Getting to the heart of things

[NMSeeker]

So the AE of a doughnut is thought, as a doughnut is not known. What is actually known is AE colour which thought points to and labels as a doughnut.
Is this clear?

Yes

Now, go open your front door like it is in this picture and have a look. Is the open door actually taking up ‘space’?

No. 'Space' would be a thought and not known by AE of senses, therefore, there's nothing to take up.

And is there ‘space’ between door and the wall behind the door?

Yes, from the standpoint of having a thought about 'space' and actually experiencing the thought. However, this space can not be experienced by actual experience of the senses because it is not seen, felt, tasted, or heard. From this standpoint there is not 'space' between the door and the wall.

And when you look at an animate object, what is actually there?

Actual experience of seeing movement and shape. Actual experience of hearing sounds.

How is it known that “seems” implies a judgement?
"Seems" has observation as part of it. Something has to be making the observation.

And what exactly is making that judgement?
An "I".

Where is this “I” exactly and what does it look like?

The "I" exists in thought. The "I" looks like whatever is contained in the thought as a visual description of the "I".

What does the word/thought “SEEM” point to?

"SEEM" points to appears, however, it is not actually something.

What is the AE of “SEEM/S”

Please clarify, I'm not sure what is being asked.

What exactly is it that experiences a thought?

Anything that experiences a thought would also be a thought.

Does thought have a voice? Does thought have sound? Does thought have an image? Does thought have a sensation? Does thought have a taste? Does thought have a smell?

No. Thought does not have a voice, sound, image, sensation, taste, or smell.

Exactly, so how is it ‘experienced’?

Thought is experienced by other thoughts.

Describe a thought. Tell me what it looks like, feels like, tastes like, sounds like, and smells likes. I would like for you to describe a thought just as you would if you were describing a person.

A thought has no look, feel, taste, sound, or smell. I can't describe a thought outside of a thought.

Lovely! So, if there is no “I” to be stuck in a loop, why would there be an “I” period?

There is no "I" that is known. For practical purposes there's a "Todd" thought that is writing this. Being aware that "I" is a thought is one thing, removing the "I" thought entirely would make it difficult to go about life.

Thanks,
Todd

[forgetmenot]

Hello Todd,

And is there ‘space’ between door and the wall behind the door?

Yes, from the standpoint of having a thought about 'space' and actually experiencing the thought. However, this space can not be experienced by actual experience of the senses because it is not seen, felt, tasted, or heard. From this standpoint there is not 'space' between the door and the wall.

What exactly is having a thought? Describe this thing/entity to me in precise details and where they are located. And what exactly is experiencing a thought?

Where does a thought end and the knowing of it begin? In other words, where is the dividing line between that appearance of a thought and the knowing of it?

The space, if you look carefully at the picture and at the door you opened, it is actually the appearance of colour. Have another look and let me know what you notice.

And when you look at an animate object, what is actually there?

Actual experience of seeing movement and shape. Actual experience of hearing sounds.

What exactly is it that is seeing movement and shapes? There are no shapes. Shapes are simply different patterns of colour.

And what is it exactly that is hearing sound? That points to two. A hearer and a sound.

Sit quietly, close the eyes, take in a couple of deep breaths to settle the dust and then listen to the sounds in the room where you are, or sounds from outside. Then when ready just choose one sound and pay attention to that one sound only.

1) In 'hearing' can anything be found, other than ‘what can be heard’ (AE of sound)?
2) Can what is doing the hearing be found? Or is there only ‘what can be heard’ (AE sound)?
3) Can an 'I', ‘ear’, ‘body’, ‘person’ be found? Or are these statements thoughts about an 'I', ‘ear’, ‘body’, ‘person’? And can they be found in ‘what can be heard’?

Look very carefully. Where does ‘hearing’ end and sound begin? Can a dividing line between ‘hearer’ and sound be found? Or is there just hearer/sound?

Can a 'hearer' ever be found in 'what is being heard' – AE sound?

If that is all, and no INHERENT HEARER is found . . . would anything that is suggested as the hearer be anything other than speculation / ideas / beliefs / thoughts etc?

How is it known that “seems” implies a judgement?
"Seems" has observation as part of it. Something has to be making the observation.

And what exactly is making that judgement?
An "I".

Where is this “I” exactly and what does it look like?

The "I" exists in thought. The "I" looks like whatever is contained in the thought as a visual description of the "I".

