Clarity

[Seamist]

You're sounding pretty clear to me. Thinking happens, but we over-value it, of course. And believe it.
More from me later, I'm out and about now xx

[Seamist]

Hi again
This one next:
Find a comfortable place to sit or lie.
Take in a few deep breaths to settle the dust and then relax for a bit.

Spend only 30 to 60 seconds on each component of this exercise.
Bring your awareness to your entire body - sense it fully, head to toe.
Run your hands down over your torso. Feel the solidity of it.
Now bring your awareness to your feet. Again, feel them. Move them a bit.
Then bring your awareness to your hands. Open and close them.
Bring your awareness to your face - all of it. Touch it with your hand.
Now point your index finger to where "Becca" is located.
Touch the exact location of "Becca".

Answer these questions:

Were you able to find and feel "Becca" in a direct way like the other parts of your body?
Where is it?
What did you find? Something? Anything? Nothing?
What sensations did you feel in your body that identified "Becca” (If any).

Tell me what you experienced and found, by way of direct experience.

xx

[Plant31]

Thank you for your continued guidance Sioned.

This one took a bit longer than the suggested 30-60 seconds as it was really interesting and hard to find a sense of ‘Becca’. I looked really hard but it didn’t make any sense.

Answer these questions:
Were you able to find and feel "Becca" in a direct way like the other parts of your body? No, there was nothing that represented a ‘becca’
Where is it? I couldn’t find anything.
What did you find? Something? No. Nothing. All that was there was sensations of a whole body, head to toe and connection with the bed and the blankets but even these didn’t feel like objects of any kind. It was really just sensations, fizzing clusters some more dense than others. Some movement up and down as breathing happened. Thoughts happened, as I heard an inner voice ask ‘where is becca?’ This was recognised as thought.
What sensations did you feel in your body that identified "Becca”. Only awareness of sensations and thoughts. I couldn’t locate anywhere the sense of awareness it just is.

Tell me what you experienced and found, by way of direct experience.
There’s like a clear openness to experience. Spaciousness of sensing and noticing thoughts. It’s like thoughts are seen but not identified with as a sense of ‘me’. There’s just an awareness of ongoing experiencing in the moment. It feels like there is clarity of experience.

Thank you for your time and allowing me to continue with this exploration. It’s really fascinating. Thank you x



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[Seamist]

Brilliant! A joy to read
Thought points to the feet being ‘down there’, so presumably you are above your feet. Where are you?
Sit quietly, take in a few deep breaths and then close your eyes.
Locate where you feel yourself to be. Locate yourself vertically in the body, horizontally to the left or right, and depth, how far in. Feel how big you are, where you reside. Then point with a finger to ‘you’. Open your eyes, where is your finger pointing?

xx

[Plant31]

Where are you? No where and everywhere.
Open your eyes, where is your finger pointing? It’s not pointing anywhere as there is no where for it to point to. This idea doesn’t make sense anymore.

Thank you Sioned.
I’m happy to stop now. Thank you for all your support, time and guidance. Really appreciate it and the work you are doing with here. If you have any suggestions on where to go from here I would really appreciate that too.
Many thanks again. Love Becca x


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[Seamist]

All good.
It's fine for you to stop - do you want to do the final questions for the sake of completeness? Just let me know.

I get into trouble when I suggest next steps to people! But there is guidance on this site - and if you go through the confirmation process, you'll then be able to discuss what next further with other "post-gate" people. Up to you.
xxx

[Plant31]

Perfect. Thank you.

Do you want to do the final questions for the sake of completeness?
Yes, that would be great.

Thank you x x



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[Seamist]

Coming up!

[Seamist]

Here you go:

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was
there ever?
2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from
your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.
3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue?
Please report from the past few days.
4) What was the last bit that pushed you over; made you look?
5) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control. What makes things happen?
How does it work? What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.
6) Anything to add?
xx

[Plant31]

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was
there ever?
No, there is no separate self or ‘me’ anywhere to be found in any form. There never was.

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from
your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.
The illusionary self appeared to me most strongly as the narrative voice that is heard internally, commenting and labelling the experience of life. The thoughts inside our minds that create a story of a ‘me’ as a separate entity. The belief that I am a body, that ‘I think, I see, I hear’. All of these things happen as an experience that is recognised through awareness. The chatty mind is not ‘me’ this is now recognised as ‘thinking’. The thinking mind seems to take on a more solid form if given the focus. However when seen for what it is, thoughts flow freely.

3) How does it feel to see this? It feels ordinary like it’s always been like this but now with a different quality. A more open state. It feels refreshing. It’s so subtle it’s untrue. I feel more relaxed about this process. During the inquiry I was getting really frustrated about not ‘getting it’ but now I see that I was lost in thought and it was so simple and already there. It was like I knew the intellectual knowledge about what I ‘should’ be experiencing but I didn’t feel like I had seen it. Now it feels like I know what people mean now.

What is the difference from before you started this dialogue?
Previously, I had thought that awareness was a ‘thing’. Like to be ‘as awareness’ was almost another state. But now I realise that awareness just is. Its everywhere. It’s always there experiencing. There feels like an openness to this. There is a knowing that awareness is not separate and is not a thing it’s just what has always been here. It’s hard to explain and now I realise why it is known as the ‘indescribable’ but this has a different meaning to me now than before. I also thought we could control thoughts but there was a realisation whilst out jogging that we don’t control any thought or action. Sometimes we think we do but in truth they just arise. This is no one in charge controlling. This was seen.


Please report from the past few days.
4) What was the last bit that pushed you over; made you look? Realising that awareness isn’t a separate thing. Awareness is experiencing. That thinking is just thinking. It’s not ‘me’. It’s like another sensory experience arising in awareness such as hearing, feeling, sensing, seeing, tasting, smelling, thinking...

5) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control. What makes things happen? They just happen. There is no one in control. Decisions, intentions and choices arise as thoughts and life happens. There is no chooser or anyone in control to make things happen. They just happen.

How does it work? I don’t think we know. It just happens. What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience. I’m not responsible for anything. As we live life, things just happen. We respond to life. Things happen that cause a reaction and response. For example, I decided to get an extension on the kitchen and it all just happened so naturally and quickly without over thinking things. This is no questioning about making the wrong decision as things seem to happen at the right time without effort.

6) Anything to add? Thank you so much for your love and support. I’m glad we were able to carry on a bit longer as it seems like this was needed to truly see rather than knowing from an intellectual understanding i.e. thinking. It was the ‘idea’ of awareness that needed to be deconstructed for me.
Thank you so much Sioned.
Much love Becca x


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[Seamist]

Lovely to read, Becca. Thank you.
There processes now use that your answers get looking at by an experienced guide. They may come back with some further questions, or they may simply confirm.
It's been a pleasure, by the way!
Xx

[Seamist]

Typos!
The process now is that your answers get looked at by an experienced guide.

[Seamist]

That's you confirmed, Becca! I'm delighted!
You'll now get a private message here on LU advising you about what next, look out for it.
It's been a pleasure guiding you!
Much love
Sioned

[Plant31]

Thank you very much Sioned. Really appreciate your guidance. Much love and gratitude x x


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