Hello

[simondroger]

LU is focused guiding for seeing there is no real, inherent 'self' - what do you understand by this?
By that I understand that there is merely what's happening: infinite, transient sensations, timelessly happening, some of which seem to make up the experience of being a seperate agent in an outside world, but that being merely a matrix of interdependant stories and thoughts and memories.

What are you looking for at LU?
Not sure, I'm mainly curious as to how this is done, and here there is the experience of the center not being completely dissolved *yet*, so maybe pointings towards something so far overlooked.

What do you expect from a guided conversation?
Not sure, I'm mainly curious as to how this is done, and here there is the experience of the center not being completely dissolved *yet*, so maybe pointings towards something so far overlooked.

What is your experience in terms of spiritual practices, seeking and inquiry?
meditation
self inquiry
contemplation
deconstruction
psychedelics

On a scale from 1 to 10, how willing are you to question any currently held beliefs about 'self? 10

[Hawthorne]

Hello Simon,
I would like to help you with this.
My name is Albert. I am coming to you (almost) live out of the Canadian prairies. To best assist you, I will ask that we follow these following guidelines:

1. Please answer all the questions I ask.

2. Please try to answer within 2 or 3 days at most. If this becomes difficult, please let me know. This is not to place pressure, simply to keep things moving and focussed.

3. If I don't hear from you for a week I will engage with another applicant, as there are currently not enough guides to assist everyone.

4. Be honest.

With these formalities out of the way, I am very pleased to introduce myself and to enter this relationship with you. I'd like to emphasise that I am a fellow student and that guiding is not 'teaching' (if it were, you would be in real trouble :) )

I will encourage you to utilize what allowed me to recognize no self in this forum: Direct Experience (DE).
Is Simon is how you would like to be addressed? What part of the world are you in?

What do you expect from a guided conversation?

Not sure, I'm mainly curious as to how this is done, and here there is the experience of the center not being completely dissolved *yet*, so maybe pointings towards something so far overlooked.

In the above, you refer to a centre that is undissolved . What is your direct experience of the centre? I ask that you describe this without using conceptual language. As far as you are able, simply describe your literal sensory experience.
That is to say, if the centre is experienced as tactile , you might describe it as intense/mild, pleasant/unpleasant, warm/cold, moving/static, etc.
If it were a visual experience, you might describe the colour, shape, and so on.


With curiosity and warmth,
Albert

[simondroger]

Hello Simon,
I would like to help you with this.
My name is Albert. I am coming to you (almost) live out of the Canadian prairies. To best assist you, I will ask that we follow these following guidelines:

Hey Albert,

seems I totally missed this. Only checked in and saw the reply now. Are you still available?

Simon

[Hawthorne]

No problem Simon! Great timing actually , I was signing in to approach someone else.
I'm excited to get started!

Please begin with the questions in my opening post and we can go from there.

Best,
Albert

[simondroger]

Is Simon is how you would like to be addressed? What part of the world are you in?

Simon is fine and I'm in Germany at the moment :)

In the above, you refer to a centre that is undissolved . What is your direct experience of the centre? I ask that you describe this without using conceptual language. As far as you are able, simply describe your literal sensory experience.
That is to say, if the centre is experienced as tactile , you might describe it as intense/mild, pleasant/unpleasant, warm/cold, moving/static, etc.
If it were a visual experience, you might describe the colour, shape, and so on.

When the body moves around, it feels like the center locust of experience moves around with it. Like now, with the body sitting in this room, it feels like the room is around "me", a center in the body.

[Hawthorne]

Great , Simon!

Ok, please bear with me here. This process seems really basic at times, because it is!

I hear that you are experiencing a centre of experience that moves with the body. When the body is sitting in the room, it seems the room is all around "you".

I'd like to explore and challenge this!

Please try this exercise.

When sitting in a chair, notice where the sensation of centre resides. Try to find the centre of the centre, by directly noticing sensations. Sensations are what can be detected by the senses, as opposed to what is imagined or desired 'secondarily'.
Please describe what you find.

Consider this :

Is there a difference between the sensation of the centre and the observer of the centre?

Is there really a centre of the centre that can be experienced directly?

Thank you for looking.

Here is a locust of experience that I found:

[Hawthorne]

Hi Simon just checking in to see if you're still around. If you're busy just let me know when I can expect to hear from you! Thanks.
Best,
Albert