Hello Ilona,
Your first question in chat earlier today: Are you thru? And the immediate response was - "Don't know". Thats it ! That was a truthful answer ! This became crystal clear only a short while ago a few minutes after I headed out on my daily running/play time. There was no thinking about any of this. There was just what ever was - body moving, bare feet feeling the cool temperature of the sidewalk, the warm sun and bam! Suddenly it was crystal clear! What you asked me about being thru! The answer is: OF COURSE NOT! THERES NO GATE! THERE IS NO ONE TO GO THRU ANYTHING. THERES NO ONE HERE. THERE IS NOTHING AND NO ONE. NO DAVID. NO GATE. NO ENLIGHTENMENT. NO SUCH THING AS AWAKENING LOLOLO! No one too awaken. So the idea of a someone going anyplace in any way and in any direction is not just ludicrous its impossible! LOLOLO
So, did I go thru something? Pass thru something? Become something? Let go of anything? Transform anything? Transmute anything? Unbecome something?
Did "I" do anything? No. Theres no going thru anything or any gate. There has never been anyone here who has ever done, or felt, or heard, or said, or read anything. No doer. No thinker.
LOLOLO Nope! No, there was no passing thru any "gate". But love the question! And what it generated a short time later (but in truth nothing was generated any time later lol)
There is liteness and ease and calmness and peacefulness and stillness Or is there ? Nope! Those are stories and concepts as well. All they really are, are labels that poorly assist in attempting to describe what isn't possible to describe in language because language completely misses the point, the mark, the completeness of just this perfect moment as direct experience and direct seeing what is. Raw. Naked. Empty. Nothingness. Existence.
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Bingo!
How does it feel?
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How does it feel?
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How does it feel? "It" feels natural. "Ordinary". The human animal. Living in this human animal body. Naked. Exposed. Extraordinarily Ordinary. Direct contact. What ever shows up as the direct experience. Feelings just come and go. Thinking arises and passes away - comes and goes.
AND NONE OF THIS IS HAPPENING !!!! BECAUSE ITS HAPPENING TO NO ONE, NO BODY, NO THING. David who? No history is real. And if thoughts of what ever arise, thats fine, its happening and being thought by no one. lololo
These are all words pointing at NOTHING. The somatic physical visceral sensations, the impersonal thoughts feelings and emotions that arise in this empty nothingness are impersonal and are happening to no one.
How does it feel? As best as can be described at this moment.....No past. No future. No dream. No fantasies. No fears. No worries. No pain. No wounds. There is just what is happening here...computer keys being tapped. Air coolness. Sun is shining. Smell of something called incense. The feel of reading glasses on the face. Gravity. Clothes on.
It feels like what ever is being directly experienced. No books. No words. No one here directing this or anything else. There is a fun liteness and enjoyment as there is watching what will be typed out next! Ha !!! LOLOLOL
AND NONE OF THIS IS HAPPENING !!!! BECAUSE ITS HAPPENING TO NO ONE, NO BODY, NO THING. David who? No history is real. And if thoughts of what ever arise, thats fine, its happening and being thought by no one. lololo
These are all words pointing at NOTHING. The somatic physical visceral sensations, the impersonal thoughts feelings and emotions that arise in this empty nothingness are impersonal and are happening to no one.
How does it feel? As best as can be described at this moment.....No past. No future. No dream. No fantasies. No fears. No worries. No pain. No wounds. There is just what is happening here...computer keys being tapped. Air coolness. Sun is shining. Smell of something called incense. The feel of reading glasses on the face. Gravity. Clothes on.
It feels like what ever is being directly experienced. No books. No words. No one here directing this or anything else. There is a fun liteness and enjoyment as there is watching what will be typed out next! Ha !!! LOLOLOL
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It feels....as it is.....just this...what ever is arising....what ever just is.....in this moment and that is all and that is nothing. No metaphors. No passages from books from any "ism" or from any so-called "practice lololo.
It feels like exactly what "it" is. Nothing. No one to experience or create or identify with anything.
It feels like exactly what "it" is. Nothing. No one to experience or create or identify with anything.
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I feel it's time for you to answer some "final questions" and join the community FB..
Here they are :)
1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.
3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.
4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?
5) Can you talk about decision, intention, free will, choice and control? What makes things happen? How does it work? What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.
6) Anything to add?
Please answer in full, take your time.
