know exactly how she feels?
Really KNOW.
Or do you THINK that you get a picture of how it must be to be her in that moment?

[dreamer]

When your children tell you about an experience, do you know exactly how their experience was?
Really KNOW.
Or do you THINK that you can imagine what it must have been like?

[Unity]

Tell me what thoughts Michael/you can think.

Recalling thoughts which have been thought are always, happening.
When someone is watching you do something, you are aware/thinking about being watched, this has an effect on your performance.Think about it? Thinking happens all the time.
Individuals all think the same, feel the same, just different degrees of thought filled emotions. Some dwell on negative thoughts longer than others. Some are comfortable day dreaming "thinking" about holidays, tomorrow, yesterday, presently I am thinking about what I write.
Thinking and others are SO here in the here of now. This is how it seems to the "me" Michael.
You would "think" by now, after all the pointing that`s been pointed to, I ought to have grasped this by now?

Please sit down for some moments and watch thoughts.

How do you watch a thought? Thought arises out of stimulation of one of the sense organs. Also yes they appear from nowhere and these are the profoundest sometimes.Rare yet available as they are noticed.
When my wife and children, inform me of their feelings, I can easily know them, because I go over board,sensitivity, is to have a sense more intent than they do. I believe, which is why we are all happy;) I think. Loving them is what I do best, respecting them and looking out for them, is so important.
Letting go and being one, appears wrong for some apparent reason?
Yet why do I search for such oneness, when I think I`v already got it?
Separate me from the illusion, please!
Happy Friday;) L M:)

[dreamer]

I can't separate from illusion

[dreamer]

On page 8 you write this:

Thoughts arise for some apparent reason, yet mostly they are simply flowing in and out of conciousness, recognising them with mind, yet realising that they are meaningless, unless one reacts out of them.
Arising from within experience.