Which is what exactly? And is this visual description of an “I” then seen by thought, and it is a thought that makes judgements? So thoughts label themselves are aware of themselves and thoughts are aware of “I’s” although nothing else is?

What is the AE of “I”?

I would like you to go look in a mirror. Now tell me what is the actual experience?

What does the word/thought “SEEM” point to?

"SEEM" points to appears, however, it is not actually something.

You are not looking with actual experience. I don’t want a definition of what SEEMS is. I want to know what it points to in AE! SEEM is the AE of thought. So what does the word/thought SEEM point to, nothing except the AE of thought.

Actual experience is everything, except the content of thought, because thought, in and of itself does not contain any experience. The actual experience of thought isn't any different just because the content of the thought is different. It is only thought that says all thoughts are different due to their differing meaning/content.

"Yes, because SEEMS implies a judgement and something has to make that judgement. That something has to be an "I" is a thought. The ensuing thoughts of what that means is the content of thought and the content of thought is further thought!

What is the AE of “SEEM/S”

Please clarify, I'm not sure what is being asked.

This exploration is based on actual experience of sound, thought, smell, taste, sensation and colour.
What is the actual experience of SEEMS? Is it a smell, a taste, a sensation, a colour, a sound or a thought?

What exactly is it that experiences a thought?

Anything that experiences a thought would also be a thought.

How can a thought experience a thought? How does a thought go about deciding to think a thought? A thought is not a self aware entity! Does thought actually know anything about thought content (does thought know thought)? So what exactly is it that experiences a thought?

No. Thought does not have a voice, sound, image, sensation, taste, or smell.

Exactly, so how is it ‘experienced’?

Thought is experienced by other thoughts.

Okay…tell me then how does a thought experience a thought? How does a thought bring a thought into its awareness? That would mean that thoughts are aware! How does a thought know that it has appeared and that there are other thoughts?

Describe a thought. Tell me what it looks like, feels like, tastes like, sounds like, and smells likes. I would like for you to describe a thought just as you would if you were describing a person.

A thought has no look, feel, taste, sound, or smell. I can't describe a thought outside of a thought.

No, because thoughts are simply known.

Lovely! So, if there is no “I” to be stuck in a loop, why would there be an “I” period?

There is no "I" that is known. For practical purposes there's a "Todd" thought that is writing this. Being aware that "I" is a thought is one thing, removing the "I" thought entirely would make it difficult to go about life.

What exactly is going about life? There has never been a Todd who has been going about life as there have never been a separate person EVER. If you have not been able to find an "I" then what is it exactly that is controlling, doing, thinking or deciding?

You came to LU to see through the illusory self and yet through this whole exploration you keep pointing back to an "I" no matter how much I point for you to LOOK and see if you can find this "I". What is the obstacle here? Is it fear, resistance?

I suggest you go back to the beginning of your thread and re-read it all again. Redo all the exercises and really read your thread thoroughly to see if you can start to connect the dots. If not, then perhaps it might be better if I found you a different guide, as then, you are not resonating to the way I guide.

With love, Kay

[NMSeeker]

What exactly is having a thought? Describe this thing/entity to me in precise details and where they are located. And what exactly is experiencing a thought?

The thought is just there. There's no thing/entity. Experiencing the thought is the same as the thought itself.

Where does a thought end and the knowing of it begin? In other words, where is the dividing line between that appearance of a thought and the knowing of it?

There's no dividing line. Thoughts come one after another, in their entirety. Thoughts come as a whole, there's no beginning of a thought or end.

The space, if you look carefully at the picture and at the door you opened, it is actually the appearance of colour. Have another look and let me know what you notice.

There are different colors.

1) In 'hearing' can anything be found, other than ‘what can be heard’ (AE of sound)?

No, just the sound is heard.

2) Can what is doing the hearing be found? Or is there only ‘what can be heard’ (AE sound)?

No, just the sound is heard.

3) Can an 'I', ‘ear’, ‘body’, ‘person’ be found?

No. Those are all thoughts.

Or are these statements thoughts about an 'I', ‘ear’, ‘body’, ‘person’?

Yes.

And can they be found in ‘what can be heard’?

No, they can't.

Look very carefully. Where does ‘hearing’ end and sound begin? Can a dividing line between ‘hearer’ and sound be found? Or is there just hearer/sound?

Hearing and sound happen at the same time. There is no dividing line between hearer and sound. There is just hearer/sound.

