Requesting a Guide Please

[Buminjah]

LU is focused guiding for seeing there is no real, inherent 'self' - what do you understand by this?
That there is nothing fixed in my experience. That everything is empty of a self. That what I perceive to be a self is a magic trick.

What are you looking for at LU?
I know there is no self, I know all experience is empty and yet there is a bit of me that is still holding on, some spiritual bypassing going on. I am wanting to completely surrender and let go. I am wanting a guide

What do you expect from a guided conversation?
I expect to see through all my spiritual bypassing and not just know on an intellectual level that there is no self, that on a visceral level on every knowing level can see there is absolutely nothing inherent in the slef.

What is your experience in terms of spiritual practices, seeking and inquiry?
mindfulness, compassionate inquiry, buddhism

On a scale from 1 to 10, how willing are you to question any currently held beliefs about 'self? 11

[Samadhi01]

Hello Buminjah,

I would like to help you on this process of inquiry if thats OK with you.

Let us start with this:

I know there is no self

How do you know there is no self? Can you give examples of this?

some spiritual bypassing going on. I am wanting to completely surrender and let go

Can you explain what bypassing is going on?

I expect to see through all my spiritual bypassing

What do you expect to find after you go trough the spiritual bypassing?

on a visceral level on every knowing level can see there is absolutely nothing inherent in the slef.

How many levels do you experience?

Please use the quotations function to reply,

Kind regards :)
Samadhi

[Buminjah]

how do you know there is no self? Can you give examples of this?

There is nothing inside me - it is empty. All there is - is energy flowing through this sack of skin that is called the body.

Can you explain what bypassing is going on?

When this a flow of energy passed through the gate 7 or 8 years ago - there was freedom from attachments - freedom from distractions - there was just disinterest - and the attachments and distractions have come back.

What do you expect to find after you go through the spiritual bypassing?

There is a hope in there that there will be freedom - freedom from the prison of the mind.

How many levels do you experience?

None it was a figure of speech

[Samadhi01]

Hi Buminjah!

I sent you a a private message also.

There is nothing inside me - it is empty. All there is - is energy flowing through this sack of skin that is called the body.

How do you know its a energy? Is there a way of knowing that energy?

When this a flow of energy passed through the gate 7 or 8 years ago - there was freedom from attachments - freedom from distractions - there was just disinterest - and the attachments and distractions have come back.

So this flow of energy is back where it was before crossing the gate?
Interests and attachments came back, who is it that wants to get rid of these?

There is a hope in there that there will be freedom - freedom from the prison of the mind.

Is freedom something apart that one can obtain?
What is freedom?
Again, who is it that wants to be rid of the prison of mind?

Remember to answer each question from your actual experience, let us not go into mind speculation or intelectual reasonings.

Thank you!
S

PS. Please be patient with my spelling or grammar, english is not my first language.

[Buminjah]

How do you know its a energy? Is there a way of knowing that energy?

Today I was aware of sensation in the neck and sensation behind my eyes, and heat rising in the body - that is what was being named as energy. I can't touch it. It's not solid - something flowing in the body.

So this flow of energy is back where it was before crossing the gate?
Interests and attachments came back, who is it that wants to get rid of these

There is a definite self that wants to get rid of the attachments - there is something that is selfing for sure.

Is freedom something apart that one can obtain?
What is freedom?
Again, who is it that wants to be rid of the prison of mind?

Freedom - a no self - no selfing - nothing to defend - nothing to react to -
There is of course a self that want's to be rid of the prison of mind - i see that clearly - and want to let go of the self - so who is it that wants to let go of the self? I don't know

PS: I have not seen mail from you - and can you tell me what is the expectation - is this a daily dialogue - it would be great to know. is there a way that I don't have to scroll down through a long list of people.

[Buminjah]

I have now worked out how not to scroll down.

