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It's not controlled by the separate Self. It starts with an intention and then the automatic nervous system does the rest.
WHAT "separate self? ' Is any such thing as a "separate self"? If not, why refer to it doing anything?
You are right, I was rationalizing (separate self = ego). I meant that the hand flipping happens without the arising of thoughts to control it.
LOOK for this intention. Intention is a thought, right?
I'm calling intention to what triggers the hand flipping. Before I read the exercise my hand was not flipping and only when I read it and intended to do it my hand started flipping. This intention is the trigger that has a different quality or pathway of a thought, it's subtler than a thought and not so easy to observe.
There must be an external trigger (the request to do the exercise) and an internal trigger (the intention to do it) for the hand flipping to happen.How does this thought cause anything?
how wonderful if every aspect of my everyday life could run in automatic mode in such an easy way!
Yes, that's the case. In certain situations thinking gets in the way and delays action.What if it is already doing this & only your thinking gets in the way? LOOK and see this. Here is a pointer to help:
Stream Exercise
Imagine for a moment a scene, one of a little mountain stream which is tumbling down a hillside gully, not far from its source. It has been raining and so the level is quite high.
Consider in your mind's eye, if you can, how it flows to the right over a little rock (where, had the level been lower, it would probably have gone around the rock), then the flow goes to the left over a tree bow, and then slows a little in a broader place, before splashing over a small cascade into a pool, and so on down the mountain side.
No, it follows the path of less resistance. No, it's the same entity.Does it choose any of its directions? Is it even really a separate entity different from the water deposited in it, the rocks, the depressions in the ground etc? Is it even the same entity moment by moment, or more the product of weather conditions and water, like an ever-changing pattern?
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No, I can't. Everything is a co-creation.Can you find anywhere where "AtmaJnani" autonomously intervenes into life, choosing something that is not the product of all the elements; that is not a part of the overall flow?
2. Now please consider a regular decision made eg; what to wear in the morning, or what to eat for lunch, and describe to me what happens. There are environmental factors, there are colour preferences (but where did those come from - any autonomous intervention there perhaps?), practical issues (such as what is available), available time for preparation, purpose (eg; need to fill up for the day, or to look hip and cool for that person!) etc.
Where in there is an autonomous entity intervening in the flow of life? Can you find someone somewhere?
No, it's all a co-creation. Great!
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Every action has a consequence. If every action is a co-creation, then I'm co-responsible for the consequences.Can anything be found for which 'AtmaJnani' is responsible – if so responsible to what and for what?
That just means I have to accept the consequences without resistance.
I still have difficulty to say I'm not responsible.
