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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Asheshjain » Wed Mar 30, 2022 7:04 am

Hello mam.
Happy summer.
Q-How does it feel.
A- i will say that for some period of time it feels great,oneness
, Joyful.but still thoughts arises and thoughts draw attention from present to past or future.
Though life is on lighter mode.
Q-what makes things happen
A- things,events happens by itself,from emptiness.
Q-How does it works
A- spontaneously.without any control.
Q-what are you responsible for
A- no one owns responsible.as things happen spontaneous.
Q- look what is not arising
A- nothing and everything .

Me- the label arises from past memories,past feelings and registered opinions about various things.me itself is past,in present moment there's only life,as it is.but me by past memories give name and category to present happening.
. Thoughts, memories, feelings, desires, opinions
arises from void, dissolve in void.whatever arises disappears immediately in nothing.

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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Luchana » Wed Mar 30, 2022 11:48 am

Hi,
i will say that for some period of time it feels great,oneness
, Joyful.but still thoughts arises and thoughts draw attention from present to past or future.
Is there an expectation that thougths will stop arrising?

What can a thought do?

Can thougths really draw attention?

And what is time (in this very moment)?
How time is experienced?
What is past and future?
How past or future is experienced?
Does past or future ‘exists’ other than contents of thoughts?
Is there a proof that you had dinner last night?
Is there any experiential proof whatsoever that the past has ever happened?


Thoughts, memories, feelings, desires, opinions
arises from void, dissolve in void.whatever arises disappears immediately in nothing.
How "void" shows up at experience?


Take your time and reply each question individually.

Much love,
Luchana
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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Asheshjain » Thu Mar 31, 2022 11:55 am

Hello mam.
Good day.
Q-is there an expectation that thougths will stop arrising?
A- Thoughts will not stop,but don't they draw attention from present moment to past?
Q-What can a thought do?

Can thougths really draw attention?
A-i think yes,e g.if there is thought regarding delicious cake,our attention will be diverted to eating or getting cake.
Q-And what is time (in this very moment)?
How time is experienced?
What is past and future?
How past or future is experienced?
A- things continuously Chang, noticing this change is time.in present moment there's no time.in present moment time is not expirenced,but the change we can notice.past is memories, future is expectations.they appears as Thoughts.
Q-does past or future ‘exists’ other than contents of thoughts?
A- yes

Q- is there a proof that you had dinner last night?
A- in memory it's there,one can take photos for proof.
Q-Is there any experiential proof whatsoever that the past has ever happened?
A-cant understand ,only by memories one can say .

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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Luchana » Fri Apr 01, 2022 11:07 am

Hi,

i think yes,e g.if there is thought regarding delicious cake,our attention will be diverted to eating or getting cake.
You think or you check how it is in experience?


Focus on focusing, attention itself.
Is there anything moving attention, or it moves by itself?
Is there a focus-er?

Hold focus on breath - see how it moves to thoughts, sensations, sounds.
Is there something controlling it?
What moves attention?
Is thought in control of attention?


A- things continuously Chang, noticing this change is time.in present moment there's no time.in present moment time is not expirenced,but the change we can notice.past is memories, future is expectations.they appears as Thoughts.
What is memory?
How memory is experienced at this very moment?

Is there a time - present, past or future apart from thought?

What is present moment?
Is there such thing as present moment?


Much love,
Luchana
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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Asheshjain » Sat Apr 02, 2022 4:17 am

Hello Luchana mam.how are you.
Q-You think or you check how it is in experience?
A-As soon as something appears in the field ,it may be something or some thought,there is attention.but attention moves by itself.
Q-Focus on focusing, attention itself.
Is there anything moving attention, or it moves by itself?
Is there a focus-er?
A- Apparently it seems like there is focuser.but looking deeply,there is no foccuser,focus(attention) moves by itself.
Q-Hold focus on breath - see how it moves to thoughts, sensations, sounds.
Is there something controlling it?
What moves attention?
Is thought in control of attention?
A- Yes attention moves spontaneously to thoughts, sensations
Sounds.nothing controlling attention.attention moves by itself
Thought is not in control of attention.
Thoughts,things,sounds are not different from attention.
What is memory?
Q-How memory is experienced at this very moment?
A- memories are images and appears as Thoughts
Q-is there a time - present, past or future apart from thought?

What is present moment?
Is there such thing as present moment?
A-in direct experience time is not felt,what is not felt is created
By thoughts.no present moment in direct experience.

Thought and memories are very useful also.without that one will not able to find his home.will not able to travel.will not able to collect,food and helpful things for use in near future.without thoughts and memories there want be any future planning.there will not be any difference between human and donkey,or buffalo. So duality is also happening for such purposes.
Thanks for listening (reading) this.

