Diving head in!

[JonathanR]

Hi Franklin,

Totally. Today I woke up with my feet on the ground of non duality and when I went out I was feeling a constant, non stop and super powerful enmeshment with everyone. Non duality at its maximum expression. Its like time doesn't even exists. Total peace and love. A true "natural high".

Wonderful!

I don't know where I heard this before. The fruit stays on the tree until is ripe. Once its ready it falls off the tree and you can never put it back. I feel that's what happened to me. I have been plugged to this tree my whole life and suddenly I was ready and I fell off and I know and sometimes I don't know what to make of this.

Wondeful!

I am a very ambitious person and everything that I wished is now on the back of the back burner.

Yes, it cam happen. Something like this happened to 'me' too, for a while.

At the same time this sense of detachment brings a sense of that all the personal ideals that I have let go are now real....will now really come to pass.

Can you let me know some examples?

Its as if I am in the last scene in the movie The Matrix when Neo is killed but then he realizes its all an illusion. Now his existence is effortless because there was not a "tangible" Neo to begin with. I don't have to dodge the bullets anymore.

Perfect :-)

I feel that I caught the signal of the one real channel that existed and from moments I am losing the signal. Please continue to help me align myself totally with it.

In the first few weeks or months it is not uncommon for people to imagine that they have lost sight of 'no self', that they didn't really 'see' anything. Reason kicks up a fuss, doesn't rest peacefully with its story of 'I' being seen though. The noise can seem like interference and anyway it has to be expected that the illusion of 'me' will keep on appearing.

Sometimes it may seem that it has been 'forgotten' for a few minutes or hours and that 'I' really is 'a person'. Could that forgetting be prevented from happening? (Can a thought be prevented from appearing?). But then there is always a 'waking up'..."Oh, wow, did 'I' really dream that"?. Could that waking up be prevented from happening? This is why the insight is self-sustaining. Something mysterious keeps making it reappear.

It will align its self with 'you'.

Such a joy working with you Franklin.

Jon

[JonathanR]

Just need to let you know that I may not be able to post to you tomorrow as work is full-on.

But pease post to me and if not tomorrow I will reply on Sunday,

best,

Jon

[retro305]

Jonathan, it is my utmost pleasure to have you as a guide and I am blessed beyond what words can describe of having you as my guide. Thank you for letting me know about your availability this weekend. I have not been able to make the mental parentheses myself and keep the ball rolling, however I will be able to do so by Sunday night. I wish you more abundance and prosperity of the Spirit. (Here I will add all disclaimers related to "I", "me" or "you" :-) )

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[JonathanR]

Hi Franklin,

Jonathan, it is my utmost pleasure to have you as a guide and I am blessed beyond what words can describe of having you as my guide.

Thank you so much for saying this. It's my pleasure.

I'll wait to hear from you.

Jon.

[retro305]

Dear Jon, I trust that you had a wonderful weekend.

Can you let me know some examples?

Jon, its the strangest feeling....its a knowing that it will now come to pass. Not now now; but anytime from now. Why? because I am also knowing that time is not linear. So what happened 20 years ago it feels that happened last year so in the same way what will happen in 20 years from now for some reason it feels that it could also happen next week. This knowing has brought a peace that at this moment I cannot describe with words.

Now check this out; there have been a lot of by products of this realization. Now I am really seeing my thoughts like real clouds where the sky behind them is my consciousnesses just being there....aware of itself. I can now really observe that with silence and detachment. I am going back to the challenge that I shared with you earlier that I am going through: a divorce. I am seeing the mother of my child totally absorbed and identified with her "I" and how she is acting out of this place that told me, tells her and tells countess others that this whole thing is real. Sir, it can feel like a living hell. I know because I was there. And at the same time this is being witnessed with compassion and at times sadness without an ounce of spiritual arrogance because frankly what is the use? like me; she is a branch of the same tree.

This thing that its called reality has been such a persistent illusion. That is why it feels SO real.

I look forward to hear your thoughts on this and how you will push this ball forward. :-)

[JonathanR]

Hi Franklin,

Yes, thank you. a busy weekend but a good one.

Jon, its the strangest feeling....its a knowing that it will now come to pass. Not now now; but anytime from now. Why? because I am also knowing that time is not linear. So what happened 20 years ago it feels that happened last year so in the same way what will happen in 20 years from now for some reason it feels that it could also happen next week. This knowing has brought a peace that at this moment I cannot describe with words.

Beautiful.

And actually, if attention is bought for a moment to sensations, such as the feeling in the hands or whatever is heard right here and now, does it seem to you that there is just this NOW?

Now check this out; there have been a lot of by products of this realization. Now I am really seeing my thoughts like real clouds where the sky behind them is my consciousnesses just being there....aware of itself. I can now really observe that with silence and detachment.

Great! Yes.

Now of course, as guide, I must quiz you... :-)

Though I understand completely what you are saying, can a 'you' be found, that 'sees thoughts'?

Is it 'my consciousness', exactly?

