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Re: Love

Postby Rebeccac » Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:42 am

Darn it, I've been wondering bout that.
Yes don't u think that's how a baby does see things. Separate ? Then of course to communicate items are given labels , then we also have words put into sentences, nouns ,verbs adjective to describe actions so a moving being seems to be separate from a cup, . But when we get all philosophical we have no separate self, or we don't exist, there is no "I". So it's difficult to retrain brain,, the poor thing. Lol,,, been conditioned, no one's to blame it just was , is and will be . How else can a person teach a baby. Of course it's gone overboard and need to get back to basics of true nothingness. , I guess it's a double sided sword. The pictures indicate a separate self.
But to the creator or source we are all flowing energy in experience .

Am intrigued as to were this goes ,
Different interpretations??
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Re: Love

Postby Canfora » Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:41 pm

Darn it, I've been wondering bout that.
Yes don't u think that's how a baby does see things. Separate ?
Are you saying that a baby sees things separate? I think babies learn to see things separate when they're not.
Then of course to communicate items are given labels , then we also have words put into sentences, nouns ,verbs adjective to describe actions so a moving being seems to be separate from a cup, .
What do you think a being is?
But when we get all philosophical we have no separate self, or we don't exist, there is no "I".
I'm not sure if I understand what you're saying here. What is for you getting all philosophical?
need to get back to basics of true nothingness
What is for you getting back to true nothingness? How do you know you're back to true nothingness?
Am intrigued as to were this goes ,
Different interpretations??
Yes, that's possible. Why do you say that?

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Re: Love

Postby Rebeccac » Fri Nov 11, 2016 3:09 am

Yes, agree babies "learn to see"separate in this culture , wonder when on this planet babies will not be taught that?
Beings in my thought is a human form

Philosophical is what I understand of asking " if the table is really there" and summing up as all is illusion/dream.
I call nothingness~no self cause I see nothing behind it all
Different interpretations or rather insights, I believe things can always be scene in different angles.
I remember the prior question you had on the seer , seeing, scene.
Like who is doing the noun verb adjective? And it hit me , in English class when being taught this I was thinking its not an "I" it's what's behind it all that is doing this. I really knew I was "God my own . We would do magic syoncing people that we called out appear in the mirror and me and my friends could levitate up to the ceiling,so kind of knew something was more to this human stuff. So it takes more than an "I To do that stuff maybe, something grander.
Just can't make stupid negative thoughts stop when they pop up over and over, been crying pretty much all week, like when's my story end ! Story after story. Maybe a little lighter when I know none of it matters , it's just a story, just wish it could be changed to be in a happier living environment right now with someone that could actually have a conversation with ! Love my cats though, the keep purring the calm love to me

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Re: Love

Postby Canfora » Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:18 pm

just wish it could be changed to be in a happier living environment right now with someone that could actually have a conversation with !
Do you think not having someone to talk to is a problem? If it is, is there something that you can do to change your life circumstances in a way that will create opportunities to meet people and make friends? What is keeping you from taking small steps to change the way things are now?
I have this reminder in my outlook calendar and I think it is a helpful suggestion (I can't remember who wrote this): "less thinking about your life and more thinking about your week".

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Re: Love

Postby Rebeccac » Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:34 pm

Yes, just sad that my kids moved away, so my life story is now weekly story of just work and motion of no relationship with husband. We have one more daughter vto see thru college of fine arts then things will open, but now is now and get to really reflect which is nice, things aren't perfect for anyone ,
As for reflection to around of my contribution to world is hopes in great LOVE and showing the freedom of NO self.
Thank u,. Will look into different breakthrough of friends and communication with husband. Or it may be to late He's kind of had it with me He's not so bad ,,now , he's changed but was just bad bad bad past !! A look above to down below on past cab be hilariously ridiculous.
So with a no self , how does karmic debts play out in a life or lives ?? Or does that not exist,. , Illusion?

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Re: Love

Postby Canfora » Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:20 pm

Well, I think karma - if such thing exists - has to be what is going on now. There is nothing else that could be karma, just this now experience, as it is (which doesn't mean I don't have my own stories about why things and people are as they are, and life happens the way it happens...).
the freedom of NO self.
Can you write a little about no self? What is no self in your opinion? How is no self experienced?