Much love.
I feel it's time for you to answer some "final questions" and join the community FB..
Here they are :)
1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.
3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.
4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?
5) Can you talk about decision, intention, free will, choice and control? What makes things happen? How does it work? What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.
6) Anything to add?
Please answer in full, take your time.
Much love.
See for yourself.
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Hello Ilona,
I will answer and post each question separately.
1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
No. There is not a separate "self", "me", "I" anywhere, in any way shape or form. There has never been. Ever. This body/brain/organism AND EVERY OTHER organism/human animal or so-called nonhuman animal has absolutely never had a separated self. Never. In the history of the entire universe (more stories). All just convenient (misleading and arbitrary and silly) labels that have caused the illusion and endless stories of confusion, pain, strife, the illusion of separation, need, desire, suffering, conflict, wars and endless hurt to a fictitious self and so-called others.
There has has been ANY separation of any kind or to any degree at any time, any place, anywhere in the history of the universe, (more silly and convenient labeling here). There is bracketing because language is being used and language is easily causes distortions, confusion and misrepresentations of raw, unadorned factual existence. So, there is bracketing due to being as precise in this moment as is possible. (amusing way of saying something that is happening impersonally because there is no "me" doing the writing and answering of the questions! HA ! It is great fun and an enjoyable process and thing to behold. Nothing to be serious about. Woke up very early this morning giggling. There was this laughter in the dark of the early morning lolololo.....Wow ! Ha!
I will answer and post each question separately.
1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
No. There is not a separate "self", "me", "I" anywhere, in any way shape or form. There has never been. Ever. This body/brain/organism AND EVERY OTHER organism/human animal or so-called nonhuman animal has absolutely never had a separated self. Never. In the history of the entire universe (more stories). All just convenient (misleading and arbitrary and silly) labels that have caused the illusion and endless stories of confusion, pain, strife, the illusion of separation, need, desire, suffering, conflict, wars and endless hurt to a fictitious self and so-called others.
There has has been ANY separation of any kind or to any degree at any time, any place, anywhere in the history of the universe, (more silly and convenient labeling here). There is bracketing because language is being used and language is easily causes distortions, confusion and misrepresentations of raw, unadorned factual existence. So, there is bracketing due to being as precise in this moment as is possible. (amusing way of saying something that is happening impersonally because there is no "me" doing the writing and answering of the questions! HA ! It is great fun and an enjoyable process and thing to behold. Nothing to be serious about. Woke up very early this morning giggling. There was this laughter in the dark of the early morning lolololo.....Wow ! Ha!
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2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.
The illusion of a separated self is the misidentification with "reality/truth/existence". This phenomenon begins at the age of approximately 2 years. This is commonly referred to as the terrible 2's. The irony is, how very accurate this begins and 99.999% of the humans alive Never move beyond this "perceived" sense, this illusion of separation. It remains intact with the insistence, ratification, reifying of this sense of separation commonly known as "ego" and "maya".
This is a globally confused condition that is consistently reinforced as we undergo the physical and psychological "maturation process". This reinforcement process is inadvertently compounded thru our social interactions with family as well as friendships formed in school. This "education" process is reified constantly thruout childhood into (so-called) adulthood due to the fact that everyone we are in contact with is living in the same confused, numbed down, myopic condition that is/was inherited (again inadvertently) from our parents, siblings, educational process, friendships, partners, activities and the media in all its guises. This confused state of believing we are separated is so deeply reinforced that it is or feels closer to us then our own name or skin or eye brows, as it were and reinforced again and again by literally every human being we come in contact with, what we read, what is seen in the media and then what is presumably felt as a solid and therefore valid "life experience". This is the reifying of the illusion of so-called egohood, narcissistic and self centered living and therefore maya.
This illusion of separation has caused in my own life a great deal of suffering, neurosis and misery. BUT ITS ALL BEEN INDUCED AND REINFORCED OVER AND OVER AGAIN BY THIS DREAM STATE ILLUSION BECAUSE I/WE (BELIEVE) I/WE ARE SEPARATE FROM EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING. I had lived this way for decades. Being involved in orthodox zen practice with so-called zen "teachers" (lolololo) only reinforced this illusion and the resultant feelings and (impersonal) thoughts of being separated and alienated from everyone and everything. Every person interacted with whether inter-personally had inadvertently reflected back to this "me" or fictitious me persona story that in fact "I" was separate. The "proof" of this apparently had been reinforced by these thoughts and feelings/emotions and in how what "others" were saying and doing was filtered and interpreted thru this already "confused" way of perceiving the world on a macro and a micro level. The world was the perfect mirror for my own sense of separation and absolutely all of the resulting feelings and self talking and limiting behaviors.
