Glimpses That Do Not Hold

[Now Awakening]

Hello,

There have been glimpses of reality, but they are rare and don't last more than 5 minutes or so. I was guided, recently actually, by a teacher, to a glimpse like this, and she was sure that it would stick if I continued to check in and look inward. Well it faded almost the moment we got off Skype. It appears from reading a bit that this is the kind of thing offered here. May I ask, what it the definition of awakening/liberation here? What does the red signify for example?

[jimmy]

Hello Now,

Liberation here is what comes from the seeing of no self. What does this word "liberation" mean to you? What do you expect here?

Regards, Jimmy

[Now Awakening]

If the seeing lasts 5 minutes and the rest of the time there is no seeing, that is not liberation. Liberation is the falling away of blinders for good. At least this is my sense of the word. As far as what I expect, the answer is nothing in particular. I can only relate that there has been some seeing in the past, and there is none currently. The hope, is that the seeing becomes more frequent, deeper, and if Grace is willing, that Liberation arises (for lack of a better word)

[jimmy]

I would like you to answer two questions for me. First, can you describe, in any way, what this temporary "seeing" is that you speak of? And second, who do you take yourself to be as you use the word "I"?

[Now Awakening]

1) I would say a seeing that I am not the body/mind/senses etc, but that everything is within this Awareness.

2) If you mean in general, it is the illusory I. If you mean if you ask me Who am I, I will know it is Awareness.

[jimmy]

Thank you for your answers. So, you have seen that you are not the body/mind/senses, and now you are personally identifying with them again. You are believing yourself to be the body/mind/senses. Is this correct?

[Now Awakening]

Well, I'd say it's more like there was seeing and now there is not. I don't sit around believing myself to be this body/mind, there is simply lack of awareness/seeing.

[jimmy]

What comes up when I tell you that you do not exist?

What is watching this drama of "once I could see and now I don't?"

[Now Awakening]

When I look (or am posed a question) , I know there is no one home.
But it's still an intellectual knowing.

"Liberation here is what comes from the seeing of no self."
Is this a constant in your experience, or comes and goes?
May I ask how the site decides who is Liberated?

[jimmy]

Once you, or anyone, have seen that there is no you, the beliefs of "someone" doing or knowing or choosing has no place to grab onto. There is no longer a "you" responsible for all the thoughts, actions and emotions. There's no one found when looked for. There is no identification with body/mind/senses.

Can identification happen again? Yes, and it requires your questioning and vigilance to continue "seeing" what is, and not seeing what isn't. Old habits, beliefs and feelings can be "picked up" and identified with again and again. The beauty is in having looked for yourself and seen that it's a self-generating game. You can play the game as long as you like, or look and see how it is played allowing you to see through the lie. The "seeing" continues to deepen for most people

If you're waiting for some big "bang" and feel disappointed that you haven't heard angels singing, simply ask yourself, "Who is disappointed?" and "Who has expectations of how it should be?"

After you and I are comfortable with your answers, I'd ask others to read your answers and confirm your liberation.

Back to work. Is there a you in any way, shape or form?

[Now Awakening]

This isn't some protocol that you follow and then there it is, my friends and I bestow on you the label Liberated.
Glimpses are not Liberation!
Self-realisation, the state of the Jnani, is Liberation.
When 99% of the time there is adhering to the illusion, and 1% there is a seeing of true nature, that is NOT Liberation.
Having to ask "Who is dissapointed" is not Liberation.
Any remnant of mego (me/ego) is not Liberation.
Any coming and going of deeply knowing True Nature is not liberation.
No wonder there are so many Liberated here.
Goodbye.

[jimmy]

The opportunity provided here is for you, your chance to look for yourself and see what you find. I would encourage you to allow words to be words, merely pointers. There is no truth in words. This is your process. If you want tips on looking, many are offered here. No one is bestowing any gifts or rewards for the work you may be willing to do. You are welcome to all of your notions as to what liberation may or may not look like. Look for yourself to the root of those notions. Those notions will simply keep you from seeing, while you busy yourself judging and deciding and maintaining your bondage. It's an inside job. This site is for those wanting to look, those wanting to be liberated from the identification and separation of self.