So good!
https://youtu.be/9m07xVEpvIA
Of course, no "god" is found in Direct Experience. It's even more beautiful mystery than that!
More pointers can be given to clarify things or "final" questions can show whether there's anything more to look at.
1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.
3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.
4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?
5) Describe decision & give examples from experience.
Describe intention & give examples from experience.
Describe free will & give examples from experience.
Describe choice & give examples from experience.
Describe control & give examples from experience.
What makes things happen? How does it work?
What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.
6) Anything to add?
Much love,
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Dearest Stacy,
I love Robert Gass, thank you for that link.
As there are several questions asking for detailed descriptions I may need another day or two to answer completely. I will get to them sooner if possible.
Endless Blessings from the Divine Mystery,
Raven 🤗💖
I love Robert Gass, thank you for that link.
As there are several questions asking for detailed descriptions I may need another day or two to answer completely. I will get to them sooner if possible.
Endless Blessings from the Divine Mystery,
Raven 🤗💖
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Sounds good. I'll be right here.
Much love,
Much love,
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Good morning,
Just checking in to see if you have any answers or questions.
Loving,
Just checking in to see if you have any answers or questions.
Loving,
~ Stacy
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Dear Stacy,
Had unexpected guests. So sorry to go MIA.
I Have sat with the questions a bit and from where I am now there is so much space and silence they seem almost meaningless. I'm guessing you may know what I'm experiencing here. The weather has been like spring here and finding this body just wanting to be in the sun watching and listening to the birds. Time isn't making sense much at the moment...lol.
It's fascinating that an endless seeking which has ruled me since childhood has seemed to completely drop away.
I will answer questions later today.
So grateful for your support and willingness here,
Lovingly, Raven
Had unexpected guests. So sorry to go MIA.
I Have sat with the questions a bit and from where I am now there is so much space and silence they seem almost meaningless. I'm guessing you may know what I'm experiencing here. The weather has been like spring here and finding this body just wanting to be in the sun watching and listening to the birds. Time isn't making sense much at the moment...lol.
It's fascinating that an endless seeking which has ruled me since childhood has seemed to completely drop away.
I will answer questions later today.
So grateful for your support and willingness here,
Lovingly, Raven
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Understood. Yes that experience is familiar.
Answering the questions is a nice completion to make sure we haven't missed anything.
Much love,
Answering the questions is a nice completion to make sure we haven't missed anything.
Much love,
~ Stacy
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Dear Stacy,
Again I apologize for the delay in getting to these six questions. As I said in earlier post today I am enjoying just BEing so very much. It's astounding how once seen that there truly is No Self how liberating this truly is.
If any confusion at all it may be about societal judgements on choice, intention and responsibility. Example: If this body is involved in causing an accident and harms another body then there would be a judgement of responsibility and this Body/BEing would be made to make reparations. I sense that there is an ongoing Integration of what this seeing is and a time of old beliefs, ideas and concepts that will continue to fall away.
Thank you again Stacy for your willingness to be a guide.
Lovingly, Raven
Again I apologize for the delay in getting to these six questions. As I said in earlier post today I am enjoying just BEing so very much. It's astounding how once seen that there truly is No Self how liberating this truly is.
Not that can be found here. Not ever as far as can be seen here.1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
As far as I can see this illusion begins from birth. I have heard many say that it doesn't begin till around age 3 or so yet my own childhood and that of me with my daughter is the experience of being told who and what one is from the very beginning. "Look, it's a boy (or girl)", "oh, she is so pretty", "his name is _____", etc. A constant barage of labeling and being told what to believe, think and feel, etc.2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.
As I had shared I actually finally "saw" this gateless gate before we began our dialog. Feels spacious, freeing and has had me laughing off and on for a couple of weeks now because even though I had heard numerous times how insanely simple this realization is as an avid seeker of over 50 years I just couldn't believe it until I now do! Besides everything seeming more present and vivid perhaps the biggest difference is how incredibly wonderful it feels to have stopped seeking. I spent every possible moment reading spiritual texts, attending workshops, doing "inner" work, watching Videos, Seeking, seeking, seeking and now I haven't had any urge whatsoever to pick up any of my once sacred books, no need for pointers or listening to speakers, no videos. Just BEing and allowing life to happen moment to moment.3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.
I think I have shared this. I was reading the Gateless Gate and there was a sharing about how looking for the self is same as looking for a Unicorn. I had experienced many little awakenings and had an intellectual understanding of No Self but this was the truth moment. I suddenly just saw so clearly and was catapulted into the most exquisite freedom and laughed for hours (at least it felt like hours...time suddenly became meaningless too).4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?
In true recognition of No I/Me/Self there is nothing to describe as it is now seen here that none of this can exist because there is No Self and thus No One to do anything, to make anything happen, to choose, be responsible for, etc.5) Describe decision & give examples from experience.
Describe intention & give examples from experience.
Describe free will & give examples from experience.
Describe choice & give examples from experience.
Describe control & give examples from experience.
What makes things happen? How does it work?
What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.
If any confusion at all it may be about societal judgements on choice, intention and responsibility. Example: If this body is involved in causing an accident and harms another body then there would be a judgement of responsibility and this Body/BEing would be made to make reparations. I sense that there is an ongoing Integration of what this seeing is and a time of old beliefs, ideas and concepts that will continue to fall away.
I have heard there are groups that are available to connect with once is seen as being thru the Gateless Gate to aid in ongoing integration, etc. I would appreciate any information on this you may have.6) Anything to add
Thank you again Stacy for your willingness to be a guide.
Lovingly, Raven
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Beautiful Raven. Your answers will be shared with other guides to see if anything was missed.
This is just a beginning. Now Life aligns with truth of what you've seen.
As far as societal "responsibilities," it will be like everything else. doing arises & things get done.
Loving,
This is just a beginning. Now Life aligns with truth of what you've seen.
As far as societal "responsibilities," it will be like everything else. doing arises & things get done.
Loving,
~ Stacy
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
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Hi Raven!
Your seeing is confirmed. Welcome!
Please check the Private Messages top right for additional information You can connect with me on Facebook, if you like. It is Stacy Ann Clark.
Loving,
Your seeing is confirmed. Welcome!
Please check the Private Messages top right for additional information You can connect with me on Facebook, if you like. It is Stacy Ann Clark.
Loving,
~ Stacy
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
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Dear Stacy, Am appreciating all your time and care here. Think I found you on Facebook. I generally don't spend much time there but am going to look into the groups associated with L.U.
Am hoping to connect as friends on Facebook and perhaps we will be in touch via messenger or in the groups.
Respect and love,
Raven
Am hoping to connect as friends on Facebook and perhaps we will be in touch via messenger or in the groups.
Respect and love,
Raven
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You are SO welcome.
Yes. Stacy Ann Clark in Colorado.
Much love,
Yes. Stacy Ann Clark in Colorado.
Much love,
~ Stacy
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