Freedom from suffering

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Gman
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Re: Freedom from suffering

Postby Gman » Sat Nov 12, 2022 9:37 pm

There is no I , what is here then?
Just space
How things happen?
They just do - life just happens

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Re: Freedom from suffering

Postby Lubo » Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:39 am

There is no I , what is here then?
Just space
What is this which appears in the space?
How far are you from it?
What separates you from it?

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Re: Freedom from suffering

Postby Gman » Sun Nov 13, 2022 1:21 pm

What is this which appears in the space?
Everything
How far are you from it?
There is no distance - everything is together in the space
What separates you from it?
Nothing. There is no separation

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Re: Freedom from suffering

Postby Lubo » Sun Nov 13, 2022 1:59 pm

Thank you.

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Re: Freedom from suffering

Postby Gman » Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:02 pm

To whom thoughts speaking to?
Thoughts don't speak. They just happen. There is no whom to hear them.

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Re: Freedom from suffering

Postby Lubo » Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:28 pm

LoL :)
Nice.

Ok. Here it is the final questions:
1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form?
Was there ever?

2) Give in your own words what the illusion of separate self is and how it shows up in experience.

3) How does it feel to see this?
What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over; made you look?

5) a) Describe decision,
intention,
free will,
choice and control.
What makes things happen? How does it work?
Give examples from your own recent experiences to how things happen and how things work.

b) What are you responsible for? Give examples from your own recent experiences to how this works.

6) Anything to add?
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Re: Freedom from suffering

Postby Gman » Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:16 pm

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form?
No
Was there ever?
No
2) Give in your own words what the illusion of separate self is and how it shows up in experience.
It only exists in thoughts and labels. With thoughts and labels, it creates emotions and suffering.
3) How does it feel to see this?
It leads to peace
What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.
An example - before starting, I had a list of items in a web site’s cart knowing there would be a sale soon. The sale
came and went twice – I had no desire for those items I previously thought I needed. And still don’t
4) What was the last bit that pushed you over; made you look?
Your questions. Reading some of them, reinforces there is no self then laugher. Was reading a book and the
author was discussing teacher and student questions. One of the possible questions for the student was – what
color is your mind? - Instantly starting laughing.
5) a) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control.
They are thoughts and labels
What makes things happen? How does it work?
Life happens
Give examples from your own recent experiences to how things happen and how things work.
Typing this response is just happening. In awareness, life just unfolds
b) What are you responsible for? Give examples from your own recent experiences to how this works.
There is no “I” to be responsible. Life just happens

6) Anything to add?
Thank you


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