Realisation please. Thank you

[Adi]

Hi Stacy,

Have you read any of Liberation Unleashed? Or Gateless Gatecrashers?

I have tried to read the Gatless Crushers but didn’t proceed. I felt distanced from it and too conceptual. It did make me stop looking for non-duality books, which I’m happy about... should I proceed reading it you think?

Always focus on how does it FEEL to see there is no self. What is found?

Only what is right now.

Which DropBox pointer are you doing now?

Number 8: Chaos Creators

How does that FEEL?

I didn’t feel anything yet but that’s because I’ll have to listen again and probably another time till I have less resistance to getting it.
Thank you
Adi

[Anastacia42]

Hi,

Gatless Crushers but didn’t proceed. I felt distanced from it and too conceptual. It did make me stop looking for non-duality books, which I’m happy about... should I proceed reading it you think?

It's full of the experiences of those who are guided to seeing. Some people SEE just reading it.

Good. Seeking is dropping away.

Only what is right now.

And what, exactly in Direct Experience is that "right now?" Meaning this right now, not when you last wrote. Not generalities. Be specific.

Yes, it can be good to read those to learn what it sounds like as someone shifts into seeing. Look for the shifts in each person. What is different?

Loving,

[Adi]

And what, exactly in Direct Experience is that "right now?" Meaning this right now, not when you last wrote. Not generalities. Be specific.

Breathing, looking at the screen, hearing typing, feeling the keyboard with my fingers. Obviously by the time I type this it's gone. No mind. No past or future. This.

Yes, it can be good to read those to learn what it sounds like as someone shifts into seeing. Look for the shifts in each person. What is different?

Sorry, I don't understand the question.

Thank you
Adi

[Anastacia42]

Okay...

One word at a time, which of these words are a STORY, made up? Which are DE?

Breathing
looking
at the screen
hearing
typing
feeling
the keyboard
with
my
fingers.

time
I
type
this
it's
gone.

No
mind.
No
past
future.
This

Copy the list & label each item.

You replied with a lot of stories mixed in.

Yes, it can be good to read those to learn what it sounds like as someone shifts into seeing. Look for the shifts in each person. What is different?
Sorry, I don't understand the question.

Every chapter in the book is showing the dialog that happened when someone woke up to seeing no self. You can actually read exactly where that happened. I want to know where that happened in each one and what sounds different in their replies?


Loving,

[Adi]

One word at a time, which of these words are a STORY, made up? Which are DE?

Ok.
Breathing- DE
looking - DE
at the screen- not sure if it is or not.
hearing - DE
typing- story
feeling- story
the keyboard - story
with- probably a story
my- story
fingers. Not sure

time- Story
I- story
type- story
this not a story
it's not sure
gone. not sure

No- not sure
mind. story
past story
future story
This- DE

what sounds different in their replies?

I will have to read and let you know. I think that I did not believe their seeing, those that I have read. But I probably project my own things.

Thanks
Adi

[Anastacia42]

Okay, sort of. Please do the list again & say *which* DE like you did in one of the first exercises. I was not specific enough.

We are only interested in looking at and seeing what is actually going on in your present moment-to-moment experience. We are only interested in your Direct Experience in the moment..

Direct or Actual Experience is

Seeing
Hearing
Feeling (Sensation, not emotion. Emotion is Sensation plus made-up thoughts & labels)
Tasting
Smelling
Thoughts Arising (but not their content)

For each word, choose from either the 6 DE above or say it's a story. The purpose of the exercise is for you to answer ALL questions this same way. ONLY DE is useful. Everything else, including "self" is made up.

That's why we did all of these first - to practice for ALL LOOKING & ALL ANSWERS.

Answers aren't important, except to help me guide you. Only LOOKING is important.

Hint: "screen" is made up, but color & image are AE. WHY? Those exist whether you have a name for them or not. Same with all AE.

"Breathing" is NOT DE . But Sensation is DE.

what sounds different in their replies?
I will have to read and let you know. I think that I did not believe their seeing, those that I have read. But I probably project my own things.

Their SEEING was so clear, it was included in the book as an example to learn from.

We are retraining your thinking to see what IS or what's true & stop believing the made up stories. Only then will you have the "realization" you have asked for here.

Loving,

Loving,

[Adi]

Ok, thanks.

Breathing- Feeling
looking - Story
at the screen- Story
Hearing - Hearing
typing- story
feeling- story
the keyboard - story
with- story
my- story
fingers. feeling

time- Story
I- story
type- story
this story
it's -Story
gone. story

No- Story
mind - Story
past - Story
future - Story
This- Story

Their SEEING was so clear, it was included in the book as an example to learn from.

I initially started reading after seeing Christiane's post about it. She said it made her realise by page 20 and that she also used the 10 fetters. I now started reading it again.

Thank you
Adi

[Anastacia42]

Okay! Much better.

But "looking" and "feeling " IF body Sensation... are DE. They're right there in the list. Look back, please.

Loving,

[Adi]

Yes, I thought looking is the action of looking, hence can be questioned. Feeling is similar to thought, where you only say there's thought but not specify the content. That I understand better.
Thank you
Adi

[Anastacia42]

I hope you can go to this:

Meeting with Ilona. You're invited.

Sunday, October 9 at 7 to 9 pm Mauritius Time, UTC +4
On Zoom

Here is an invitation to meet on Zoom and be together.
Whatever you bring - a question, an emotion, or tension is welcome. There is something very powerful about having a welcoming space in a group where you can explore safely and feel supported.

You are very welcome to join, just email me for a link on admin@ilonaciunaite.com. Same link for all meetings.

See you there! ❤️
Ilona

[Anastacia42]

Hi Adi,

It's been a week.

What has been happening?

Loving,

[Anastacia42]

Oops, I was on an older post.

Did you make it to Ilona's meeting? I missed it.

Loving,

[Adi]

Hi Stacy,
No, I did not attend.
I am still reading the Gatecrashers and am also doing direct experience exercises during the day.
Thank you
Adi

[Anastacia42]

Thank you for checking in.

It is most helpful to report with a lot more than just the facts of what you're doing. Please post how it feels. what you're noticing, what is changing, et cetera.

Thank you!

Much love,

[Adi]

Please post how it feels. what you're noticing, what is changing, et cetera.

Direct experience with the senses makes me feel free. There’s only smelling when I’m checking smelling, only tasting etc. Only when I am doing it though. But there are also moments in the day when I’m in my mind and I’m catching myself and asking myself is there really a “me”. What is me, where is “me”. I have the feeling of uncertainty of the me that I feel I am, however it’s not enough. I still have faith in a “me” and I’ll probably need to practice till something makes me lose doubt completely.
Regarding Gatecrashers I am partly envious, partly doubting peoples’ realisation but as I stated before, it’s me and my belief.
Thank you
Adi