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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Luchana » Sat Apr 02, 2022 8:39 pm

Hi,
As soon as something appears in the field ,it may be something or some thought,there is attention.but attention moves by itself.
Apparently it seems like there is focuser.but looking deeply,there is no foccuser,focus(attention) moves by itself.
Nice :-)
Yes attention moves spontaneously to thoughts, sensations
Sounds.nothing controlling attention.attention moves by itself
Thought is not in control of attention.
Thoughts,things,sounds are not different from attention.
Even nicer :-)
You did a very good looking.
Thought and memories are very useful also.without that one will not able to find his home.will not able to travel.will not able to collect,food and helpful things for use in near future.without thoughts and memories there want be any future planning.there will not be any difference between human and donkey,or buffalo. So duality is also happening for such purposes.
Is this coming from direct experience?
Or it is something you've learn and believe to be true?


There is no you or me even now and finding home is happening, traveling is happening, making plans is happening. Thoughts are useful but they are just describing what's happening.


Does thougth about a future makes a future something real?



Thanks for listening (reading) this.
You are most welcome :-)

Much love,
Luchana
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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Asheshjain » Sun Apr 03, 2022 2:39 pm

Hello mam.how are you.
Q- is this coming from direct experience?
Or it is something you've learn and believe to be true?
A- memories and thoughts are useful - is a direct experience,but there is no control over them, thoughts are happening by itself,
Q-
Does thougth about a future makes a future something real?
A- i don't get the question exactly,but there is some system in which thoughts of future and future planning arises,like for competitive exams ,one has to do preparation.but I guess that until there is "me" there will be future thoughts and planning.
Because of false sense of me,linear time is felt,past present and future is felt.
As soon as process of looking through illusion starts,idea of time start falling.
Images of person hood ,is also due to illusion,if seen through illusion, imaginary person will collapse.

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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Luchana » Mon Apr 04, 2022 1:08 pm

Hi,

I'm good, thanks for asking :-)
memories and thoughts are useful - is a direct experience,but there is no control over them, thoughts are happening by itself,
How memory comes here now?
What is the direct experience of "memory?


I don't get the question exactly,but there is some system in which thoughts of future and future planning arises,like for competitive exams ,one has to do preparation.but I guess that until there is "me" there will be future thoughts and planning.
But there is no you or me even now and there are "future thoughts and planning"

The question is what is future right now in this very moment?
What is the direct experience of a future?
Is it something REAL or it is here only as a content of thought?


Images of person hood ,is also due to illusion,if seen through illusion, imaginary person will collapse.
How can something which was never there to collaps?
What do you expect to happen really?

Look now honestly for just a second - where is this person that you are speaking about?
Where exactly?


Much love,
Luchana
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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Asheshjain » Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:01 pm

Hi.good morning.
Q-How memory comes here now?
What is the direct experience of "memory?
A- memories creates images - of events already happened.memories are past remembering.memories are name ,form and opinions registered.so it directly affect present,seeing a 🌹 rose , memories will tell that this is rose,it's red ,etc.
Q-The question is what is future right now in this very moment?
What is the direct experience of a future?
Is it something REAL or it is here only as a content of thought
A- in this moment there is no future,
Future can't be experienced.
Future is thought,but one can guess and expect regarding future.like day comes after night, season changes one after another,one start traveling will reach somewhere after some hours,etc.
Q-how can something which was never there to collaps?
What do you expect to happen really?
A- me is like ghost,it's not really there but feeling happen like it's there.looking deeply,directly is solution to it.

Q-look now honestly for just a second - where is this person that you are speaking about?
Where exactly?
A- in imaginations and thoughts?.
Probably i may not seeing through illusion.
Or seeing but not working.

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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Luchana » Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:37 pm

Hi,
What is the direct experience of "memory?
A- memories creates images - of events already happened.memories are past remembering.memories are name ,form and opinions registered.so it directly affect present,seeing a 🌹 rose , memories will tell that this is rose,it's red ,etc
.
Yes, this is how memory=thoughts appears but not Self or?
Is it posible thought to be also self?
seeing a 🌹 rose - what appears first - rose or thoughts which says that this is a rose?
Does the thought knows what is seen? Or thoughts are just label mashine for what appears?

Future is thought,but one can guess and expect regarding future.like day comes after night, season changes one after another,one start traveling will reach somewhere after some hours,etc.

Do you realy believe that toughts can expect?
Notice without the story about me can "me" be found?
What do you expect to happen really?
A- me is like ghost,it's not really there but feeling happen like it's there.looking deeply,directly is solution to it.

Q-look now honestly for just a second - where is this person that you are speaking about?
Where exactly?
A- in imaginations and thoughts?.
Probably i may not seeing through illusion.
Or seeing but not working.
Yes the me is like a ghost = imagination, story, no-real, Santa, Batman, unicorn...
So, the me = story. Without the story that me is walking - notice who is walking, the story is walking or?
Which is this body ? Does the body belong to the story? Does the body know this? Who or what creates the story that there is a me? Look at DE?
Which is this story about "My life" Is so called your story?


