Requesting a guide, please - ThinqueTank

[Canfora]

Don't think so, but unclear about "doubts"? Doubts would be an expectation correct?

There are many persons that share that, after crossing the gate, they spend some time shifting between "I see it!" and "I lost it!" - moments of clear seeing that there is no self and moments of thinking that it can't be true, there must be one.

Would you say that if doubting starts to happen you know what to do to with that doubts? Are you able to look at thinking and compare thinking with what is going on right now? That is the main "tool" LU as to offer, in my opinion, the ability to look at your experience and see what is going on in the moment and also see what isn't going on at the moment (Paul Hedderman uses to say "thinking is a trip into what's not happening" and if you spend some time looking at the content of thinking and labeling thoughts you will see how true this saying is!).

So, what can you see going on right now? What is your experience of this moment?
Is this moment enough as it is? Could it be any different?

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Are you ready for LU standard questions or is there something else that you would like to look at?

[ThinqueTank]

"I'm" not sure "I'll" know what to do about doubts when they pop up. It's not under my control, I can only hope to say "this is doubting, and it happened." if that situation were to occur in the future and even if I happen to be carried away by thoughts, it's simply life being life. The "I" is just life. Whatever happens is life just happening.

Completely agree with that quote as well.

In this moment is just life. Not anymore to it because life is everything, so it is enough and there is no more to it.

Nothing else to look at at the moment. So ask away!

[Canfora]

You sound very wise, Rhett.

Nothing else to look at at the moment. So ask away!

Wonderful. Here are the questions - don't forget to give examples from your experience in Q5.
You don't need to answer them all at once. Have fun!

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.

3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

5) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control. What makes things happen? How does it work? What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.

6) Anything to add?

[ThinqueTank]

You sound very wise, Rhett.

Nothing else to look at at the moment. So ask away!

Wonderful. Here are the questions - don't forget to give examples from your experience in Q5.
You don't need to answer them all at once. Have fun!

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.

3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

5) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control. What makes things happen? How does it work? What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.

6) Anything to add?

Sorry for the late reply Sandra.

1. There is no separate self, there is no separate self, period. Although there is an urge and there are slips where things are taken personally, simple reminders if they happen to come up to point back in the "no self" aspect and that there never was a separate self.

2. The illusion of separate self is labeling of the current moment/life in such a way that it reflects ownership of the moment on a "personal" level. Right now there's a fear that "I" am not understanding "no self" and that "I" am not reaching "liberation" because "I" am not good enough to do so. Instead of labeling this as simply "Fear of inadequacy" and the emotions that come with it, "I" am trying to experience this internally in a way that it's adding to "my" story and simply not just life as it is.

3. Currently feeling what is felt and experiencing it only as fear and nothing more, there still is fear. But that's just fine. At one point, can't help to think that there would be resistance to this fear if experienced prior to the last few days, but also maybe not. But right now I feel like the self is resisting a lot with negativity and further discouragement.

Feeling a little anxiety right now, perhaps a rest is in store. Will respond to more later tonight and finish the rest of this question.

[Canfora]

Thank you for your answers, Rhett.

But right now I feel like the self is resisting a lot with negativity and further discouragement.

What is this self you're talking about?

When a strong emotion arises - sensations + label (fear) + thoughts (story about what is going on) - what can you see causing the emotion, if you look directly at it? Is it a you?

I have read this today and it made me think about what you said about feeling fear. It seems to be an easy, simple, practice and maybe it will help you:

"Take a moment, pause, and look at life as it presents itself without labels. When a label arises, take a moment, pause, and look at the label. When a feeling arises with a label, take a moment, pause, and experience the feeling all by itself. This is what it is like to be awake. If you make being awake into anything other than that, it just means there is a label arising that you do not see. Take a moment, pause and look at that. There is nothing mystical about awakening at all. Just labels and feelings that can be de-mystified at any moment with a pause and a look." ~ Scott Kiloby

[ThinqueTank]

Thank you for your answers, Rhett.