But really, this silence and detachment is wonderful. There may be a story sometimes that detachment and silence are not possible. The illusion of 'I' appears and sometimes life can seem like a rollercoaster happening to a real someone. And there is no denying that some experiences seem uncomfortable. But then there is 'seeing' again, or even as the ups and downs are happening.

I am going back to the challenge that I shared with you earlier that I am going through: a divorce. I am seeing the mother of my child totally absorbed and identified with her "I" and how she is acting out of this place that told me, tells her and tells countess others that this whole thing is real. Sir, it can feel like a living hell. I know because I was there. And at the same time this is being witnessed with compassion and at times sadness without an ounce of spiritual arrogance because frankly what is the use? like me; she is a branch of the same tree.

Thank you for telling me about this. Once again, it is quite wonderful.

This thing that its called reality has been such a persistent illusion. That is why it feels SO real.

Yup. Well seen.

I look forward to hear your thoughts on this and how you will push this ball forward. :-)

Ha ha, well, things seem to be happening naturally in any case. The next natural step is for me to ask the guides to look at our conversation. To make their job easier I will paste in your answers to the six questions with your revised answer to question 5. Guides may come back with further helpful questions of their own.

I will paste your answers into the next post.

All the best,

Jon

[JonathanR]

Oops, sorry Franklin, reading back I see we need to consider question 5 again. We will do that first. I will post later today about that.

:-)

Jon

[retro305]

And actually, if attention is bought for a moment to sensations, such as the feeling in the hands or whatever is heard right here and now, does it seem to you that there is just this NOW?

ABSOLUTELY. Check this out: Every day I am only setting out to pay attention to what is happening an every instant. So I go in the "trance" that I have described to you earlier but the difference now is that I come out of it quick and I get back to the moment. When I get to the end of the day and I run an inventory of my day I am noticing that 1-my days seem to have "more hours" (longer day) 2-I am more peaceful and 3-I am happier. ONLY by paying attention to the very instant AND I couple that with feeling the sensations on parts of my body (whatever part calls my attention) when I am in the instant. I am making an art form of this and I know in my heart that the more I stay in the moment and paying attention to my sensations (not my thoughts); the better the days.

Though I understand completely what you are saying, can a 'you' be found, that 'sees thoughts'?

Is it 'my consciousness', exactly?

A "you" cannot be found. There is no "You". What is there is consciousness aware of itself. Its like a retroactive effect. I am not aware of this consciousnesses. The consciousnesses only is. And awareness is aware of it. Does this makes sense to you? I am trying to put an example in what I call "milk form" instead of "solid food" like I did just now.

The illusion of 'I' appears and sometimes life can seem like a rollercoaster happening to a real someone.

When that happens to me now; at times I chuckle. LOL.

[JonathanR]

Hi Franklin,

Let's take a look at your answer to question 5 from a few days ago. Since then we looked at 'decisions' and 'control' .

5) a) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control.
b) What makes things happen? How does it work?
c) What are you responsible for?
d) Give examples from experience.



a)....Decision is a logical conclusion. Intention is the blood that moves each action..its SO underrated. Free will is the reason why our race is in the mess that we are in today :) and Choice is the direction where a decision will take us....

b)Thought makes things happen. Experience ALWAYS follows thought. This is inevitable. The "power" behind each though is Mind and I am not referring to the brain but the Force that makes the cut heal on its own as I shared earlier. We are able to notice all this because we have consciousness and we are aware.

c)Be true to myself and always follow our innate infallible wisdom.

d) Its a knowing. Its a knowing that truly surpasses any human understanding. I have made decisions that look great on paper and it my heart of hearts I know that I am going against what my heart signaled me to do and voila! its just a matter of time for me to collect the "receipt" that I screwed up. In the same way I have moved in a direction that for everyone around me could be described as illogical but the call was a clear message from my heart and not before long I can see why I felt that way when things fall into perfect place.

That is how you answered at the time. But having explored these things more since, I suspect that you would answer differently now? The purpose of the question may make more sense to you now? (But let me know if it doesn't). Please have a go at answering question 5 again, as it is seen now, as if explaining to someone who had never heard of no self before.

Thank you.

All the best,

Jon

[retro305]

Jon.....YIKES!
I have read this twice and nothing different comes back. I feel the same way about how I answered my questions previously. I DO care about your take on this however I am at total Peace with my answers then and now.

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[JonathanR]

Hi Franklin,

No worries. It may be that I am not used to the fairly spontaneous language that you have used to answer Qu5. And in any case we have looked at these things.

I will ask other guides to take a look at our conversation. They may come back with questions of their own, or not.

They may take a little while to respond. I'll keep you posted.

Jon

[retro305]

This whole thing has been as if orchestrated in perfect harmony. I know that I will hear back from you exactly when I am supposed to.

Jon: THANK YOU so much for your genuine intention to help and assist. This gift that you have given of unconditional love is what it's all about.

THANKS.

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[JonathanR]

Hi Franklin,

Here, again, are your answers from around January 27th, so that the other guides can read them here.


1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?


No, there is not. There has never been. The illusion of the separateness has been a long and persistent one. That is why it feels so real.