Can a 'hearer' ever be found in 'what is being heard' – AE sound?

No.

If that is all, and no INHERENT HEARER is found . . . would anything that is suggested as the hearer be anything other than speculation / ideas / beliefs / thoughts etc?

True, hearer is just a thought.

Which is what exactly? And is this visual description of an “I” then seen by thought, and it is a thought that makes judgements? So thoughts label themselves are aware of themselves and thoughts are aware of “I’s” although nothing else is?

No. An "I" can not be found.

What is the AE of “I”?

There is no AE of "I".

I would like you to go look in a mirror. Now tell me what is the actual experience?

I see colors.

What is the actual experience of SEEMS? Is it a smell, a taste, a sensation, a colour, a sound or a thought?

The actual experience of SEEMS is a thought.

How can a thought experience a thought?

It doesn't.

How does a thought go about deciding to think a thought?

It doesn't.

A thought is not a self aware entity! Does thought actually know anything about thought content (does thought know thought)?

No

So what exactly is it that experiences a thought?

Thought and experiencing a thought are the same. There's no separate experiencer.

Okay…tell me then how does a thought experience a thought?

It doesn't.

How does a thought bring a thought into its awareness?

It doesn't.

That would mean that thoughts are aware! How does a thought know that it has appeared and that there are other thoughts?

It doesn't.

What exactly is going about life? There has never been a Todd who has been going about life as there have never been a separate person EVER.

No Todd can be found. There is just thoughts along with hearing, seeing, tasting, feeling.

If you have not been able to find an "I" then what is it exactly that is controlling, doing, thinking or deciding?

There's no deciding, no doing, no controlling or thinking. There are just thoughts along with hearing, seeing, tasting, feeling. There's alternating sounds, colors, tastes, sensations, and thoughts.

Thanks,
Todd

[forgetmenot]

Hi Todd,

I appreciate you re-reading your thread….you have done some great looking…thank you. I have responded to half of the previous post to keep them smaller. I will respond to the other half later.

What did you find/notice this time when you read it again?

What exactly is having a thought? Describe this thing/entity to me in precise details and where they are located. And what exactly is experiencing a thought?

The thought is just there. There's no thing/entity. Experiencing the thought is the same as the thought itself.

Yes, lovely! There is no experiencer of experience. The knowing as the experience as the experience itself are one and the same.

Where does a thought end and the knowing of it begin? In other words, where is the dividing line between that appearance of a thought and the knowing of it?

There's no dividing line. Thoughts come one after another, in their entirety. Thoughts come as a whole, there's no beginning of a thought or end.

Yes, there is no beginning or end to thought.
What I was asking is where does thought end and the knowing of it begin?

The space, if you look carefully at the picture and at the door you opened, it is actually the appearance of colour. Have another look and let me know what you notice.

There are different colors.

So it was clearly seen that what thought called ‘space between door and wall’ is only AE of colour?

Yes...there is only colour. Look carefully here, how is it known that there are many different colourS?

Exercise 1
Sit and look at the ‘body’. What is there but colour (we are only looking at colour for this exercise)? Can a dividing line between the colour labelled ‘body’ and the colour labelled ‘chair’ be found? Where is the dividing line between the colour labelled ‘chair’ and the colour labelled ‘floor/rug’? Can a dividing line between the colour labelled ‘floor/rug’ and the colour labelled ‘wall’ be found?

Can a dividing line be found between any of these “colourS” or are they just simply colour which thought then divides into many different colourS and labels them as pink, black, yellow, green etc?


Exercise 2
With eyes closed, there is the experience of 'blackness'. There may a bright light, a red glow, sparkly bits or cloudy flecks appearing and disappearing - It really doesn't matter about the specifics. We are just noticing ‘blackness’.

1) With eyes closed, can you confirm that what is experienced is 'blackness'?
2) Is there anything else in 'seeing' other than 'blackness'?
3) Can what is seeing the blackness be found?
4) Can a pair of eyes, an 'I' / 'me', a person be found that is ‘seeing’ the blackness?

Is there anything that is witnessing the colour? Or is there just 'blackness' to be found?
What do you find?

Look very carefully. Where does ‘seeing’ end and colour begin? Can a dividing line between ‘seeing’ and colour be found? Or is there just seeing/colour?

Can a 'see-er' ever be found in 'what is being seen' – AE colour?

If that is all, and no INHERENT SEE-ER found . . . would anything that is suggested as the see-er be anything other than a concept/idea/thought?