But right now I feel like the self is resisting a lot with negativity and further discouragement.

What is this self you're talking about?

When a strong emotion arises - sensations + label (fear) + thoughts (story about what is going on) - what can you see causing the emotion, if you look directly at it? Is it a you?

I have read this today and it made me think about what you said about feeling fear. It seems to be an easy, simple, practice and maybe it will help you:

"Take a moment, pause, and look at life as it presents itself without labels. When a label arises, take a moment, pause, and look at the label. When a feeling arises with a label, take a moment, pause, and experience the feeling all by itself. This is what it is like to be awake. If you make being awake into anything other than that, it just means there is a label arising that you do not see. Take a moment, pause and look at that. There is nothing mystical about awakening at all. Just labels and feelings that can be de-mystified at any moment with a pause and a look." ~ Scott Kiloby

Sorry about that Sandra.

The self was what I mistaken for me feeling fear, anxiety and doubt. It was trying to internalize the story of not being sufficient. Looking at the emotions, only thing I can really see are the emotions. Don't see where they are coming from.

The quote is awesome and beautiful by the way. Thank you for sharing it! Look forward to applying with when possible. Just did actually.

Continuing on from the earlier post:

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

5) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control. What makes things happen? How does it work? What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.

6) Anything to add?

4. Almost right at the start, not being able to directly experience a self when asked to find it. First it couldn't be seen, then tried to rationalize feeling it, but realized no matter what senses used, the self can't be found that way. Also realizing that thoughts cannot be controlled, then there is no controller either, that life was just there to be lived/sensed and because of this there could be no knowing what comes ahead. Just also realized right now, there never was control in the past either.

5. Part of the last question answers this question for the time being. Don't know what makes things happen, without sounding broad and saying "life" does. Will come back to 5 and 6 tomorrow again.

[Canfora]

Sorry about that Sandra.

That's ok, Rhett. I experience the same kind of stuff. Life isn't all about birds and flowers...

The quote is awesome and beautiful by the way. Thank you for sharing it! Look forward to applying with when possible. Just did actually.

:) good.

Just also realized right now, there never was control in the past either.

Yes. Nice realization.

Will come back to 5 and 6 tomorrow again.

Take your time, there is no need to rush.

[ThinqueTank]

Ok, going to finally finish the last set of questions :)

5. Decision is letting life happen as it does. As was discussed, there is no control is making decisions. There is no "making things happen," things "just happen," we're not responsible for anything because there's no "us" doing it. Everything to this moment is simply how life happened, because life is everything. Right now the dog is barking, maybe or maybe not I go outside and see what's the commotion about. "I" just did though, it was nothing but traffic.

That decision was completely out of "my" hands. It felt like a decision "I" made, but "I" wasn't in control of it, so "I" made no decision.

6. Nothing is popping up at the moment. Can't force anything to anyway!

[Canfora]

Hi there! I'm going to ask the other guides if they want to ask you some questions or if everything sounds clear. This can take a while! I will make a post when I have news.

[ThinqueTank]

Hi there! I'm going to ask the other guides if they want to ask you some questions or if everything sounds clear. This can take a while! I will make a post when I have news.

OK thank you for everything Sandra! Looking forward to the reply!

[Canfora]

Good morning, Rhett. We have no more questions to you. Welcome to the other side of the Gate :)
One of the administrators is going to send you some information and I hope to see you again in the FB groups or in the Unleashed forum. It was a pleasure being your guide!

[ThinqueTank]

Good morning, Rhett. We have no more questions to you. Welcome to the other side of the Gate :)
One of the administrators is going to send you some information and I hope to see you again in the FB groups or in the Unleashed forum. It was a pleasure being your guide!

Words can't express enough gratitude for your help Sandra. Thank you for your patience, form and adroitness. Couldn't ask for a greater guide. Life is great! May the flow of it bring all the thrills and wonders your way.

[Canfora]

That's so kind of you! Thank you, Rhett. I also wish you all the best and send you my love :)