See in direct experience what happens/arises (I mean in terms of sensations, thoughts, ...) when what you call "taking a thoughts seriously" happens.Don’t really know how to answer these questions. Things happen, thoughts appear, the body react in different ways, judgments are being made.
What is that is directing the attention?Thoughts pop up (often accompanied with sensations) and some are paid attention to and others not
It’s pretty much what I wrote before. The most common theme is that awareness/attention is narrowed down and a sort of contraction is happening. Then of course the sensations differ depending on what kind of thoughts it is that is being believed.See in direct experience what happens/arises (I mean in terms of sensations, thoughts, ...) when what you call "taking a thoughts seriously" happens.
Just write down what you notice.
Attention just moves around. There are thoughts coming in later saying that ‘I’ am directing the attention, but that’s just thoughts. There is no control of attention.What is that is directing the attention?
Can you control your attention?
How thoughts become stronger and stronger?Most often the stream of thoughts coming gets stronger and stronger.
Ok, it’s true that a thought is always a thought and in a way there isn’t any difference between thoughts. But awareness “focus in and/or out” at the stream of thoughts appearing. This seems to make all the difference.How thoughts become stronger and stronger?
Inherently no.Can thoughts do something?
Thoughts appear one at a time. Sometimes the gaps/space between thoughts are widening, sometimes it’s difficult finding, paying attention to them at all.What is happening is direct experience?
Do you mean attention?Ok, it’s true that a thought is always a thought and in a way there isn’t any difference between thoughts. But awareness “focus in and/or out” at the stream of thoughts appearing. This seems to make all the differenceHow thoughts become stronger and stronger?
Yes, I mean attention :)Do you mean attention?
Yes, absolutely.For the sake of using the same terms there is attention that is something related to the mind and it changes focus, while awareness is the space in which everything (comprised attention) appears.
Can you relate with that in your experience?
No. With all these questions it’s quite obvious that things can’t be controlled, simply by the fact that if they could be, “I” would have chosen differently ;)Can the attention you where talking about be controlled?
No, the attention just moves around. But it all does feel to be very centered towards the head/mind making it seem/feel like there’s something there steering things… Just a feeling though, combined with a thought…Is there something moving the attention from one object to the other?
It's great that you saw that. Basically it works usually like this.No, the attention just moves around. But it all does feel to be very centered towards the head/mind making it seem/feel like there’s something there steering things… Just a feeling though, combined with a thought…
Thank for your notice :)- I'll be going away for a few days on thursday. From thursday on I probably won't be able to reply until next sunday or monday.
What is saying that there is a me?although if not looked at, it’s easy to say that there’s a me somewhere doing the focusing or paying attention…
What is doing all this process?For a change it were actually quite nice and effortless to meditate today. When you just sit down and just notice and look at things it’s quite effortless :)
Thoughts. Habits…What is saying that there is a me?
I’ve looked and looked and not found a what or who, that does all this.What is doing all this process?
I would say that there is always an awareness present. You can not, not be present. This is like an underlying background that always “sees” what’s happening. Like thoughts appearing, sensations and so on. It sees all this coming and going.How does this seeing part work in direct experience?
Great that you see this.I would say that there is always an awareness present. You can not, not be present. This is like an underlying background that always “sees” what’s happening. Like thoughts appearing, sensations and so on. It sees all this coming and going.
No, nothing can happen outside of awareness as it then wouldn’t be registered.Can this awareness be separated from what appears?
Good question. As the attention moves around it often feels like it. But when examining what’s happening it’s seen that awareness and experience is the same. I need to contemplate that!Is there something looking at something else?
As I don't know how to accurately describe what/who Jakob is, it can be concluded that Jakob only exist in thoughts. Then there’s sensations, sounds and so on appearing. When thinking that the sensations and sounds all stand on their own there's a different feel to it.Is the jakob something that appears too (in the form of sensations, thoughts,...)?
Thoughts reclaim what happens.Hi, back again!
As I don't know how to accurately describe what/who Jakob is, it can be concluded that Jakob only exist in thoughts. Then there’s sensations, sounds and so on appearing. When thinking that the sensations and sounds all stand on their own there's a different feel to it.
It feels more spacious. That’s probably the best way I can describe it.How is it different?
To be honest everything is pretty much the same as always. It’s only when meditating/contemplating this that it feels more present. Mostly I’m lost in the world of appearances. I think I need to spend more time sitting with this, feeling into it.How does seeing all this feel?
Great!To be honest everything is pretty much the same as always. It’s only when meditating/contemplating this that it feels more present. Mostly I’m lost in the world of appearances. I think I need to spend more time sitting with this, feeling into it.
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