WE - ARE - LIMITLESS !
BECAUSE WE ARE NO THING.
WE ARE EXISTENCE IN ITS TOTALITY.
WE ARE PERFECTION WITH OUR EVERY DENT AND BUMP AND PERCEIVED IMPERFECTION. LOLOLOLOL
WE ARE NOT HERE.
The illusion of a separated self is the misidentification with "reality/truth/existence". This phenomenon begins at the age of approximately 2 years. This is commonly referred to as the terrible 2's. The irony is, how very accurate this begins and 99.999% of the humans alive Never move beyond this "perceived" sense, this illusion of separation. It remains intact with the insistence, ratification, reifying of this sense of separation commonly known as "ego" and "maya".
This is a globally confused condition that is consistently reinforced as we undergo the physical and psychological "maturation process". This reinforcement process is inadvertently compounded thru our social interactions with family as well as friendships formed in school. This "education" process is reified constantly thruout childhood into (so-called) adulthood due to the fact that everyone we are in contact with is living in the same confused, numbed down, myopic condition that is/was inherited (again inadvertently) from our parents, siblings, educational process, friendships, partners, activities and the media in all its guises. This confused state of believing we are separated is so deeply reinforced that it is or feels closer to us then our own name or skin or eye brows, as it were and reinforced again and again by literally every human being we come in contact with, what we read, what is seen in the media and then what is presumably felt as a solid and therefore valid "life experience". This is the reifying of the illusion of so-called egohood, narcissistic and self centered living and therefore maya.
This illusion of separation has caused in my own life a great deal of suffering, neurosis and misery. BUT ITS ALL BEEN INDUCED AND REINFORCED OVER AND OVER AGAIN BY THIS DREAM STATE ILLUSION BECAUSE I/WE (BELIEVE) I/WE ARE SEPARATE FROM EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING. I had lived this way for decades. Being involved in orthodox zen practice with so-called zen "teachers" (lolololo) only reinforced this illusion and the resultant feelings and (impersonal) thoughts of being separated and alienated from everyone and everything. Every person interacted with whether inter-personally had inadvertently reflected back to this "me" or fictitious me persona story that in fact "I" was separate. The "proof" of this apparently had been reinforced by these thoughts and feelings/emotions and in how what "others" were saying and doing was filtered and interpreted thru this already "confused" way of perceiving the world on a macro and a micro level. The world was the perfect mirror for my own sense of separation and absolutely all of the resulting feelings and self talking and limiting behaviors.
WE - ARE - LIMITLESS !
BECAUSE WE ARE NO THING.
WE ARE EXISTENCE IN ITS TOTALITY.
WE ARE PERFECTION WITH OUR EVERY DENT AND BUMP AND PERCEIVED IMPERFECTION. LOLOLOLOL
WE ARE NOT HERE.
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AND... WE ARE NEVER NOT HERE !
WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN COMPLETE.
WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN EMPTY OF A LIMITED SEPARATED SELF/EGO IDENTITY.
WE ARE NOTHING IN ALL LIFE'S BEAUTY AND PERFECTION.
WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN COMPLETE.
WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN EMPTY OF A LIMITED SEPARATED SELF/EGO IDENTITY.
WE ARE NOTHING IN ALL LIFE'S BEAUTY AND PERFECTION.
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3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.
How does it feel? Natural. FREEING! FREEDOM! FREEING! LOLOL HA!! What ever shows up in thought and emotion. No resistance. No identifier. No creator of thought or emotion. No owner. It feels and IS the natural unrestricted state. Limitless.
It feels lite. The allowing of any thought, feeling and emotion to arise and to move thru and then to pass away from this organism known as david LOLOLO!
It feels NATURAL. (Not "normal"). "Normal" is the societal world views of unquestioning and unexamining the illusion and resultant painful living of the beliefs of separation. Of competition. Of a "me" ownership. Of a doer and controller and a someone! LOLOLO!