Okay….then open the eyes and look around.

Is there a difference between the ‘blackness’ when eyes are closed and ‘colour’ when eyes are open, or are they both simply the appearance of colour?

Is there anything that is witnessing colour?

With love, Kay

[forgetmenot]

Hello Todd, I haven't heard from you so I am checking in to see how you are travelling? Everything okay with you?

With love, Kay

[NMSeeker]

Kay,

Everything is fine. I haven't had time to sit down and answer the questions. I'll be able to make some time soon. I appreciate your guiding!

Thanks,
Todd

[forgetmenot]

Hey Todd....no probs...glad to hear all is AOK! :)

With love, Kay

[NMSeeker]

What did you find/notice this time when you read it again?

I just looked instead of adding a story to the experience.

What I was asking is where does thought end and the knowing of it begin?

The thought is known in it's entirety all at once. There's no start or end of a thought. It comes into knowing as a whole.

So it was clearly seen that what thought called ‘space between door and wall’ is only AE of colour?

Yes

Sit and look at the ‘body’. What is there but colour (we are only looking at colour for this exercise)? Can a dividing line between the colour labelled ‘body’ and the colour labelled ‘chair’ be found? Where is the dividing line between the colour labelled ‘chair’ and the colour labelled ‘floor/rug’? Can a dividing line between the colour labelled ‘floor/rug’ and the colour labelled ‘wall’ be found?

There's no dividing line, only a change in color.

Can a dividing line be found between any of these “colourS” or are they just simply colour which thought then divides into many different colourS and labels them as pink, black, yellow, green etc?

There's no dividing line. Yes, thought divides the colors and labels them.

1) With eyes closed, can you confirm that what is experienced is 'blackness'?
2) Is there anything else in 'seeing' other than 'blackness'?
3) Can what is seeing the blackness be found?
4) Can a pair of eyes, an 'I' / 'me', a person be found that is ‘seeing’ the blackness?

1) Yes
2) No
3) No
4) No

Is there anything that is witnessing the colour?

No

Or is there just 'blackness' to be found?

Yes

What do you find?

AE of seeing colour which thoughts labeled 'black'.

Look very carefully. Where does ‘seeing’ end and colour begin?

Seeing and the colour happen at the same time.

Can a dividing line between ‘seeing’ and colour be found?

No

Or is there just seeing/colour?

Yes

Can a 'see-er' ever be found in 'what is being seen' – AE colour?

No

If that is all, and no INHERENT SEE-ER found . . . would anything that is suggested as the see-er be anything other than a concept/idea/thought?

Correct, the see-er is just a concept/idea/thought.

Is there a difference between the ‘blackness’ when eyes are closed and ‘colour’ when eyes are open, or are they both simply the appearance of colour?

They are both the appearance of colour.

Is there anything that is witnessing colour?

No

Thanks,
Todd

[forgetmenot]

Hey Todd,

Lovely looking! Okay...moving onto the rest of the post I divided into two.

1) In 'hearing' can anything be found, other than ‘what can be heard’ (AE of sound)?

No, just the sound is heard.

Sound is heard or there is simply sound? What exactly is doing the hearing?

For this exercise you will need to sit yourself near a clock that has an audible second hand. If you don’t have a ticking clock, then here is a link to a clock on Youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L21br2DSCSg

Allow your eyes to close gently. Take in a couple of deep breaths to allow the dust to settle.

Listen to the sound. “Tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock”

Focus on the tick tock. Attune to the sound itself. IGNORE any explanatory thoughts about what must be creating the sound.

Try to find the clock.

1. Going just by the tick tock sound, do you find a clock present?
2. Is there any direct/actual experience of a clock in the sound?
3. Does the sound come self-labelled as originating from the clock?
4. Do you find a clock hidden in the sound?
5. Do you find a clock beyond the sound?
6. In your direct/actual experience of the sound, do you find any evidence that the sound is caused by a clock?

Allow your eyes to open.

Were you able to establish that in your direct/actual experience of the tick tock sound, that there was a clock?

Were you able to find a division between hearing and sound?
Were you able to establish where hearing ended and sound begin, or was there just pure experience labelled as sound?

For a sound to be ‘known’ then there must be a ‘knowing’ (experience) of sound! Can a dividing line be found between the ‘knowing’ (experience) of the sound and the sound (known) itself? Or is there only ‘knowingknown’?

What is the AE of “I”?

