Good morning Ado,
Is "knowing" (consciousness), separate from what is “known", or are they one and the same?
Can there be a 'knowing' without a 'known' or vice versa?
Without a self, and without thought telling me there is a self, knowing and known are one and the same. There is no separateness or dividing line between them.
Exactly! So does it matter what thought says? Thought will continue to appear suggesting that there is a separate self and that there is subject/object split and that life is happening TO someone/something. Just because thought appears suggesting this…does it make it so?
When you saw that Santa Claus was not real….did life change? Maybe some expectations subsided because you knew there was no Santa Claus who left presents under the tree. However, life went on. Christmas still comes and goes, Santa is still seen at Christmas time and gifts are still exchanged! Did thoughts about Christmas, Santa Claus etc disappear? No, they still appear. Is there a choice to whether or not they appear? No. Life continues on but is happening to no one. So why is the separate self any different to Santa?
Where does a thought (known) end and the knowing of it begin? Is there a dividing line between the known and the knowing of it?
Again without the idea or concept of a separation there is no beginning or end to thought (known) and the knowing of thought. They come from the same source or are the same source and there is no dividing line between them.
Yes. Thought, as thought describes itself, is story. Experience is not divided…it is whole and seamless. It is only thought that describes itself and gives itself meaning and a seeming life of its own. Thought isn't known because of its appearance or its content (which is further thought)...it is known because it is experience/THIS (I AM). A thought is not an object which is known by a subject. It is known because it is experience itself which thought has divided and ‘labelled itself’ as thought.
The label ‘thought’ is AE, but the thoughts about what a thought is, what it does, what it means, what it is occurring to etc are content of that label/thought! So the content of thought is simply further thought. Thought, in and of itself does not contain any experience, if it did you would be able to taste the word ‘sweet’.
Is there anything actually happening to smell, taste, sound, colour, thought and sensation, or are thoughts telling a story about something happening to smell, taste, sound etc ?
There is nothing happening to smell, taste, sound, colour, thought or sensation, they just are. It is only thought that tries to tell me that something is happening to them.
What 'me'? There is no dividing line between what is known and the knowing of it, where is this 'me' that thought is telling something is happening to?
There is no colour AND sensation AND smell AND taste AND sound AND thought. There is no AND. The AND points to division. As soon as experience/THIS has been labelled it becomes divided. It becomes divided into 6 main categories: - sound AND smell AND thought AND colour AND taste AND sensation. If you take away the AND it is soundsmellthoughtcolourtastesensation which denotes that there is no division. However, the ‘thinking mind’ still sees even that as separate words pointing to experience having 6 different forms.
So let’s replace soundsmellthoughtcolourtastesensation with just X.
X = experience/THIS exactly as it is.
So where does "awareness" end and "awared" begin? If they cannot be separated in any way (and they can't), then what sense does a "choice" even make?
When you put it like that it makes complete sense that decisions just appear and happen before the conscious mind is even aware of them being made so therefore there is no choice and it all is just happening in consciousness/knowing. Thought will try and tell me that ‘I’ made the choice or decision but in fact it was already happening in consciousness before thought hijacked it and claimed it as its own.
There is no “conscious mind”. Where exactly is this “conscious mind”. What is the AE of “conscious mind”?
You are still referring to yourself as a person…a person with a conscious mind that something is happening to. That there is some entity or thing that is determining what thoughts you have and when you will have them. That there are things happening in some mystical unknown place, out of your awareness and are then ‘sent to or given to’ you!
Can a thought happen without you knowing of the thought? Where do these thoughts hide until the ‘conscious mind’ receives them? Is there a parking bay somewhere where thoughts wait until some sort of signal is given them and then they make their way into something called the subconscious mind so that you can then think them?
You are aware of the letters on the screen now, right? Are awareness and letters separate? Could these letters exist without you knowing of them? Would knowing of the letters exist without the letters?
You are not looking Ado. The youtube clip…shows how this is happening to a person.
What is the AE of a person?
Science has no basis in AE. The clip was just to show you that there is no one making decisions. Thoughts labelled as decisions…just simply arise like any other thought, because they are just another thought. The label ‘decision’ is just a label that thought appoints to other thoughts. They have no qualitative distinctions. There is no hierarchy of thought. One thought is not any different or more meaningful than another. It is thought that seeming labels thoughts as ‘judgemental thought’, ‘belief’, ‘decisions’, ‘positive thought’, negative thought’ etc. Thoughts have no more meaning than &$^T*&#Y(@^%*!! You can’t find where a thought comes from for one simple reason it’s not a thing!
Kay
Nothing real can be threatened. Nothing unreal exists.