The difference is the understanding that to live as I had for so many moments hours days weeks years decades in the "normal" or normally confused condition or state is the exact definition of insanity. It was living within beliefs and paradigms and stories and in the habitual confusion of what is only perceived as "normal" AND IT IS NOT!
What is ....This is whats felt and perceived (NOW) and in this moment, the NATURAL state and condition. No resistance and no boundary awareness. No illusion of a me, or a story of a david and if these things arise....SO WHAT ! LOLOLO!!!
How does it feel? Natural. FREEING! FREEDOM! FREEING! LOLOL HA!! What ever shows up in thought and emotion. No resistance. No identifier. No creator of thought or emotion. No owner. It feels and IS the natural unrestricted state. Limitless.
It feels lite. The allowing of any thought, feeling and emotion to arise and to move thru and then to pass away from this organism known as david LOLOLO!
It feels NATURAL. (Not "normal"). "Normal" is the societal world views of unquestioning and unexamining the illusion and resultant painful living of the beliefs of separation. Of competition. Of a "me" ownership. Of a doer and controller and a someone! LOLOLO!
The difference is the understanding that to live as I had for so many moments hours days weeks years decades in the "normal" or normally confused condition or state is the exact definition of insanity. It was living within beliefs and paradigms and stories and in the habitual confusion of what is only perceived as "normal" AND IT IS NOT!
What is ....This is whats felt and perceived (NOW) and in this moment, the NATURAL state and condition. No resistance and no boundary awareness. No illusion of a me, or a story of a david and if these things arise....SO WHAT ! LOLOLO!!!
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4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?
Easy answer: You asked me the other day, "So, how is that gate, has it been crashed?" And after we finished our dialog and I went out for my run/play time, when all of a sudden it became absolutely crystal clear what you were (really) asking me. I had just started out and was just present to the body moving and feeling the warm sun on the skin when BAM! There was the tipping point from your question, "has it been crashed?" Don't know! Nothing and no one to go thru anything or crash thru anything. To be anything. To become anything! LOLOLO
So as I was suddenly dumbstruck by the crystal clarity of this seeing, this perception, there was running and giggling and laughing. Must have been quite a site ! Shirtless because it was already in the low 70's here in West Hills and shoe-less because I run barefoot and then the laughing started ! All quite fun !
It was all seen with a crystal clarity and precision that was and is undeniable. Complete. Go thru something? Hahah....Hell no ! LOLO Whos going thru anything !! No one and nothing to pick and choose or decide to think be or do or go thru anything much less a "gate" which is just another wonderfully constructed thought to see it for what it is and for what this body brain organism is.
Easy. Lite. Limitless. Natural. No thought of an owner, doer, controlling being (in here). No resistance even to resistance, there is no resistance! And if such thinking arises, its perfect and perfectly ok because its all happening to no one. (More fun labels and stories lolo)
Easy answer: You asked me the other day, "So, how is that gate, has it been crashed?" And after we finished our dialog and I went out for my run/play time, when all of a sudden it became absolutely crystal clear what you were (really) asking me. I had just started out and was just present to the body moving and feeling the warm sun on the skin when BAM! There was the tipping point from your question, "has it been crashed?" Don't know! Nothing and no one to go thru anything or crash thru anything. To be anything. To become anything! LOLOLO
So as I was suddenly dumbstruck by the crystal clarity of this seeing, this perception, there was running and giggling and laughing. Must have been quite a site ! Shirtless because it was already in the low 70's here in West Hills and shoe-less because I run barefoot and then the laughing started ! All quite fun !
It was all seen with a crystal clarity and precision that was and is undeniable. Complete. Go thru something? Hahah....Hell no ! LOLO Whos going thru anything !! No one and nothing to pick and choose or decide to think be or do or go thru anything much less a "gate" which is just another wonderfully constructed thought to see it for what it is and for what this body brain organism is.
Easy. Lite. Limitless. Natural. No thought of an owner, doer, controlling being (in here). No resistance even to resistance, there is no resistance! And if such thinking arises, its perfect and perfectly ok because its all happening to no one. (More fun labels and stories lolo)
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5) Can you talk about decision, intention, free will, choice and control? What makes things happen? How does it work? What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.