Much love,
Luchana
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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Asheshjain » Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:38 pm

Hello Luchana mam.
Q-, yes this is how memory=thoughts appears but not Self or?
Is it posible thought to be also self?
seeing a 🌹 rose - what appears first - rose or thoughts which says that this is a rose?
Does the thought knows what is seen? Or thoughts are just label mashine for what appears?
A- Thoughts are not self.
Seeing happens first,followed by its naming by thought.
I remember here your saying-"thing=think".seeing is only being,but seeing a thing is thinking.so thoughts are giving labels.
Q-can you realy believe that toughts can expect?
Notice without the story about me can "me" be found?
A- thoughts arise spontaneously and expectations also arise spontaneously, thoughts creates imaginations and in that imaginations expectations arise,like a story of king is created by thought,than expectations arises about kings.so without the story about me,me will not be there.
Q-Without the story that me is walking - notice who is walking, the story is walking or?
Which is this body ? Does the body belong to the story? Does the body know this? Who or what creates the story that there is a me? Look at DE?
Which is this story about "My life" Is so called your story?
A-- me is story created by thoughts and beliefs.
If we go back to a kid level. actually body is also a name and concept,only walking is noticed or say movement is noticed,there is no sepration ,even this is body is a thought.
Me creates sense of sepration,and than due to sepration,fear , expectations are generated, which in turn creates suffering.
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Much love,
Luchana.
Thanks for love and care🙏

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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Luchana » Thu Apr 07, 2022 12:39 pm

Hi,
Seeing happens first,followed by its naming by thought.
I remember here your saying-"thing=think".seeing is only being,but seeing a thing is thinking.so thoughts are giving labels.
Exactly.
Is there a problem with the labeling?
Is there a separate seER?
An observer witnessing what's being labeled?


If we go back to a kid level. actually body is also a name and concept,only walking is noticed or say movement is noticed,there is no sepration ,even this is body is a thought.
Yes! "Body' is just a label for sensations, that's all.

Does the body experiencing or the body is also ecperienced?

Me creates sense of sepration,and than due to sepration,fear , expectations are generated, which in turn creates suffering.
Is this possible really?
How can something which does not exist to create anything else at all?


Much love,
Luchana
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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Asheshjain » Fri Apr 08, 2022 12:57 pm

Hello mam.happy summer.
Q-is-there a problem with the labeling?
A- yes, labelling is giving past thought (concept,idea, beliefs) to "this".dis allowing ever fresh this moment.
Q-is there a separate seER?
A-seeing happening no seer.
Q-An observer witnessing what's being labeled?
A- observer and a witness is thought, labels are also memories so it's a thought.observation happen.
Q-Does the body experiencing or the body is also ecperienced?
A- in looking-- experiencing happens,if eyes are closed body is not expirenced,if seen,or concentrated on some part of body, sensations happening is seen.body itself is a sensation.
Q-How can something which does not exist to create anything else at all?
A- it's like one illusion creates another,
An imaginary me creates a sense of sepration.
But -- today it's seen that there is no sepration.

Q-

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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Luchana » Sat Apr 09, 2022 7:14 am

Hi,

A- in looking-- experiencing happens,if eyes are closed body is not expirenced,if seen,or concentrated on some part of body, sensations happening is seen.body itself is a sensation.
Exactly!
A- it's like one illusion creates another,
An imaginary me creates a sense of sepration.
But -- today it's seen that there is no sepration.
Yes, separation is just an idea. You did a good observation.
What I would suggest is one day or two to go for a walk somewhere in nature. A small park nearby is a good option also. Walk for a while, sit somewhere and look arround. Trees, flowers, insects, birds, people's chatters, children's playing, sensations in the body, thoughts including the thought of I am sitting, looking and observing- all this is just one happening.
Now look and reply to the following questions:

Can the character chooses what to feel, what to think, whether go for a walk or not?

Does the character choose this story?

Can it chooses another story, a different one, instead of what already is?

Much love,
Luchana
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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Asheshjain » Mon Apr 11, 2022 12:11 pm

Hello mam.
I use to do practice as suggested by you, regarding observing around and see how everything is happening spontaneously.
Q-Can the character chooses what to feel, what to think, whether go for a walk or not?
A- character itself is imaginary thoughts.there are complicated system of thoughts.but no control over it, thoughts arises spontaneously,feeling, thoughts, desires arises spontaneously.
Walking happens following a thought of walking.likewise if there is feeling of hunger, desire for food arises,and thinking about eating and dining arise.
Q-Does the character choose this story?
A- thoughts are the body and clothes of character,
So "character" is "character less" without thoughts 😅,what appears choice of character is actually spontaneous happening.
Q-Can it chooses another story, a different one, instead of what already is?
A- As there is no one to choose.question of choosing don't arise.

Regards🙏


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