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Without referring to thought or dipping into trances...
Hard to do. Continually stepping back from/dropping language and explanation and questioning. Naked Presence in direct Experience occurs briefly, punctuated by distraction and sometimes by absorption. But those are experience also. No self exists behind any experiences: cognitive nakedness, distraction, or infused contemplation.
no it's not hard to do because there is nothing to do. it's really important to look in to the very 'process' of this. it seems you are still seeing this as some "process of awakening". it's really important to look at if there is anything at all that can be awakened. this is the "I" ... the self, and the seeker
just put your attention on that
there is no one there that can be awakened
is experience personal at all? and if so in what ways?
It's a paradox: one constantly and reflexively seeks one's inherent being as if it would suddenly be revealed and thus resolve the hollow empty hunger that leads to seeking in the first place. That wild goose chase must be responsible for most of the spiritual discomfort and pain that haunts the world.
the paradox is only thought stuff
the seductive nature of thought to draw one in to the story should be looked at closely. there is always an "I" in that seductive story, and when we look at reality, we can NEVER find an "I"
paradox for who? look closely at the belief in "I" at the cornerstone of all of this
But no matter how deeply one goes, how intensively one penetrates, it's just more experience.
there is no one that can go deeply :) that's the whole point of this seeing
there is no one that can penetrate anything. only thought speaks of an individual seeking awakening, those are all thought-stories.
yes... it's always and forever experience. impersonal, alive, boundless
but does that experience belong to an individual???
I'm trying to keep "naked looking" from being morphed into seeking, the predatory hunt for enlightenment as if it were a great Prize, a Reward for supreme effort.
don't try
notice if there is anyone that could try
it's obvious that that type of seeking will happen with you. it's a part of how you have approached spirituality.
just notice it...
is there a self or individual there apart from thought?
is there a seeker? or just seeking?
seeking for what? where? why? will you ever find the truth anywhere but right here in this moment?
> I'm not 100% sure what "Naked looking" is or is like. Is it an utterly simple way of encountering direct Experience? Is it shikantaza, Soto "just sitting," or something like those. (I feel sure it should not be regarded as a method or technique or recipe for enlightenment, but can it be clarified? -- since it is an orientation you suggest that I utilize.)
it's just what is arising
it's the easiest and most natural thing to notice
just what is going on
don't see it as some big thing... a technique, a practice, a treasured state/skill
the faculty of attention is the simplest one because it's always happening
watch thoughts come and go
is there a self or "I" there before thoughts?
does individuality exist anywhere in any form?
> You alluded to the "I am That" trap: the advaita fallacy -- identifying with "That" and projecting/idealizing personal self into some sort of cosmic consciousness. (Question: could Ramana Maharshi, Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj, et al have been somewhat (benignly) deluded or short of full understanding? Certainly many of the internet neo-advaitists seem fixated on a Super Self (sometimes it would seem foolishly or toxically) -- maybe they are just misunderstanding Ramana and others like him. It's ironic that in Exodus, Moses' burning-bush Jehovah calls himself "I Am that I Am." That vain, jealous and bloodthirsty Deity is definitely NOT enlightened :)
All of this is irrelevant. Concepts about the absolute nature of reality are pointless, because once you see through "I", all of this becomes clearer, and you will start to see this for yourself. The answers are all right there. You have to Look though. That is why a guide is important ;) I am guiding you now to put all of your focus on this. Forget everything you know about reality. challenge the very foundation of it. that you are an individual.
Some of your messages during Skype have alluded to sort of a universal self-lessness (not your exact words, perhaps a misstatement due to lack of a transcript), an infinite or omnipresent non-inherency ("Emptiness" as G. Buddha understood it) that is more than personal self-lessness (there's an oxymoron perhaps). I wonder if that is Reality and bridges the distinction between No-self and "Great Self" (by which I do not intend a theistic or deistic notion).
:) there can not be a personal self-lessness. that assumes that there is an individual... a person ;)
where is this individuality?
focusing and seeing the lack of individuality in experience is really the most important thing.
if you were to drop all assumptions that you have about everything
is there any individuality that exists?
Please don't think I am trying to start a philosophical discussion. I just think that by putting to rest some cognitive/conceptual puzzles, I can be more non-conceptual.
It's okay... do you have control over what you think? how conceptual or non-conceptual you are?
is there an "I" that can choose and control such thinking and behavior?
good hearing from you,
please investigate these pointers and get back to me.
Lots of Love my friend.