Decisions..... This happens impersonally. Always have. Yet now....(funny way of saying it), when acute and precise and clear perception is recognized for what it is, in its naked and unencumbered state, what is seen is the lack of a neurotic, fear based someone needing to "self" protect and posture and hide and therefore live and respond to life in a distorted and stunted way. The natural way of living is more in tune and in harmony with the energies and flowing currents and intuitive whispers that arise that when seen and understood clearly contain not a hint of drama or egocentricity.
Intention..... This "idea" and label operates and flows in much the same way as decisions. By no one. When there is no one seen "here" as the doer, controller, creator and fearful me with stories and history, intention follows the natural unresistant flow of unrestricted currents and energies.
Free will .....Is exactly that - Free. And if it isn't so what! Being in the unrestricted present, life will present opportunities. Intuition will and does assist in living and being and doing. Is there truly a "free will"? Who knows! Who cares! LOLO
Just being naked and raw and seeing that which is in this moment and the next and the next is all there ever truly is. Stories and catch phrases no longer have any credibility. This is living the natural way of all life and of being. Being present. Being in the body. Being right here now. The way od doing and not doing becomes crystal clear.
No labels are necessary. No stories about spiritual nonsense or law of attraction nonsense or anything else matter. And if they arise thats ok too! Doesn't matter. Unrestricted by pretense and self image making.
Choice....Who is choosing what? lolo Who is doing anything? lolo Who is making a decision to choose this or that? lolo Its all just very easy natural and simple. Life is living life. Nothing can be chosen because there is only this moment and not even this moment. Just these fun and convenient labels for living and breathing and typing funny symbols on a computer screen going to no one from no one to nowhere lolo!
Control.....LOLOLO HUH?? LOLOOL Sorry! Don't have any! Life is simple. Life is. And life is being lived and breathing is happening in this body this impersonal unnamed organism. There is no control. no controller. Nothing to control. Nothing needs controlling. No one to control anything. There is only this! This moment and breathing is happening as words are being typed and thoughts are impersonally being thought and bubble up in awareness or they don't but NO ONE IS HERE CONTROLLING ANYTHING!
What makes things happen? ..... Great question! Hell if I know ! lolo Don't know! Don't care! Not important. Nothing to evaluate. Nothing to diagnose or define or dissect or understand or compartmentalize or create. There's nothing to create! Not a thing or an object or a thought or a concept or a me. Why? Because theres nothing that can be made, created, evaluated or defined or made to happen. There is no one to make anything happen.
THERE IS NO ONE TO MAKE ANYTHING HAPPEN. This is more time centric, self creation, dreamstate, confused, programmed "normal" reactions to what is pure and real and natural and raw. The concepts and otions of what can make anything happen is more programmed nonsense lololo!
How does it work? .... It doesn't! Nothing is working and making anything work lolo Ha!! No one is doing anything to make anything work. Its all happening exactly as life unfolds moment to moment without an owner doer story making doer named david something lololo
There is breathing happening by itself. There may be a thought or tow or ten happening by themselves but no thinker and thought creator. Nothing works because these are labels and concepts for life unfolding...Currents and energies. The ebb and flow of this mystery of existence. Its all a great big mystery. Amazing and perfect and painful and challenging and lovely and wonderful and still and yet, a great big giant mystery without an owner, doer, thinker!
What am I responsible for? ..... Simple and easy to see - There is no "I" to be responsible for anything. And yet, because there is nothing and no one separate from this body/brain/organism, there is this very same nothing and no one that is or can be separate from anything else, whether "near or "far away" (more fun labels lol) this is the most intrinsic connection that is natural and raw and abidingly obvious.
Example: The index finger of the right hand was cut open one morning when cutting up fruit to be eaten and immediately the left hand reached across to aid and hold the right hand and to assist in applying a bandage to the cut finger. This metaphor also applies to naturally and innocently and openly assisting so-called "others" when a perceived need arises. There is no thinking or evaluating or processing. It is automatic and happens as naturally as the left hand reaching across to give aid and support to an injured right hand.
Example: Several months ago a man on a motorcycle was slowly turning a corner at an intersection when I was out running. He was approximately 50 yards away as he turned his bike. I watched him slide sideways as his big heavy motorcycle went over onto him. Luckily he was in fact traveling at a slow rate of speed when this happened. Even tho I was barefoot as usual I ran over to offer my help very quickly. As quickly as I could at that moment. I arrived to his location and helped him raise his bike off of his own body and to pull it upright and to engage the kickstand. Then he was able to get off the pavement unencumbered. He has suffered minor injuries to his leg. I has also cut my right foot in the process. There wasn't any hesitation in rushing to his aid.
