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Luchana
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Re: See through the illusion

Postby Luchana » Sat May 21, 2022 1:38 pm

Hi Luhelen,
Does the character choose this story?
the character seems to be exist. No one is choosing . The story seems to be unfolding
Can it chooses another story, a different one, instead of what already is?
The character seems to be exist. Story seems to be unfolding
And no one is choosing anything?

If you can't choose thoughts, feeelings, different story what is there to choose?

What makes things happen?

How does it work?


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Luchana
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Re: See through the illusion

Postby Luhelen » Mon May 23, 2022 2:50 pm

Dear Luchana,
And no one is choosing anything?
Yes, no one


If you can't choose thoughts, feeelings, different story what is there to choose?
No one is choosing ,it happens by itself


What makes things happen?
I have no idea


How does it work?
It happens by itself


Lots love from Luhelen

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Re: See through the illusion

Postby Luchana » Tue May 24, 2022 10:03 am

Hi Luhelen,

thank you for your answers. They seem a little bit short, which is fine, but I would like to know some more.

Can you share how life feels when you are not looking at the questions, rather mooving in the midst of dayly activities?

Is there any difference from before?

Is there a change in relationships?

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Luchana
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Re: See through the illusion

Postby Luhelen » Tue May 24, 2022 1:23 pm

Dear Luchana,
Can you share how life feels when you are not looking at the questions, rather mooving in the midst of dayly activities?
Not taking matters seriously. Feeling of worries, anticipating probably rise up off and on.Let things happen by itself.
Lazy to argue with people.

Is there any difference from before?
Not taking matters seriously.
For example: I had a very strong stomach ache almost fainted that day. No fear, let it be, let it going on .life will take care by itself.
I had the same experience before this, it was a great fear at that time .

I
s there a change in relationships?
No changes at all.


Lots love from Luhelen

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Re: See through the illusion

Postby Luchana » Wed May 25, 2022 7:54 am

Hi Luhelen,
Not taking matters seriously. Feeling of worries, anticipating probably rise up off and on.Let things happen by itself.
Lazy to argue with people.
Nice :-) Let's look at people/other

There are different people and is there separation between those?
When agruing or simply chatting - are there two selves chatting?

If there is no separate self in Helen - is there separate self in the "other"?




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Luchana
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Re: See through the illusion

Postby Luhelen » Fri May 27, 2022 9:42 am

Dear Luchana,

There are different people and is there separation between those?
Intellectually I understand that there’s no separation between those people.
Still , there are doubts arise about that.
The answer is :not sure of others

When agruing or simply chatting - are there two selves chatting?
Intellectually I understand that there’s no two selves chatting
Still , there are doubts arise about that.
The answer is :not sure

If there is no separate self in Helen - is there separate self in the "other"?
Helen can see things happened in Helen with no separation but not sure of other


Lots love from Luhelen

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Re: See through the illusion

Postby Luchana » Sat May 28, 2022 9:55 am

Hi Luhelen,
Still , there are doubts arise about that.
It is ok..Look

What make these doubts yours?

How doubts appear here?

Is there a boundary between the thougths, sensations and reactions of Luhelen.
Are they separate from life?



Than look at the seemingly other people - where is the boundary?
How they are separate from life?
Is there a dividing line?
If yes - where exactly?


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Luchana
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Re: See through the illusion

Postby Luhelen » Tue May 31, 2022 7:14 am

Dear Luchana,
What make these doubts yours?
When I was asked whether other people separated among themselves,
Really ,I am not sure .
Through observation of others, they act same as Luhelen, they eat, they see, they talk, they argue & etc.
How doubts appear here?
When question was asked as above.
Luhelen unable to know what actually happen to other people .
Is there a boundary between the thougths, sensations and reactions of Luhelen.
There’s No boundary between the thoughts, sensations and reactions of Luhelen
Are they separate from life?
No.

Lots love from Luhelen

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Re: See through the illusion

Postby Luchana » Tue May 31, 2022 7:48 pm

Hi Luhelen,
What make these doubts yours?
When I was asked whether other people separated among themselves,
Really ,I am not sure .
Through observation of others, they act same as Luhelen, they eat, they see, they talk, they argue & etc.
How doubts appear here?
When question was asked as above.
Luhelen unable to know what actually happen to other people .
There is missunderstanding here, but that's ok.
The question is about a doubt.
So let me ask you differently.

Are there any doubts that there is nothing more than a thought about me, Luhelen?
Is it possible to find something more than a thought when it is looked at?


Look very carefully for a whole day.
Is there something more than a thought?

Much love,
Luchana
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Re: See through the illusion

Postby Luhelen » Sun Jun 05, 2022 8:23 am

Dear Luchana,

Are there any doubts that there is nothing more than a thought about me, Luhelen?
Every thought is connected with Luhelen .
For example: Luhelen feel doubts about XXXX, YYYY

Is it possible to find something more than a thought when it is looked at?
Not possible, besides thought,non other than thought

Look very carefully for a whole day.
Is there something more than a thought?
No more.

Lots love from Luhelen

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Re: See through the illusion

Postby Luchana » Sun Jun 05, 2022 3:06 pm

Hi Luhelen,
Every thought is connected with Luhelen .
For example: Luhelen feel doubts about XXXX, YYYY

And what EXACTLY is Luhelen?
What is the experience of Luhelen?


Much love,
Luchana
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Re: See through the illusion

Postby Luhelen » Wed Jun 08, 2022 2:12 am

Dear Luchana,


,

And what EXACTLY is Luhelen?
Luhelen is a label on this body appears as a center of her story.
In fact it’s just a thought


What is the experience of Luhelen?
Luhelen seemed to experience seeing,smelling,hearing,thinking,touching,sensation and so on.
In fact there’s just a thought said “ I am seeing, I am hearing and so on”


Lots of love from Luhelen

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Re: See through the illusion

Postby Luchana » Wed Jun 08, 2022 10:56 am

Hi Luhelen,

you did a good looking.

Luhelen seemed to experience seeing,smelling,hearing,thinking,touching,sensation and so on.
In fact there’s just a thought said “ I am seeing, I am hearing and so on”
How about responsability?
What is Luhelen responsabile for?


ps. this Saturday we are going to have a whole day looking (3 meetings), you are most welcome to join if you have an impluls.
Here you can find details

https://awakeningawakened.com/2022/06/0 ... t-finding/
Much love,
Luchana
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Re: See through the illusion

Postby Luhelen » Thu Jun 09, 2022 12:44 am

Dear Luchana,
How about responsability?
Things happen by itself, nobody has to be responsible


What is Luhelen responsabile for?
Luhelen did nothing, things happen by itself. Nothing for Luhelen to responsible.
Luhelen appears to be responsible to her family, jobs, but when see clearly ,things happen by itself.

Lots love from Luhelen

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Re: See through the illusion

Postby Luchana » Thu Jun 09, 2022 6:32 am

Hi Luhelen,
How about responsability?
Things happen by itself, nobody has to be responsible
What is Luhelen responsabile for?
Luhelen did nothing, things happen by itself. Nothing for Luhelen to responsible.
Luhelen appears to be responsible to her family, jobs, but when see clearly ,things happen by itself.
All right. But is it possible Luhelen to not take care about her family, jobs and so on?
Is there a choise to be or not to be responsabile?


Much love,
Luchana
If you wonder what it’s like living nonduality in everyday life?
https://awakeningawakened.com/2022/10/2 ... onduality/


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