Stop Resisting

[Nuss]

Hello Jon,

I believe this is the final question that was left to be answered. Please let me know if there is more you would like to be written on.

Side note-it is interesting how old thought patterns (perhaps ones that tend to occur during certain times of the year) have recurred and are seen differently now, seen as they are for what they are. It feels like a re-framing/deconstructing of those stories is happening.

b) What are you responsible for? Give examples from your own recent experiences to how this works.

Responsibilities feel similar to past experiences or recurring stories in thought form. Responsibilities are not tangible. They are like extra stories added onto actions which are carried out. When thinking of responsibilities, images of objects which have been given extra meaning come to mind. The concept of responsibilities creates an illusion of someone to do/carry out those responsibilities. Those stories are clung onto as important to that perceived separate self and are held as an identity. "I am one who has this responsibility," I am one who carries out this duty," etc.

A small tangent/analogy:
For example, the middle finger-I was just having a conversation about this with my students. The finger itself resting is not offensive to others, but when it is held up by itself, it is considered disrespectful. Meaning has been applied to a piece of the body when it is presented in a certain way. Repeated uses, stories, and past experiences amongst an entire culture of people has created a consistent thought-story in peoples' minds about that lone finger. Actions themselves are what they are. They are simply carried out. The concept of responsibilities is a story which is attached to that action and reinforces the illusion of self.

Following that, "I" am not responsible for anything, because there is no I to be responsible for anything. "My responsibilities" are nothing more than thought stories attached to actions which are regularly carried out by this body-mind.

Thank you for the questions, Jon. I look forward to your thoughts on my responses.

Talk to you soon,
Nuss

[JonathanR]

Hi Nuss,

Thank you for your very comprehensive replies.

I will reread your answers before asking questions but there's one immediate question that I have for you based on what you have said about "responsibility"...

. "My responsibilities" are nothing more than thought stories attached to actions which are regularly carried out by this body-mind.

You have said that "responsibility" is thought-stories and yes, that does seem to be true (and we must use words to talk about these things), but is there a "this body mind" that "carries out actions"?

Is there a separate entity "body-mind" that "does" "actions" ?



Jon

[Nuss]

Hello Jon,

You have said that "responsibility" is thought-stories and yes, that does seem to be true (and we must use words to talk about these things), but is there a "this body mind" that "carries out actions"?
Is there a separate entity "body-mind" that "does" "actions" ?

No. Those actions happen on their own, following intentions which also happen on their own. There is no "one" or "body-mind" to "do" those actions.

Thank you,
Nuss

[JonathanR]

Thanks for your clarification Nuss,


This is lovely:

. " There is a newfound clarity of the difference between simply hearing and "hearing," which is actually analysis about what was heard, which blocks true hearing from happening in that moment. Once again, the initial expectation that these thoughts would "disappear" has been shattered, and replaced with the simple clarity of seeing things for what they are."

. Larger thoughts, or as I referred to as "blinders," also occur, and would be more like large pieces of snow/ice which may slide down from the roof of the car.

In this case, what is the car?

. However, decisions are not made by no-selves, they arise and pass completely on their own, as they are.

I love that!

. Side note-it is interesting how old thought patterns (perhaps ones that tend to occur during certain times of the year) have recurred and are seen differently now, seen as they are for what they are. It feels like a re-framing/deconstructing of those stories is happening.

That is a process that might continue. In many ways this is not an "end" of inquiry. You mentioned inquisitiveness somewhere and you may find that this "seeing" goes on being interesting so that various old habits or assumptions are noticed.

I would like to invite other guides to read your thread.now. sometimes they have questions to ask. Sometimes not.. They may take a couple of days to respond.

Best wishes

Love

Jon

[JonathanR]

Hi Nuss,

Well, the other guides did take a look and do not have further questions for you.

I will send a message via PM on this website. You may also find that your thread disappears from the Gate and reappears in the Archive section. And your name is likely to change colour.

As I say I will message later.


Love

Jon

[Nuss]

Jon,

I believe this means this will be my final message on this thread?

In this case, what is the car?

After another read, it is apparent that this analogy does imply a "watcher" on the inside of the windshield. Initially one would perceive that the car is "the mind," or wherever "happen." However, the reality is that there was never a car in the first place. There was no windshield on which the drops and snow landed and passed.

Thank you for everything, Jon!! Will connect on PM soon.

With deep gratitude,
Nuss