Example: A block from my home a hawk had apparently flown to close to a structure and had injured him/her self. I was driving and when I saw this injured animal I immediately pulled over and stopped and went immediately to this birds aid. Because it was a fairly quiet neighborhood street but had a lighter flow of traffic, I sat down approx 2 feet from this injured and I assumed frightened animal. I immediately called the veterinarian-animal rescue help line and explained what had apparently happened only moments earlier. I stayed with the hawk until they arrived. I stayed in order to keep the injured animal safe from cars and would be predictors like dogs and cats that may have been in any close proximity. The animal rescue people arrived approx 30 minutes later and gently put the bird in a large comfortable holding containment structure which then was placed inside the vehicle. He was taken to a vet and well cared for as I had been informed. I have photos of this even in my phone if interested.
Another example: Some time ago as I was assisting my mother in getting her to a market for groceries, I sat and waited for her in an area with chairs and tables. An elderly woman who I has sat down nearby asked me to help her fill out a check because she couldn't due to a recent illness and her hand wasn't steady enough to write legibly. I immediately complied with her request. I also asked her if she would like my mother and I to drive her back home and she declined because her ride was coming for her.
In all of these examples given here, the responses were immediate as well as unquestioned. There was no hesitation. Life just did as was needed in the immediacy of these three distinct situations (more label making and concepts!). There wasn't a notion of self/otherness. This body brain organism simply did what life presented. Nothing less. Nothing more. Without (as its seen now), any concept of good bad right wrong correct or any fear.
Life mirroring life. Life talking and responding to itself in a most clearly intimate way.
What is seen now, is that clearly, nothing happened. Nothing happened to anyone, to no one.
Life just is as it is as it unfolds. The sun shines and warms and nourishes all life. Rains fall and life is nourished. Or floods come and recede and there is regrowth and renewal. This body will go back to the earth and in turn will nourish life and other life forms and organisms.
Anything to add? .... Nothing to add. Nothing to omit or take away. All is seen and felt in its natural and unencumbered and unadorned state of completeness. Come what may - thoughts, feelings, emotions, doing - NOT doing, of every and any possible description. Nothing is happening. Nothing is being done. Nothing needs changing and nothing needs to be let go of!
Natural. Simple. Easy and obvious. Clear. Even confusion is seen clearly lolo.
Perfect.
Thank you.
Decisions..... This happens impersonally. Always have. Yet now....(funny way of saying it), when acute and precise and clear perception is recognized for what it is, in its naked and unencumbered state, what is seen is the lack of a neurotic, fear based someone needing to "self" protect and posture and hide and therefore live and respond to life in a distorted and stunted way. The natural way of living is more in tune and in harmony with the energies and flowing currents and intuitive whispers that arise that when seen and understood clearly contain not a hint of drama or egocentricity.
Intention..... This "idea" and label operates and flows in much the same way as decisions. By no one. When there is no one seen "here" as the doer, controller, creator and fearful me with stories and history, intention follows the natural unresistant flow of unrestricted currents and energies.
Free will .....Is exactly that - Free. And if it isn't so what! Being in the unrestricted present, life will present opportunities. Intuition will and does assist in living and being and doing. Is there truly a "free will"? Who knows! Who cares! LOLO
Just being naked and raw and seeing that which is in this moment and the next and the next is all there ever truly is. Stories and catch phrases no longer have any credibility. This is living the natural way of all life and of being. Being present. Being in the body. Being right here now. The way od doing and not doing becomes crystal clear.
No labels are necessary. No stories about spiritual nonsense or law of attraction nonsense or anything else matter. And if they arise thats ok too! Doesn't matter. Unrestricted by pretense and self image making.
Choice....Who is choosing what? lolo Who is doing anything? lolo Who is making a decision to choose this or that? lolo Its all just very easy natural and simple. Life is living life. Nothing can be chosen because there is only this moment and not even this moment. Just these fun and convenient labels for living and breathing and typing funny symbols on a computer screen going to no one from no one to nowhere lolo!