Samadhi can you tell me what is the expectation please.
Are we in dialogue daily? every other day? weekly?
It would be good to know - as I did think it was a daily communication.
If this is not possible then just let me know and happy to work with your schedule - thank you

[Samadhi01]

Samadhi can you tell me what is the expectation please.
Are we in dialogue daily? every other day? weekly?
It would be good to know - as I did think it was a daily communication.
If this is not possible then just let me know and happy to work with your schedule - thank you

It appears you didnt get the private message I sent you (see you profile/account), after you emailed me. Heres the message:

1. Is there away I don't have to scroll down looking for your response?

Yes, on the initial page of the gate, where you see your initial post, to the far right, you see the name of the last person to reply to the message, then a little box to the right, which takes you yo the last post.

2. How often will you be in contact with me?

Ill try as work permits (depends also on the size of your response I have to review), but Ill say 2 times per week hopefully.

3. Is it daily - every other day or weekly - be great to know thank you

lets say 2 per week hopefully.

Nice to meet you, thank you!
S

[Samadhi01]

Hi B, heres some responses, please answer the blue questions/comments:

Today I was aware of sensation in the neck and sensation behind my eyes, and heat rising in the body - that is what was being named as energy. I can't touch it. It's not solid - something flowing in the body.

So this energy seems to be something (a sensation) that is known, are you that energy (sensation) that is known? Or are you aware of that energy (sensation)?

There is a definite self that wants to get rid of the attachments - there is something that is selfing for sure.

This is good, that 'you' are aware of this 'selfing'. But are you that selfing? Is that selfing always here? Does it come and go?

There is of course a self that want's to be rid of the prison of mind - i see that clearly - and want to let go of the self

Think about this: wanting to let go of the self, can that be the self too? The thieve playing to be the police?

so who is it that wants to let go of the self? I don't know

Is it always here? or is it something that comes and goes?

PS: I have not seen mail from you - and can you tell me what is the expectation - is this a daily dialogue - it would be great to know. is there a way that I don't have to scroll down through a long list of people.

I answered this in previous message. Sorry for the confusion, I thought you got the private message I sent you. Ill try to respond here 2 times per week at least, time permitting Ill do more. And this is something also you can look into (this inquiry we do here is about looking): who is that that wants to do this inquire daily or is urgent to have responses? Could it be the thieve playing the part of the police?

Let me know if you dont understand something, english is not my first language.

Have a great day!
S

[Buminjah]

are you that energy (sensation) that is known? Or are you aware of that energy (sensation)?

This body is energy just unfolding flow there no awarer of the energy.

But are you that selfing? Is that selfing always here? Does it come and go?

I honestly don't know right now - in this experience right now there is just unfolding of the fingers on the keypad there is no selfer present - and sometimes the awarer kicks in and selfing comes and goes.

Think about this: wanting to let go of the self, can that be the self too? The thieve playing to be the police?

Yes there is nothing to let go of. I am thinking about your aphorism the thief playing to the police. Interesting concept. Not sure what this is pointing to - maybe it doesn't matter.
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who is that that wants to do this inquire daily or is urgent to have responses? Could it be the thieve playing the part of the police?

That asked if you respond daily, every other day or weekly. Ah this aphorism is slightly different - the riddle - could it be the thief playing the part of the police. The question seems to put that in the head - the thief and the police is the same they are not dualistic.

[Buminjah]

are you that energy (sensation) that is known? Or are you aware of that energy (sensation)?

This body is energy just unfolding flow there no awarer of the energy.

But are you that selfing? Is that selfing always here? Does it come and go?

I honestly don't know right now - in this experience right now there is just unfolding of the fingers on the keypad there is no selfer present - and sometimes the awarer kicks in and selfing comes and goes.

Think about this: wanting to let go of the self, can that be the self too? The thieve playing to be the police?

Yes there is nothing to let go of. I am thinking about your aphorism the thief playing to the police. Interesting concept. Not sure what this is pointing to - maybe it doesn't matter.
:

who is that that wants to do this inquire daily or is urgent to have responses? Could it be the thieve playing the part of the police?