There is no AE of "I".

Yes, there is an AE of “I” and the AE is thought. Thought points to the label “I” and adds a story to the label which SEEMS to affirm that there is an “I” that is residing in a body, and living a life, separate to everything else. The whole story is the AE of thought.

The label “I” and thoughts about an “I” are known as AE of thought and not the AE of an “I”
The sensation labelled as “I” is known as AE of sensation and not AE of an “I”
The image/colour labelled “I” is known as AE of colour and not AE of an “I”
So, the label "I" is known as are the thoughts about an “I” are known, but is an actual “I” known?

I would like you to go look in a mirror. Now tell me what is the actual experience?

I see colors.

Yes, simply colour which thought then divides into many different colourS and further divides and labels as head, face, teeth, lips, nose, ears, hair, eyebrows, wrinkles and so on.

Here is an image to help point out the difference between actual experience and the stories thought tells about experience.

That's got to be Albert Einstein, right?



Notice that all that's actually present in the picture are some colours. That's all that's there, colour. Thought then labels these colours as hair, tongue, moustache, nose, eyes, eyebrows, mouth, ears, face and head and a story about this head being that of Albert Einsten.

The image of Einstein is just a story. There is no Einstein of any kind present. Just a story.

Now notice that thought is doing this with everything. In fact, without thought, there wouldn't even seem to be any things.

With love, Kay

[NMSeeker]

Sound is heard or there is simply sound?

There's just sound.

What exactly is doing the hearing?

Nothing.

1. Going just by the tick tock sound, do you find a clock present?

No

2. Is there any direct/actual experience of a clock in the sound?

No

3. Does the sound come self-labelled as originating from the clock?

No

4. Do you find a clock hidden in the sound?

No

5. Do you find a clock beyond the sound?

No

6. In your direct/actual experience of the sound, do you find any evidence that the sound is caused by a clock?

No

Were you able to establish that in your direct/actual experience of the tick tock sound, that there was a clock?

No. There is no clock.

Were you able to find a division between hearing and sound?

There is actual experience of the sound, there's no division.

Were you able to establish where hearing ended and sound begin, or was there just pure experience labelled as sound?

Pure experience labelled as sound.

For a sound to be ‘known’ then there must be a ‘knowing’ (experience) of sound! Can a dividing line be found between the ‘knowing’ (experience) of the sound and the sound (known) itself?

No dividing line can be found.

Or is there only ‘knowingknown’?

There's only knowing known.

So, the label "I" is known as are the thoughts about an “I” are known, but is an actual “I” known?

No. An actual "I" is not known.

Thanks,
Todd

[forgetmenot]

Hey Todd,

Nice looking! So we have had an indepth look at what actual experience is, thoughts, separation as well as other things.
Do you have any questions in relation to anything we have looked at so far?

So, let's look at the idea of control, choice and decisions.

1. Hold a hand in front of you; palm turned down.
2. Now turn the palm up. And down...and up and so on.

Watch like a hawk.

Don't go to thoughts, examine the actual experience. Do this as many times as you like, and each time inquire…

How is the movement controlled?
Does a thought control it?
Can a ‘controller’ of any description be located?
How is the decision made to turn the hand over? Track any decision point when a thought MADE THE DECISION to turn the hand over and the hand turns over immediately.
Can you find a separate individual or anything that is choosing when to turn the palm up or down?

With love, Kay

[NMSeeker]

Kay,

Do you have any questions in relation to anything we have looked at so far?

No

How is the movement controlled?

I can not determine a controller.

Does a thought control it?

No. The hand turns without a thought.

Can a ‘controller’ of any description be located?

No

How is the decision made to turn the hand over?

No decision can be found.

Track any decision point when a thought MADE THE DECISION to turn the hand over and the hand turns over immediately.

There is no decision point.

Can you find a separate individual or anything that is choosing when to turn the palm up or down?

No

Thanks,
Todd

[forgetmenot]

Hey Todd,

Can a ‘controller’ of any description be located?

No

Great! So for the next few days just notice if there is any controller in anything that is thought, done, said and felt.
Let me know what you find.

Does a thought control it?

No. The hand turns without a thought.

Lovely! So does a thought control sensation? Does a thought control thought? Does thought control/determine anything?

Let’s have a look at the idea of decision/choice.

The aim of the following exercise is to discover whether the function of choice can really be found or confirmed in actual experience. The idea of making ‘choices‘ is a very clear example of a function that we wrongly identify as the basis of our identity.

