seeing not just intellectualizing

[vinceschubert]

Hi tissetassen, vince here. I will work with you.
Let's start with you telling me about your choice of name label for this enquirer.

Vince


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[tissetatten]

Oh hey sorry for the late answer didnt see your mail.

Well iv read the books iv seen that thoughts are a programming of past experiance and cannor be stoped and controlled all the time. Feelings get triggered by surcomstances sure. And even though i understand that "i" is just a made up word for comunicating i still feel that there is a me here. I can focus my thoughts on something, i am aware that i am alive, i experiance things throught my body not yours. So yes i do feel seperet and like a self with or without the word me or i or self being real.

[tissetatten]

Thanx

I see that i had turned of notifications. Turnd them on again so hopefully ill see your answers now

[tissetatten]

You wanna know about the name tissetatten?
Its my email adress. Its usually what automatically is a username when i buy stuff online so i figured id use it here to its easy to remember that way. Its not a real word

[vinceschubert]

Oops, sorry. I was wondering why you didn’t respond to my post. I didn’t get notification that you replied.
I am just getting home from a trip. I will get back to you tonight.

Vince

[tissetatten]

Thats fine. I had som trouble with notifications as well.
Its 1:40 at night here in sweden. So u know if i dont reply untill tomorrow

Hug

[vinceschubert]

Its not a real word

Ok, what does it mean to you ?
How did you come up with it ?
Is it any more or less a label that is useful in certain circumstances than your 'real' name ?
Are the characteristics that are expressed by the organism (that you know as you/I/me) attached to both labels equally ?

love

vince

[tissetatten]

Well i like cats and kissekatten in swedish means kittycat but it was raken as an email so i just changed the letters a bit to Ts instead of Ks. So tissetatten.
No im not that attached to my emailname.

[vinceschubert]

Good evening, Although it might seem conversational, i am not asking these questions in a social context.
Please answer EVERY question (?)
As well as an answer, please include the process that you go through to get to them.
If my questions are not clear, tell me, but answer with what you think that they might be.
Now have another go at the two questions that you missed;
Is it any more or less a label that is useful in certain circumstances than your 'real' name ?
Are the characteristics that are expressed by the organism (that you know as you/I/me) attached to both labels equally ?


vince

[tissetatten]

Its usefull forinstance here when im not using my real name. Its practical.

And if ur asing if i prefer my real name then yes. Simply because its prettier and has a longer history. But no not that attached to a name "word".

I hope i understood ur questions

[vinceschubert]

Good evening TisseTatten,

I hope i understood ur questions

No you didn't. Don't worry, we will sort this communication stuff..
Firstly, quote the question that you are going to answer. You will find out how to here; https://www.liberationunleashed.com/nat ... ?f=4&t=660
Secondly, don't read questions into what i ask. Take it literally.
For example, when i ask "Is it any more or less a label", i am not asking about preferences. i am asking if they are both labels or if one is more or less a label than the other.
Now certainly one has more history than the other, but does this make it more useful ? Is there any other reasons that might make one more useful than the other ?
On the next question, i'm not asking if you are attached to the labels. I'm asking what are the associations between the characteristics of the body and each of the labels.

Ok, have another go, and don't fret, we will get there.

vince

[tissetatten]

I really dont underdstand what you are asking but ill have another go.
"Is it any more or less a label"
No there both labels, made up letters made up words.

"Associasion of both labels and body"
Well they dont have an associasion with the body other then i love cats and can act like one

[vinceschubert]

Good morning tissetatten,

I really dont underdstand what you are asking

That's because you are either not reading what i write (you probably are) or you read it very quickly and then translate it into what you think that i'm asking. (you probably are)
Did you even click on the link to learn how to use the quote function ?

No there both labels, made up letters made up words.

Very good. You got that one right.

Well they dont have an associasion with the body other then i love cats and can act like one

If somebody calls your name, does the body respond ?
If an email arrives for tissetatten, do you respond ?
What other ways can you think of where there is an association between the labels and the body ?
Remember, use the quote function (tell me if you have problems working it out) and answer every question, and include why you came up with that answer.
What do you think that being awake (enlightened) is like ?

love

vince

[tissetatten]

when someone calles my name do i respond?

Yes i do, and i answer emails.
The mind/body responds when ever someone adresses me by name offcorse.
Or when i get letters or papers things of that nature.

what do you thibk being awake is like

a shift in perseption is what ppl have described it as, that im suposed to see things difrently then i do at the moment much freer yet natural. Less suffering and attachment, less distracted by thoughts and hopefully more flow in life

[vinceschubert]

Good evening tissetatten,

The mind/body responds when ever someone adresses me by name offcorse.

So the preferences that you have, the things that you like or dislike, do they belong to the body or the labels (the names) ?

and hopefully more flow in life

Can you describe how this would be ?

what ppl have described it as,

Do you think that everybody experiences it the same ?

to see things difrently then i do at the moment

What do you think it will take for you to have this happen ?

vince