That asked if you respond daily, every other day or weekly.And was happy to work with your schedule. That never said it was urgent. Ah this aphorism is slightly different - the riddle - could it be the thief playing the part of the police. The question seems to put that in the head - the thief and the police is the same they are not dualistic.

Can you explain the police/thief analogy - as it is not clear what you are pointing to

[Samadhi01]

Hi B

This body is energy just unfolding flow there no awarer of the energy.

How do you know its a energy?

I honestly don't know right now - in this experience right now there is just....

When you say I dont know, is that a tought?

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Can you explain the police/thief analogy - as it is not clear what you are pointing to

This is a analogy to explain what happens during the spiritual quest for liberation. The thieve being the Illusory self, in this case, thought. A thought pops up that something is wrong, so it undergoes a 'spiritual quest', becomes a spiritual seeker, and thought now thinks himself something different (the policeman, that knows liberation because he gathers all this knowledge about liberation), but its the same process. Thought. Thought cant get out of thought. Thought wants liberation from the prison of mind, at the same time, being itself thought lol.... can you see this?

Let me know if this makes sense. We will continue exploring this illusory self.

Regards

S

[Buminjah]

How do you know its a energy?

Thought has labelled it energy. So I don't know. Thought labelled sensations in the body energy. How do I know it is sensations - thought again labelling a process in the body.

When you say I dont know, is that a tought?

Now that you ask rignt now I could say it was a thought. And yet the thought remembers yesterday that I had nothing to say - that there really was no need for an answer - and thought kicked in and said I don't know.

This is a analogy to explain what happens during the spiritual quest for liberation. The thieve being the Illusory self, in this case, thought. A thought pops up that something is wrong, so it undergoes a 'spiritual quest', becomes a spiritual seeker, and thought now thinks himself something different (the policeman, that knows liberation because he gathers all this knowledge about liberation), but its the same process. Thought. Thought cant get out of thought. Thought wants liberation from the prison of mind, at the same time, being itself thought lol.... can you see this?

Yes I could see that from the analogy the thief and the policeman were seen as one - so thank you for saying that the thief represents the illusory self - yes I see that the thoughts is a magic trick. And that thought want's freedom from the prison of the mind - which is why the I has returned - a double entendre their - as I has returned and the I is back at the gates of liberation unleashed

[Samadhi01]

Hi Buminjah!

So lets continue here, have you seen how your initial response on the initial questionnaire what you knew there was no self, then that changed to all you see is a energy inside you, then that energy has been labeled as thought?

Lets go trough the main process we do here called looking. We dont go into elaborate investigations or philosophy's, we LOOK at RAW direct experience, or actual experience (AE), in order to find out that there's no separate self or 'I'. Because it’s the act of actually LOOKING and not finding an “I” that brings about the realization of there being no separate self.

But this looking must come from your experience and understanding, dont go into your past knowledge or thinking, respond directly to your actual direct experience.

Actual or direct experience: Seeing (colors), hearing (sounds), tasting, smelling, feeling (sensations, emotions), thinking (thought).

I want you to label your daily activities.

So for example:

Seeing a car = seeing (colors)
Hearing the car = hearing (sounds)
Tasting coffee = taste
Smelling the coffee = smell
Feeling the cup of coffee in your hand = feeling (sensations)
Thinking about drinking the coffee = thinking (thought)

Break down activities during a few days (or as you feel comfortable) and report back how you go.

Take care :)

S

[Buminjah]

waking, defecating, peeing, meditating, walking, talking, drinking, eating, walking, listening, talking, seeing, hearing, sitting, zooming,

[Samadhi01]

Hello Buminjah

You didnt understand what I asked you to do.

For example you said eating. This is comprised of colors, sounds, sensations, tastes, thoughts, smells, feelings. I wanted you to break down a activity like this. See my previous post.

Please try again.

Thank you.