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Re: Love

Postby Rebeccac » Fri Nov 11, 2016 3:14 pm

Opinion on no self, as Elaina described of the looking behind the thoughts , as which finds to be a flow, a flow of actions where no thought is. When lookin at thoughts , see the originator as the body built up emotions, past learning , reacting to . Even the feeding to and from them.
Ive experienced the no self as a remembrance of looking at when I was about 4 years old , and my brother put me in a tree, and just the releasing of really a self , it's a seeing of no seeing , becoming one with that tree and everything around, and as grew older realizing. And knowing that the mind is a computer that's constantly needs to clear out viruses. A knowing to listen to what the body speaks, a feeling into each cell.its an imagination working thru the body to create what ever we want. That's all its ever been. Then we create stories, the good and bad are really a just " is story" .the"i am that I am".
All so funny, then forgotten sometimes since gets caught up in the story.
" No self knowing is such a liberation"
I still connect with that tree, and talk to it
In the imagination

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Re: Love

Postby Canfora » Fri Nov 11, 2016 4:53 pm

Are you 100% sure a separate self doesn't exist? Do you have any doubts?

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Re: Love

Postby Rebeccac » Fri Nov 11, 2016 9:53 pm

Welll yes, no self, the brain would like to respond to u on that I'm sure. Lol

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Re: Love

Postby Canfora » Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:01 pm

How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.

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Re: Love

Postby Rebeccac » Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:34 am

Hello, had work today and chores will get back on posting tomorrow !
Thank you !

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Re: Love

Postby Rebeccac » Mon Nov 14, 2016 3:16 pm

Whoops, didn't sit down at computer , now at work and in busy harvest season, long hours, arggg . Hoping response later,, thank u for patience, will make comment that it is best for perspective and sensation experience, all words that sum up the experience no self, I have a little time now and hopefully can remember question of how has this changed looking back last days,
Responding would be, emotions are looked at as what is receiving them and looking at minds response, before it would have gone into a program of a self but now catch the though , noticing no self to have thought play out and feeling of such peace , liberation and openness to true nature , reality as it is !!
Thank you, what the shift was thru the lOOking of your direct questions,

The issue I see now with watching others in this so called spiritual quests is that there is no satisfaction , until the realization oft a NO SElf ! Thank u, Everytime my mind says, "oh but Wait," you haven't found yourself, meditate, listen to the this, do that blah blah blah,
LAUGHING accurs breathing and flowing into nature, maybe in my own little world???

Work duty calls now !
Thank u for the patience
Rebecca

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Re: Love

Postby Canfora » Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:37 pm

Been busy here also. Glad to know you've been looking and laughing!
Here are some other questions:

Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control.
What makes things happen? How does it work?
What are you responsible for?
Give examples from experience.

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Re: Love

Postby Rebeccac » Tue Nov 15, 2016 1:19 pm

Laughing is a wonderful sensation, long day with work, will write these questions so I can revert on answer on later, thank thank you!!!!!!

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Re: Love

Postby Rebeccac » Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:38 am

hi,
describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control.
so, I have typed and erased several times... not knowing how to start. my brain sees these 5 questions and tries to separate but came down to them all being thrown in a bag as just a movement. some of which thoughts come into further to assist with past learnt behaviors.
example on decision. our bodies involuntary do left, right movements . the action happens before the thought is .
when I was looking for jobs my eyes saw , my finger clicked on job opening, it was more of a flow of following an inner feel than a decision. as when thinking that its a decision on what someone orders to eat, its more of the body telling it what its needing or wanting to taste from past senses.
Intention example: is where again a thought of "wanting" something to happen. but that thought comes from just a knowing --- again movement flow. A thought comes and goes. just a movement. , intention. cant even stick to anything.
free will example: don't think much of, more of whatever happens as what has been set up to happen, people think that they have free will but the flow, bodily functions thru sensations just happens, which parallels with
control: no control... not even have to control to think that or do . so funny, just a flow. maybe can control to actually pick up a cup, put it to the mouth to drink, you can think that you control that movement but you don't, its just a movement. it happens even before you think to actually do.
The mind will tell us that it does it but when looking , does not.
which is funny on I just read your last question of
"what makes things happen, how does it work"
all the answers had the "happen " in them, so to answer how does it work>?
flow,,,, movement, breathe.
noticing as I wake up and go thru day, that's all this life is, thoughts come. and they go. even trying to remember a thought, you can find it from going back into yesterday and relocate that thought, try to think it, even then its refabricated. not even in same context. Imagination is wonderful. and realizing how this no self is .
just liberating. my thoughts are not as heavy. there is no reason for them to be. It just is.
this body has the senses , so sense and have movement, just like a tree, a cat, a car.
the answers seem pretty basic ,maybe no real experiences. I drive a semi as my job and watch the flow all day. , because of this forum am noticing less thoughts, when they do appear it seems to be of prior thoughts just coming up for something to do.
also not getting as annoyed with situations around me. well my husband is annoying but I remind the mind that it to shall pass. thank goodness for cats, trees, wind, sun, and beautiful breeze.
thank you. have an absolute aweness. . . love
rebecca


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