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[jad437]

LOL of course! The description tries to know (mind, me, self, thoughts) but it will never know 'me' or this. Or god, source whatever we call it. All there is is knowing lmao hahahaha. There is knowing, experiencing knowing everything and nothing and in this knowing appears description trying to know itself hahahahaha

[Josephkoudelka]

:) and is there's self that controls this?


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[jad437]

LOL what a funny question there's no free will because it's all just happening freely. An appearance of control but none whatsoever. Neuroscience and quantum physics even show this. Omg! It's so simple no wonder the mind overlooks it!

[Josephkoudelka]

Yes! :) In DE is there neuroscience or quantum physics?


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[jad437]

No!!! There are no reference points!

[Josephkoudelka]

Are there any other candidates that could possibly contain this DE or knowing presence?


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[jad437]

No...nothing just this DE...any speculation would be a reference to thought..

It's funny because there's an understanding that all seeking is an attempt of the mind to get out of its DE into a better moment. That moment never arrives but it "appears" to arrive through pleasure...but that comes and goes...so the mind is always trying to hold on to something...you've basically just annihilated my mind because it has nothing to hold on to. It keeps trying to look forward to something, but there's an understanding that that seeking is completely futile.

This is it! This DE is as good as it gets - and what a miracle it is.

[Josephkoudelka]

This is great! one more step! :)

That moment never arrives but it "appears" to arrive through pleasure...but that comes and goes...so the mind is always trying to hold on to something.

Can the mind do anything in DE? Can one thought know another thought? is there any locus that drives this in DE?

It keeps trying to look forward to something, but there's an understanding that that seeking is completely futile.

Same as above... and is any effort required for DE?

[jad437]

Can the mind do anything in DE? Can one thought know another thought? is there any locus that drives this in DE?



Same as above... and is any effort required for DE?

Confused about that first question. The mind can only describe nothing more...it does so automatically. Like...as if it had a function or job to just do one thing..repeating it over and over again..describing the car, chair, table...non-stop.

A thought is just describing another thought haha it's not knowing it. I'm not entirely sure what you mean by locus that drives...there seems to be an energy behind the thought ( believing in a separate self). That energy seems to disappear when the self is seen through?


No effort required for DE! It's just happening.

[Josephkoudelka]

By locus, does DE have a location? Is there inside or outside, internal external in "It's just happening." ?

[jad437]

No, there isn't even such a thing as inside/ outside in DE. I can't describe " this". It can only be experience itself to know.

[Josephkoudelka]

Excellent! So who knows DE?

[jad437]

Nothing :) hahahahaha

[jad437]

Or no one rather...could say god, or source..but even then that seems like saying there is an entity there...It's just nothingness experiencing itself through "apparent" form.

[Josephkoudelka]

hahaha! Thank you for sticking with this. LOL! ok.

Relax into This. Thank you Julian. :)

At your leisure, please respond to the following questions:

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there
ever?
2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from
your own experience. Describe it fully as you seeit now.
3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue?
Please report from the past few days.
4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?
5) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control. What makes things happen? How
does it work? What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.
6) Anything to add?