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Luhelen
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Re: See through the illusion

Postby Luhelen » Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:33 am

Dear Luchana,
How responsability appears in all this?
I don’t see anyone to responsible in all this.


What is Luhelen responsabile for?
I don’t know what is Luhelen responsible for.
Well, Luhelen continue to live in her story, with her family members, with her career, with her friends?

Great! How about Wednesday arround 8 pm your time (just share the exact time zone and I will check it here)
Kuala Lumpur time 8pm


Lots of love from Luhelen

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Re: See through the illusion

Postby Luchana » Mon Apr 25, 2022 1:44 pm

Hi Luhelen,

I don’t know what is Luhelen responsible for.
Well, Luhelen continue to live in her story, with her family members, with her career, with her friends?

Is Luhelen responsible for relationship with family members, friends and career developing?

Are there two things here?
Luhelen and story?
Is Luhelen separate from the story?


Kuala Lumpur time 8pm
All right :-) See you Wednesday 8 pm your time.

Much love,
Luchana
If you wonder what it’s like living nonduality in everyday life?
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Re: See through the illusion

Postby Luhelen » Tue Apr 26, 2022 7:14 am

Dear Luchana,
Is Luhelen responsible for relationship with family members, friends and career developing?
look at this Luhelen, who is she? A label pasted on this body. She do nothing throughout her life, things happen by itself including functioning on her body, relationship with family members,friends and career.since she did not do anything , nothing to responsible.

Are there two things here?
They are one.


Luhelen and story?
Without Luhelen,there’s no story, they are not separated

Is Luhelen separate from the story?
Without Luhelen,there’s no story, they are not separated.

All right :-) See you Wednesday 8 pm your time.
See you :-)



Lots of love from Luhelen

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Re: See through the illusion

Postby Luchana » Tue Apr 26, 2022 6:03 pm

Hi Luhelen,
look at this Luhelen, who is she? A label pasted on this body. She do nothing throughout her life, things happen by itself including functioning on her body, relationship with family members,friends and career.since she did not do anything , nothing to responsible.
How does it feel to not be responsible?

Are others responsabile?


And until tomorrow :-)


Much love,
Luchana
If you wonder what it’s like living nonduality in everyday life?
https://awakeningawakened.com/2022/10/2 ... onduality/

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Re: See through the illusion

Postby Luhelen » Wed Apr 27, 2022 1:35 am

Dear Luchana,
How does it feel to not be responsible?
Feeling Less stressed, less worried, whatever happen, let it be, what a relief .

Are others responsabile?
I can’t see whether they have any responsibilities or not.


Lots love from Luhelen

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Re: See through the illusion

Postby Luchana » Wed Apr 27, 2022 8:55 am

Hi Luhelen.
I can’t see whether they have any responsibilities or not.
If there is no Luhelen to be responsible - are there any others?
Are there separate entities in "others?"




Much love,
Luchana
If you wonder what it’s like living nonduality in everyday life?
https://awakeningawakened.com/2022/10/2 ... onduality/

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Re: See through the illusion

Postby Luhelen » Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:11 am

Dear Luchana,
If there is no Luhelen to be responsible - are there any others?
Oh yes, things happen by itself, neither Luhelen nor others to responsible.
Are there separate entities in "others?"
It seems there are Luhelen, Luhelen’s family members, Luhelen’s friends, Luhelen’s career appeared as separated entities , they are to responsible among each other . Since things happen by itself, no one to responsible.

Lots love from Luhelen

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Re: See through the illusion

Postby Luchana » Wed Apr 27, 2022 12:50 pm

Hi Luhelen,
I am in a trafick..probably will late 10 to 15 min...
Just to know
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Re: See through the illusion

Postby Luhelen » Wed Apr 27, 2022 12:52 pm

Dear Luchana,

It’s okay

Lots love from Luhelen

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Re: See through the illusion

Postby Luhelen » Wed Apr 27, 2022 2:08 pm

Dear Luchana,

I really enjoyed the chat.

It’s So impressed .

My email is helenchankam@yahoo.com

Lots love from Luhelen

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Re: See through the illusion

Postby Luchana » Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:54 pm

Dear Luhelen,

thank you for your kind words. I also really enjoyed the meeting.
Oh yes, things happen by itself, neither Luhelen nor others to responsible.

What makes things happen than?
How does it work?

And
Can you say that the self is seen to be an illusion or are there any doubts?


Much love,
Luchana

ps.
And I will send you details about the weekend on the mail.
If you wonder what it’s like living nonduality in everyday life?
https://awakeningawakened.com/2022/10/2 ... onduality/

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Re: See through the illusion

Postby Luhelen » Thu Apr 28, 2022 1:43 am

Dear Luchana,

What makes things happen than?
Things just happen like that, without my invitation, without my expectations, without my planning, can’t see what makes things happen, can’t explain , can’t comprehend either. Any explanation,any comprehension will be a story by thoughts.

How does it work?
It just happens like that.
And
Can you say that the self is seen to be an illusion or are there any doubts?
Frankly speaking,There’s a sense of “self” but I Can’t find it’s face . (The sensed of self is faint recently )
A Thing that can’t be seen considered as illusion such as unicorn, right?
doubts are still popping up ,either negative or positive ,
Hmm, just let them passing by.

Lots love from Luhelen

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Re: See through the illusion

Postby Luchana » Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:16 am

Hi Luhelen,
Frankly speaking,There’s a sense of “self” but I Can’t find it’s face . (The sensed of self is faint recently )
I see what you are saing. Let's dive into this sense.


Does the sense of self have a location?

Does the sense of self have a shape or a size?

Does the sense of self say or communicate anything?

If the answer is yes, how does the sense do this exactly?

Does the sense of self have any characteristics or attributes?

What is the sense of self ‘made of’? An image? Sound? Taste? Smell? Sensation? Thought?


Can you look these question one by one and reply each of them individually.


Take your time, watch like a cat is hunting a mouse and have fun :-)

Much love,
Luchana
If you wonder what it’s like living nonduality in everyday life?
https://awakeningawakened.com/2022/10/2 ... onduality/

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Re: See through the illusion

Postby Luchana » Fri Apr 29, 2022 12:16 pm

Hi again,

just to share that I've sent you an email with info for the weekend.
The mail is from luchanauzunova@gmail.com

Much love,
Luchana
If you wonder what it’s like living nonduality in everyday life?
https://awakeningawakened.com/2022/10/2 ... onduality/

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Re: See through the illusion

Postby Luhelen » Fri Apr 29, 2022 11:02 pm

Dear Luchana,

Does the sense of self have a location?
Can’t find any location.

Does the sense of self have a shape or a size?
Can’t see shape or size

Does the sense of self say or communicate anything?
Can’t hear anything from it

If the answer is yes, how does the sense do this exactly?
Answer is no

Does the sense of self have any characteristics or attributes?
Can’t see it’s characteristic or attributes

What is the sense of self ‘made of’? An image? Sound? Taste? Smell? Sensation? Thought?
I Have no idea at all , most probably it is just a thought


Lots of love from Luhelen


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