Realization Unfolding

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Re: Realization Unfolding

Postby Aobi » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:11 am

What are you responsible for?
I am not responsible for anything. There isn't any responsibility at all. Since “I” never existed it couldn’t be or ever have been responsible for anything, it's just an illusion.

Thank you again for the guidance Adil!

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Re: Realization Unfolding

Postby adilerten » Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:51 pm

What are you responsible for?
I am not responsible for anything. There isn't any responsibility at all. Since “I” never existed it couldn’t be or ever have been responsible for anything, it's just an illusion.

Thank you again for the guidance Adil!
Brilliant seeing.. thank you..

Oh sorry i forgot to send you the questions.
We will need to answer again (you can copy paste) for our friends to see..
Events happen, deeds are done, but there is no individual doer thereof."
Buddha

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Re: Realization Unfolding

Postby adilerten » Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:52 pm

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? 
Was there ever? 

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. 
Describe it fully as you see it now. 

3) How does it feel to see this? 
What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days. 

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over; made you look? 

5) a) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control. What makes things happen? How does it work? Give examples from your own recent experiences to how things happen and how things work.

b) What are you responsible for? Give examples from your own recent experiences to how this works.

6) Anything to add?
Events happen, deeds are done, but there is no individual doer thereof."
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Re: Realization Unfolding

Postby Aobi » Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:47 am

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form?
Was there ever?
There never was a separate self to begin with.
2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience.
Describe it fully as you see it now.
The illusion of separate self starts with thought and the association of "Me" alongside these thoughts. When thought arises, most tend to associate who they think they are and everything they've been taught about themselves to these thoughts. At an early age were conditioned to think we are a certain person, you're given a name and attributes, you learn concepts and ways of interpreting information which causes an illusion of a "separate self" that lies in thought.
How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.
It feels calming to see this. Thought can be overwhelming at times, knowing that thought is simply mental noise and not reality is calming. This has become more and more noticeable in the past few days, for example while at work today we had a busy afternoon service, servers running around and orders flying in, essentially chaos. While I was getting order after order, surprisingly, I felt very neutral and alright. This was notable because I felt a sense of panic that comes with a rush, but I was able to let that thought come and go. Especially at work, its easy to get tied up in thought. When I took a step back and simply allowed everything to be as it was I felt alright.
4) What was the last bit that pushed you over; made you look?
Last week when I was looking at the question of the gap, specifically WHERE the gap was, I was confused and frustrated because I couldn’t find an answer. I was looking and getting more and more frustrated when all of a sudden it hit me, I was aware that all I was doing was looking for an answer in thought, not actually looking. It became clear that without this thought, there was no gap and there never was.
5) a) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control. What makes things happen? How does it work? Give examples from your own recent experiences to how things happen and how things work.
Decision, intention, free will, and things like this are all illusions. The “me” or “self” believes that it has control. It comes up with these constructs like free will to give itself the idea that it is somehow controlling what is going on, when in actuality all it is is just experience and nothing more. An example of this could be my heartbeat, I don’t choose or decide to make my heart pump blood, it just happens. Same with thought, for a long time I thought I had control over my thoughts and that I could silence them. Only after looking can I see how impossible it is to stop thoughts in their tracks. I can’t stop a thought before it happens, and I can’t predict a thought before it’s been thought, I can only experience what is happening now in this present moment, nothing more.
b) What are you responsible for? Give examples from your own recent experiences to how this works.
I am not responsible for anything. There isn't any responsibility at all. Since “I” never existed it couldn’t be or ever have been responsible for anything, it's just an illusion.


6) Anything to add?

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Re: Realization Unfolding

Postby adilerten » Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:44 am

Thank you for your answers Harrison,

There is one question from my guide friends,
Can you please make it more clear for us..
Thank you :)

"When I took a step back and simply allowed everything to be as it was I felt alright"
(qu 3}

Is there an 'I' that 'does' this? If not, could you find a different way to express what happened?
Events happen, deeds are done, but there is no individual doer thereof."
Buddha

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Re: Realization Unfolding

Postby Aobi » Sun Aug 04, 2019 3:40 am

is there an 'I' that 'does' this? If not, could you find a different way to express what happened?
There is no “I” that did this, let me rephrase,

It wasn’t something I did or did not do, but more like an awareness. The simple awareness and experiencing everything being as it is in this moment. Everything is happening as it already is, there’s no seperation, a before or after experience, past or future, there is only what is in this present moment. Not consumed by thoughts and stories, but simply present and aware. It’s not an attempt to be present, or not to be consumed by thought, it’s just awareness and experiencing experience as it unfolds.

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Re: Realization Unfolding

Postby adilerten » Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:00 am

Thank you Harrison
Also my guide friends confirmed that you have seen that separate self does not exist.
And it is crystal clear.
As i have mentioned before, it is not the end of the road, it is the start of a free fall so get ready :)
It was a pleasure to work with you. :)
and i can suggest you to join us in guiding after a while if you have time.
My friends will send you facebook invites for after care groups.

Sending much love.

Welcome Home :)
Events happen, deeds are done, but there is no individual doer thereof."
Buddha


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