Freedom

[Sush]

Hi Bananafish,

Again, right now, please point with your finger at where you feel "self" is.
Just tell the exact place your finger tends to move.

My heart

Regards
Sush

[Bananafish]

Hello again. :)


What exactly is the "sense" that is there? Do you see, feel, smell, hear or taste
it? Could you observe it and describe how it is felt? Also, please notice the
emotions and thoughts that come when you observe it.


You can use analogies or images if that's appropriate to describe it.
Please feel free to tell about it in any way. You can even talk to or put your hand
on that sense if that helps seeing it clearer.

[Sush]

Hi Bananafish,

Again, right now, please point with your finger at where you feel "self" is.
Just tell the exact place your finger tends to move.

My heart.

Regards
Sush

[Sush]

Hi Bananfish,

What exactly is the "sense" that is there? Do you see, feel, smell, hear or taste
it? Could you observe it and describe how it is felt? Also, please notice the
emotions and thoughts that come when you observe it.

Whenever a sense of me is there I feel kind of blockage in the chest area, breathing becomes harder. I am taken over by my thoughts. Me feels so real, and all the thoughts starts pouring in, how I am wasting my time looking for no self. Instead, I could use my time more productively learning something which will help my career. There is also fear of not seeing, "no self".

Thanks,
Sush

[Bananafish]

Hi Sush. :) Is that blockage something different from
the sense of "you"?


Also, please tell me what this "I" in the sentence
"I am wasting my time looking for no self" refers to; is that an image?
Sensation? Thought? Or else?


Best wishes,


Bananafish

[Sush]

Hi Bananafish :-),

Is that blockage something different from
the sense of "you"?

When there is thought about me, I can sense the blockage.
So yes, they are different.

Also, please tell me what this "I" in the sentence
"I am wasting my time looking for no self" refers to; is that an image?
Sensation? Thought? Or else?

The “I” is a thought.

Regards
Sush

[Bananafish]

Hi. :)


Is the sense of "I" JUST a thought?
Or is there any other element that makes you feel there is
a separate self?


You know the "I" is a thought. What still makes you feel that there is
"you"?


Warm wishes,


Bananafish

[Sush]

Hi Bananafish,

Is the sense of "I" JUST a thought?

Yes, it is just a thought.

You know the "I" is a thought. What still makes you feel that there is
"you"?

I am not sure what is still making me believe that there is me, most of the time there is awareness and thought is seen for what it is. But when I am having conversation with people the sense of me feels very real. It feels like the world is out there and sense of me here.

Thanks
Sush

[Bananafish]

Hi Sush. :)


Is there any physical component that makes you actually
feel that there is a self?

The next time you have a conversation with people,
please observe if there is any kind of bodily sensation (or anything else) that
makes you feel like "you" as an individual exists.


What would it be?
Please report.


Also, let's do one experiment, according to your understanding,
sense of self is a thought. Now, please try grasping (literally, with your hand)
the thought "I." Were you successful in it?


Warmly,


Bananafish

[Sush]

Hi Bananafish :-),

Is there any physical component that makes you actually
feel that there is a self?

There are only sensations in my body. There is no self.

The next time you have a conversation with people,
please observe if there is any kind of bodily sensation (or anything else) that
makes you feel like "you" as an individual exists.


What would it be?
Please report.

I was having a talk with my neighbor and there were some disagreements and I could feel sensation in my chest area. But then I could step back and see that they were just sensations there was no me.

Also, let's do one experiment, according to your understanding,
sense of self is a thought. Now, please try grasping (literally, with your hand)
the thought "I." Were you successful in it?

No, I wasn't able to grasp the thought “I”.

Regards
Sush

[Bananafish]

Hi Sush. :)

Do you still feel that there is a separate and
concrete entity called self?


Please don’t think about it, but feel.
Please be 100% honest when you answer
this.


Please say in yes or no.
Just one word.


Warmly,

Bananafish

[Sush]

Hi Bananafish :-),

Please say in yes or no.
Just one word.

YES

Thank you so much for the guidance,
Regards
Sush

[Bananafish]

Thank you, Sush. :)


How is the self felt now?


Best wishes,

Bananafish

[Sush]

Hi Bananafish :-)

How is the self felt now?

It feels liberating to see no self. The thoughts come up but it doesn’t own me like before. I am more aware now, whenever there are thought I am able to step back and see it has just labelling and not actual experience. There is more mindfulness in the activities now. Even during conversations with people when they are fearful or anxious about something I am able to just listen without being triggered like before.

Thanks,
Regards
Sush

[Bananafish]

Hi Sush. :)

I thought you said you still feel there is a separate and
concrete entity called self?


Are you crystal clear that the illusion is seen through?


Can you say a big fat YES to the above question?

In that case, do you have anything you want to explore further with me?


Warmly,

Bananafish