2)Please explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now as if to someone who had never heard of no self before?


This illusion is manifested in each body hence the "illogical confirmation" that I end at the borders of my skin and you begin at the borders of yours. This whole process of working with you has throwing me into a deep and yummy pool. Now I am realizing that those times that I have felt this "bliss' while lets say; praying with other like minded beings, enjoying a great Church service or dancing at a great party; it has been because unconsciously my consciousness (no pun intended) has meshed with the collective and I then feel the exponential bliss of the peace that comes as the result of this connection; of feeling this oneness.


3)How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.


IN the last few days it has been easy to revert to the old believe that I am here and that you are there but the metaphor of learning that Santa does not exist totally applies to where I am right at this moment. Without realizing I could be in the supermarket asking a cold cut to the deli lady and doing it in a "trance" (I call that to any moment when I am awake but in cruise control) and out of the sudden I get sucked back in to the instant and I see her as another finger of the same hand, another branch of the same tree and I get really connected and it feels like a small high. Geez.....I feel a sense of connection that I have felt BUT didn't know why. The school of thought that was handed down to me was that we are all "brothers and sisters" and my new understanding shatters that in a million pieces.

You know what is happening to me lately? I am even seeing the people on TV like a part of me. I live in Washington DC and its not because I have been to the White House or Capitol Hill and its not because my HD TV makes all the images look SO real; I am even feeling a colossal sense of connectedness to President Trump and everyone I have been seeing lately as if........I have known them my whole life. Its like I could pick up the phone and call any of this dignitaries and then I know I cannot but something inside tells me I can :). What a beautiful conundrum! Even more with you. I don't know you yet I feel that you are me and I am you, that we are One. Jon.....I have been a student of Life for the past 15 years.....I just cannot believe where my perception will be a year from now; experiencing life this way one day at at time.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?


I was meditating and out of the sudden the usual "staying in the space between each thought to just be" was transformed into a total and absolute mesh with everything. I felt "no separation" I have never felt that before. I asked why is this? I heard: "There is no you".

5) a) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control.


hmmmm....Decision is a logical conclusion. Intention is the blood that moves each action..its SO underrated. Free will is the reason why our race is in the mess that we are in today :) and Choice is the direction where a decision will take us.

b) What makes things happen? How does it work?


Thought makes things happen. Experience ALWAYS follows thought. This is inevitable. The "power" behind each though is Mind and I am not referring to the brain but the Force that makes the cut heal on its own as I shared earlier. We are able to notice all this because we have consciousness and we are aware.

c) What are you responsible for?


Be true to myself and always follow our innate infallible wisdom.

d) Give examples from experience.

Its a knowing. Its a knowing that truly surpasses any human understanding. I have made decisions that look great on paper and it my heart of hearts I know that I am going against what my heart signaled me to do and voila! its just a matter of time for me to collect the "receipt" that I screwed up. In the same way I have moved in a direction that for everyone around me could be described as illogical but the call was a clear message from my heart and not before long I can see why I felt that way when things fall into perfect place.

6) Anything to add?


Not for now....

[JonathanR]

Dear Franklin,

Several guides have between them asked about seven or eight questions.

This is good but these are not questions I would have asked at this stage. It is possible, as I mentioned before, that language may become an issue as you answer, as guides want to be sure that what they see you write is not suggestive of any remaining belief in a separate self or a 'chooser' or 'decider'. We can talk about this language if you wish to accept the questions.

First thing I need to say is that I am absolutely thrilled to have been working with you. Nothing can take away what has been seen. You may just shoot down these questions like plastic ducks at a fairground but if they reveal anything that we need to look at together they will have been extremely valuable gifts.

Would you like me to send the questions?

All the best,

Jon

[retro305]

ABSOLUTELY!

Please send them and let me know whenever possible. On this note; I do believe that we have accomplished A LOT by using words. The bottom line is that they are only pointers..labels. And I do understand that you are gauging me by the way the words are being written and this is totally fine.

I need to share with you 2 things. The first one is that for some reason, Franklin is treated like gold anywhere I go or do. Well...I just hung up a call with customer service and the representative was the most condescending and berating I have ever come across. The greatest thing is that when I hung up with him, I was literally laughing because whatever words he used; just went through me. This has never happened to me. For more petty things I have taken things way personally. While this whole thing was unraveling I am telling you; its as if everything was going through me as the real hologram I have realized I am. I have never felt so much peace. THANK YOU Jon.

2nd.....its not recall if I have mentioned to you that I am personally building an Orphanage in the Dominican Republic; the country that I am originally from. Well...I need to plant a seed with you and the rest of the guides: Your help is needed to help me incorporate this journey in the curriculum for Genesis Home. I am building this place because in a way I lost most of my faith in the human condition and I always knew that something can be done with children IF they are given the right programming from the get go in a safe and loving place. Can you believe if Liberation Unleashed is taught in children's language and our kids would know this Truth at months old?? this IS what is all about!! :-)

I hope that I didn't overstepped a boundary with my request and if I did; please let me know.

THANKS Jon, THANKS.