Here's what’s needed - A chair, a table and two different drinks. Any two drinks you like are okay for this: coffee, tea, milk, water, juices, smoothies, beer, wine, etc.

Preparation - Place the two drinks side by side on the table in front of you, sit comfortably on the chair and mentally label them as drink A and drink B.

Experiment - Finding the function of choice

Sit for a few moments, take a few relaxed breaths and let the dust settle. When you feel ready:

1. Look at drink A and at drink B. Think about their respective qualities, the things you like about them, compare and weigh the pros and cons of each. See if a preference is manifesting for one or the other.
2. Count to 5.
3. Choose one of the drinks. Pick it up and take a sip.

Questions:
Remember that we’re looking for some kind of function, a something, an ‘I’ which is doing the ‘choosing’.

In step 1 when thinking about their respective qualities, did you ‘choose’ the qualities? Or did they kind of appear by themselves? If some preferences manifested, did you ‘choose’ these preferences? Or did they just pop up by themselves?

In step 2 when you counted to 5, if the preferences took the back seat while the numbers took the front seat, did you ‘choose’ this sequence of event? Did you ‘choose’ to shut down the preferences to give way to the counting? Did you directly experience a mental function or faculty doing the ‘choosing’? Have you seen this function in action?

In step 3 where you made a choice, did you actually witness or directly experience a mental function or faculty doing the ‘choosing’? Did anything arise that announced, ‘I am the chooser’? If so, what does this function look like?

Sometimes we describe this sense of choosing as a ‘feeling’: It feels like ‘I’ did the ‘choosing’. But the question is, can a feeling ‘choose’? Is it in the nature of a feeling to ‘choose’?

With love, Kay

[NMSeeker]

Kay,

So does a thought control sensation?

No

Does a thought control thought?

No

Does thought control/determine anything?

No

Experiment - Finding the function of choice

Sit for a few moments, take a few relaxed breaths and let the dust settle. When you feel ready:

1. Look at drink A and at drink B. Think about their respective qualities, the things you like about them, compare and weigh the pros and cons of each. See if a preference is manifesting for one or the other.
2. Count to 5.
3. Choose one of the drinks. Pick it up and take a sip.

Questions:
Remember that we’re looking for some kind of function, a something, an ‘I’ which is doing the ‘choosing’.

In step 1 when thinking about their respective qualities, did you ‘choose’ the qualities?

No

Or did they kind of appear by themselves?

Yes

If some preferences manifested, did you ‘choose’ these preferences?

No

Or did they just pop up by themselves?

Yes

In step 2 when you counted to 5, if the preferences took the back seat while the numbers took the front seat, did you ‘choose’ this sequence of event?

No

Did you ‘choose’ to shut down the preferences to give way to the counting?

No

Did you directly experience a mental function or faculty doing the ‘choosing’?

No

Have you seen this function in action?

No

In step 3 where you made a choice, did you actually witness or directly experience a mental function or faculty doing the ‘choosing’?

No

Did anything arise that announced, ‘I am the chooser’?

No

If so, what does this function look like?

There was no function.

Sometimes we describe this sense of choosing as a ‘feeling’: It feels like ‘I’ did the ‘choosing’. But the question is, can a feeling ‘choose’?

No

Is it in the nature of a feeling to ‘choose’?

No

Thanks,
Todd

[forgetmenot]

Hello Todd,

You are going to have to give a little more than a yes or no answer please. Giving yes or no does not tell me if you are really seeing what is being pointed at or not. So unless you tell me different, I am going to assume that you see clearly through the idea of choice, control, responsibility and decision making. If not, then it will only come back to confuse you.


Okay, so let’s have a look at the body.

Sit with eyes closed for about 15 minutes.
Paying attention only to the pure sensations, without relying on thoughts or mental images:

Can it be known how tall the body is?
Does the body have a weight or volume?
In the actual experience does the body have a shape or a form?

Is there a boundary between the body and the clothing?
Is there a boundary between the body and the chair?

Is there an inside or an outside? If there is an inside - inside of what exactly?
If there is an outside, the outside of what exactly?

What does the word/label ‘body’ ACTUALLY refer to?
What is the ACTUAL experience of the body?

Look very carefully, especially with the last question. Take your time, don’t rush. You can look several times during the day while doing other things (like washing hands, showering, having a short break from work, walking, etc.) before replying.

With love, Kay