Control.....LOLOLO HUH?? LOLOOL Sorry! Don't have any! Life is simple. Life is. And life is being lived and breathing is happening in this body this impersonal unnamed organism. There is no control. no controller. Nothing to control. Nothing needs controlling. No one to control anything. There is only this! This moment and breathing is happening as words are being typed and thoughts are impersonally being thought and bubble up in awareness or they don't but NO ONE IS HERE CONTROLLING ANYTHING!
What makes things happen? ..... Great question! Hell if I know ! lolo Don't know! Don't care! Not important. Nothing to evaluate. Nothing to diagnose or define or dissect or understand or compartmentalize or create. There's nothing to create! Not a thing or an object or a thought or a concept or a me. Why? Because theres nothing that can be made, created, evaluated or defined or made to happen. There is no one to make anything happen.
THERE IS NO ONE TO MAKE ANYTHING HAPPEN. This is more time centric, self creation, dreamstate, confused, programmed "normal" reactions to what is pure and real and natural and raw. The concepts and otions of what can make anything happen is more programmed nonsense lololo!
How does it work? .... It doesn't! Nothing is working and making anything work lolo Ha!! No one is doing anything to make anything work. Its all happening exactly as life unfolds moment to moment without an owner doer story making doer named david something lololo
There is breathing happening by itself. There may be a thought or tow or ten happening by themselves but no thinker and thought creator. Nothing works because these are labels and concepts for life unfolding...Currents and energies. The ebb and flow of this mystery of existence. Its all a great big mystery. Amazing and perfect and painful and challenging and lovely and wonderful and still and yet, a great big giant mystery without an owner, doer, thinker!
What am I responsible for? ..... Simple and easy to see - There is no "I" to be responsible for anything. And yet, because there is nothing and no one separate from this body/brain/organism, there is this very same nothing and no one that is or can be separate from anything else, whether "near or "far away" (more fun labels lol) this is the most intrinsic connection that is natural and raw and abidingly obvious.
Example: The index finger of the right hand was cut open one morning when cutting up fruit to be eaten and immediately the left hand reached across to aid and hold the right hand and to assist in applying a bandage to the cut finger. This metaphor also applies to naturally and innocently and openly assisting so-called "others" when a perceived need arises. There is no thinking or evaluating or processing. It is automatic and happens as naturally as the left hand reaching across to give aid and support to an injured right hand.
Example: Several months ago a man on a motorcycle was slowly turning a corner at an intersection when I was out running. He was approximately 50 yards away as he turned his bike. I watched him slide sideways as his big heavy motorcycle went over onto him. Luckily he was in fact traveling at a slow rate of speed when this happened. Even tho I was barefoot as usual I ran over to offer my help very quickly. As quickly as I could at that moment. I arrived to his location and helped him raise his bike off of his own body and to pull it upright and to engage the kickstand. Then he was able to get off the pavement unencumbered. He has suffered minor injuries to his leg. I has also cut my right foot in the process. There wasn't any hesitation in rushing to his aid.
Example: A block from my home a hawk had apparently flown to close to a structure and had injured him/her self. I was driving and when I saw this injured animal I immediately pulled over and stopped and went immediately to this birds aid. Because it was a fairly quiet neighborhood street but had a lighter flow of traffic, I sat down approx 2 feet from this injured and I assumed frightened animal. I immediately called the veterinarian-animal rescue help line and explained what had apparently happened only moments earlier. I stayed with the hawk until they arrived. I stayed in order to keep the injured animal safe from cars and would be predictors like dogs and cats that may have been in any close proximity. The animal rescue people arrived approx 30 minutes later and gently put the bird in a large comfortable holding containment structure which then was placed inside the vehicle. He was taken to a vet and well cared for as I had been informed. I have photos of this even in my phone if interested.
Another example: Some time ago as I was assisting my mother in getting her to a market for groceries, I sat and waited for her in an area with chairs and tables. An elderly woman who I has sat down nearby asked me to help her fill out a check because she couldn't due to a recent illness and her hand wasn't steady enough to write legibly. I immediately complied with her request. I also asked her if she would like my mother and I to drive her back home and she declined because her ride was coming for her.
In all of these examples given here, the responses were immediate as well as unquestioned. There was no hesitation. Life just did as was needed in the immediacy of these three distinct situations (more label making and concepts!). There wasn't a notion of self/otherness. This body brain organism simply did what life presented. Nothing less. Nothing more. Without (as its seen now), any concept of good bad right wrong correct or any fear.
Life mirroring life. Life talking and responding to itself in a most clearly intimate way.
What is seen now, is that clearly, nothing happened. Nothing happened to anyone, to no one.
Life just is as it is as it unfolds. The sun shines and warms and nourishes all life. Rains fall and life is nourished. Or floods come and recede and there is regrowth and renewal. This body will go back to the earth and in turn will nourish life and other life forms and organisms.
Anything to add? .... Nothing to add. Nothing to omit or take away. All is seen and felt in its natural and unencumbered and unadorned state of completeness. Come what may - thoughts, feelings, emotions, doing - NOT doing, of every and any possible description. Nothing is happening. Nothing is being done. Nothing needs changing and nothing needs to be let go of!
Natural. Simple. Easy and obvious. Clear. Even confusion is seen clearly lolo.
Perfect.
Thank you.
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Anything to add? .... continued..... No. Nothing to add. What is seen is how all of these questions, all questions here, all get immediately directly back to the one thing: There is no "I". There is no david. There never was and never will be a david or anyone or anything else. This is the empirical truth and only truth of existence and of consciousness because consciousness is all. The play of consciousness, of life. What could possible be added? Nothing!There is nothing to add because nothing already is and nothing can be added.
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Every question is the exact same one and only question with the one and only truthful and directly obvious answer. This one question is asked with different words. There is in truth only one answer yet different words and phrases can be used to illustrate this one and only truth. There is no "I". Period. End of story. End of all stories and yet stories can continue and thats also just what is, without an owner, doer, creator. There is only existence as it is and that is all.
Also what is seen "here" over the past several days is how thought production and the problematical compulsively neurotic "need" to problem solve life has wound down. There is a quietness, stillness, calm. This isn't manufactured or made or created. It is seen to have always been present but simply unnoticed due to so much mental chattering and drama and noise blaring on endlessly (labels! lolo). All of that seems to have abated. Yet a naturalness and an ebb and flowing of energies.
This calm quiet no-thinking or lack of chattering noise is what is here. Thinking happens and yet it doesn't. Just paying attention. Seeing, hearing, sensing, feeling, smelling, tasting - being.
Being.
Limitless.
Free.
Always has been.
It is - we are.
Also what is seen "here" over the past several days is how thought production and the problematical compulsively neurotic "need" to problem solve life has wound down. There is a quietness, stillness, calm. This isn't manufactured or made or created. It is seen to have always been present but simply unnoticed due to so much mental chattering and drama and noise blaring on endlessly (labels! lolo). All of that seems to have abated. Yet a naturalness and an ebb and flowing of energies.
This calm quiet no-thinking or lack of chattering noise is what is here. Thinking happens and yet it doesn't. Just paying attention. Seeing, hearing, sensing, feeling, smelling, tasting - being.
Being.
Limitless.
Free.
Always has been.
It is - we are.
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Awesome, David! LOLOLOL
WELCOME HOME.
I will invite you to groups on facebook.
Much love
WELCOME HOME.
I will invite you to groups on facebook.
Much love
See for yourself.
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Hello Ilona,
Thank you.
When I was out on my running playing break after I posted my last response to your questions, suddenly what was seen was that the 3 examples I had given were but the three chosen to be written about from the examples that are continuously happening in every moment everyplace, with every breath and everyplace these eyes look upon, everything that is heard and all that is felt. The examples are in every moment because all there is, is this empty no-thingness that is existence. The nonseparation with everything. The wordless conceptless connectedness with all of life exactly as it all is. Everything, every plant every animal every human animal. There is nothing and therefore nothing to possibly be separated from.
Yes, thank you.
This is home. The placeless place we have all been since the beginning of existence. To settle down where there is no such place to settle down in.
Thank you.
When I was out on my running playing break after I posted my last response to your questions, suddenly what was seen was that the 3 examples I had given were but the three chosen to be written about from the examples that are continuously happening in every moment everyplace, with every breath and everyplace these eyes look upon, everything that is heard and all that is felt. The examples are in every moment because all there is, is this empty no-thingness that is existence. The nonseparation with everything. The wordless conceptless connectedness with all of life exactly as it all is. Everything, every plant every animal every human animal. There is nothing and therefore nothing to possibly be separated from.
Yes, thank you.
This is home. The placeless place we have all been since the beginning of existence. To settle down where there is no such place to settle down in.
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